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Old Mar 16, 2005 | 07:33 PM
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painting my own car for dummies

I had my car painted by some idiots who did not mix the paint the way I said. This happened about a year ago and now the paint is cracked like old lead paint. Great now I have to wet sand the car past that heavy layer. I want to try and paint this car my self. Im good with spraying. I did some in High School. But I did not know the equipment I was using.

I have powerful air cleaner in my garage thats get all dust out, so that wont be an issue. I have a air compressor that is powreful enough for spraying. But I dont have a mask and spray gun. Can someone here tell me what kind of mask to use with automotive spray painting. What type of spray gun is best. I heard of gravity fed guns, should I be using one of these for my car?

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Derek

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Old Mar 17, 2005 | 09:30 AM
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A gravity fed HVLP (High Volume Low Pressure) gun is a must. If you are not planning on doing this alot then don't worry about spending a ton of money on one. Obviously the more expensive the gun the better the quality it is but there is a happy medium where price starts getting rediculous. I paint all the time so I choose to have one of these more expensive guns because the quality of the spray pattern and atomizing of the paint is better. DeVillbis and several other companies offer top end and lower end guns. You should go to a paint store in your area and talk to those guys. Chances are they even sell them. Do some research on gun types and pay attention to nozzle tips and sizes. They make different sizes for different types of paint, primer, clears, and sealers. A 1.3mm should be a good all around tip for you to do anything you want. As for the mask, any parts store usually carries masks. They will probably run you $15-$40. If you are wearing the respirator properly and can smell paint fumes through it, it is not working or it is the wrong type. Also you should get one of those paint suits. They keep fuzz and lint off what you are painting. Be sure when you sand, block it really good to keep the body straight. You don't want a bunch of waves in it. If you have anymore questions, i'll be glad to help. You can pm me or e-mail me at camaro4lifez28@hotmail.com
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Re: painting my own car for dummies

kind of jacking the thread.. but didn't feel like starting a new one exactly.. since it doesn't deal with my camaro.. haha

anywho> i'm repainting my motorcycle.. and have no idea how much paint to buy.

basecoat/urethane reducer wise, how much should i get??

a pint of each? 8 oz enough??
i'm horrible with even thinking about how much paint that would be...

didn't do so well in chemistry lab either for that reason

haha
Old Mar 22, 2005 | 01:07 PM
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Re: painting my own car for dummies

Originally Posted by bellcamaro
kind of jacking the thread.. but didn't feel like starting a new one exactly.. since it doesn't deal with my camaro.. haha

anywho> i'm repainting my motorcycle.. and have no idea how much paint to buy.

basecoat/urethane reducer wise, how much should i get??

a pint of each? 8 oz enough??
i'm horrible with even thinking about how much paint that would be...

didn't do so well in chemistry lab either for that reason

haha
Depends on what kind of paint you use. Some brands use a 1:1 mixing ratio with reducer. Some use a 2:1. If you are repainting it the same color, or close to the same color, it won't take as much to cover it. 1 pint would be more than enough. A 1:1 mix paint would give you 2 pints sprayable and a 2:1 would give you 1 1/2 pints. If you want a solid clear to go over it, get a a quart and put 1 very light coat and two wet coats.
Old Mar 25, 2005 | 11:18 PM
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Re: painting my own car for dummies

Im interested in painting my car and im pretty much the same situation. I have to repaint rear bumper and 1/4 panel. Is a hvlp really a must? I can get a really good deal on a paint gun that is supposed to be a pretty good siphon fed, retails for 80. I forgot the model, wil lfind out for ya guys, thats a picture of it. Should i get it or keep lookin?

Coleman powermate Commercial Spray Gun something?
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...GUY/ok1433.jpg

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Old Mar 29, 2005 | 08:03 AM
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there's nothing wrong with a siphon fed gun. In fact, a lot of professionals use them. I prefer a HVLP myself. If you are not planning on using it all the time, just get one that will get the job done this one time. If you are planning on using it often, get a quality HVLP gun. Beware though, some are upwards of a thousand dollars and more.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 01:01 PM
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Lowes has a 3M respirator that is approved for auto painting. Thats where I bought mine for my custom autopainting class. It comes complete with filter, holder and 2 prefilters. Its around $29 plus tax. Make sure you use the correct mask. Make sure that you use a big enough compressor so that flow of the paint is constant.
Old Apr 5, 2005 | 02:06 PM
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this is true. The clear coat has a hardener in it that will crystalize your lungs. Don't skimp on a good respirator
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 12:42 AM
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Re: painting my own car for dummies

Im sure im going get a respirator that is fed with fresh air from out side. I want to make sure I have no problems with any health issues.

I was looking at this Turbine Paint Spray System that warms the air before when painting. Here is the link to the system Im looking at.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...541080739&rd=1

Is this good?

It may cost a pretty penny but me and a friend will be splitting it and then selling it after we finish.
Old Apr 11, 2005 | 08:11 AM
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don't waste you money. They claim that warming the air eliminates runs and sags. Complete crap. There is only one way to eliminate runs and sags, not to put too much paint or clear in one place. The warm air will only cause you to have dry spray. That is where the paint is dry before it hits the car. It will be very rough. All you need is a compressor, a good gun, and a little bit of practice and you will have a nice paint job.
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