3 bolt ons and Im in the 11s for under $700

Guys,
Take a look at my sig and tell me if my ETs and mphs sound right to you.My car still has the 2.73 gears stock.I cut a 1.69 60' and run a 7.69 in the 1/8th.My car only has a dynomouth exhaust , K&N whisper lid and the infamous spray that I have spent less than $700 bucks for everything.

They told me that I could not run again without a helmet and roll cage at the local track.I really got the swelled head when they told me not to come back without those items :D

Let me know what you think.



Ps...I was on street tires ;)

If you did that, congratulations.

1.69 on Street tires... Hmmmmm. Wow. I was only cutting 1.7's with drag radials.

high 11's and 116-119 generally go hand in hand from what I generally see at the track. A friend of mine is running 11.7's in a Z06 Corvette at 118 (with onlu a filter, shifter, and drag radials), however his 60 foot times are 1.7's and his 1/8 mph is over 90.....

What you are really saying is that your car is as quick as mine and mph's better at full weight with street tires... Since I have not seen another car come close to that level of performance with those few little mods, and I race two tracks every week and have done so for the past five years...

With calling BS I will comment that I have never seen performance like that out of a car modified as yours, face to face. I'm sure I can find stories on the internet, but I have never seen it on street tires with that type of sixty foot time.

Track prep is everything, I know of some people thats on this board that's cutting 1.7's on street tires.

What type of tire do you have? F1's ?

Won't happen on my track (Track prep that is)

As for the times seems about right with the shot you are using.
Hopefully you are not spraying through shifts, or one day no more shifty. :D

Congrat's on the run.

Raptor and Hub,

Guys Im sitting here reading this and cant really understand why you call BS on me?
First off I am a well respected member here at CZ28 and would not just post stories for the hell of it.
I run 8.50s on motor and like you hub, I frequent the drag strip (not as much as you) twice per month.I am spraying the equivelant of 150 RWHP through my motor with 2.73 gears!
This is the prime reason I dont spin coming out of the hole.
Yes Im spraying through the shifts and see some guys picking up 1 second on 125 FWHP shot of spray.So why would it be hard to believe if I sprayed 150 to the wheels to pick up a little over a second?
Now if I had 3.73 gears then I would probably be spinning through the 60' on the street tires, but the key word here is 2.73 highway gears.
Hub is too far away to check out my ride , but Raptor I have talked to you many times and am good friends with Indy Chris who knows I wouldnt BS you fellas.Raptor , we are tennatively (sp?) planning to run next wed night at Darlington if you want to come on out and check out the car.I have many people on this site that will vouch for my integrity... Scott9050, Mike92LX, IndyChris and most of the guys in the SE section.
I did not write this to start a flame fest or anything so I respect your oppinions , Im just trying to explain.
Take care.
Mike
www.mikie.cz28.com

Auto or M6?

The 1.6 short times are hard to digest, but not totally out of the question.

With a 2.73 gear, it has to be an auto unless he swapped rear ends with one out of an auto car.

Its an auto 4L60E with 2.73 gears.
I have only sprayed my car with this shot 4 times and my worst 60' is a 1.83.
Later
Mike

Nice times. What kind of tires are you running exactly? ET Streets can be considered street tires. They are D.O.T. approved. :)

I should be at Darlington Wednesday.

Derrick,

They are the plain old factory Goodyears ;)

I dont want people to get me wrong though,Its not like I pull low 1.6s all night long.Just that one time I hit a 1.69.
Thanks for the props bro ;)


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Zeeya,

Its still up in the air if were gonna make the long trip or not.
If there is a chance of rain then Im out , but if its fair then we may go.Ive got a few buds begging me to wait til thurs and go to Mooresvilles 1/8th mile track just above Charlotte.
I wont know for sure until Tuesday afternoon.

Later
Mike

Hey Mikie,
There is no question that you can pick up over a second with the 125 shot. I do agree though that pulling a 1.69 on the stock goodyears is a little amaizing. Hell, the best I have produced is a 1.61 and that was on ET Drags while pulling the left front about an inch. If you did manage it that would be the best 60' ever reported on street tires by more that a few tenths.

1.6x 60' on street tires..... the best ive personally seen an auto with street tires do was 1.9x. and you shaved 3/10ths off of that?!?! the best i could manage on drag radials was a 1.84!
veery hard to believe, bro.
btw... a 150 shot doesnt mean 150 extra hp to the back wheels.
jeremy

I have pulled low 1.8 60' times on regular BFGs and have seen a 6 speed pull off a 1.68 on bald GSCs so I think it is believable. Just my .02 cents though.

Good lord, give him a break. It all depends on track prep guys. Haven't you ever seen MM&FF or GMHTP run mid 1.6 60s on GSCs when they have the track prepped to hell and back? He doesn't sound like hes making this stuff up, and I have seen an M6 LS1 with a lid and catback run 11.86 @ 121 on Nittos with a 125 shot. The cars LOVE nitrous. The guy that ran 11.8s sold his kit to another guy with an auto, hes on here as KamaroLs1, and he straight up walked a mustang that is very close to 11.8s. Then again, it was a highway roll-on from 40, but he still waxed him tho. Most of the cam/bolt-on LT1 crowd here would get walked by a stock Ls1 with gas. Its life. When you have heads that flow, what, 50 cfm better @ 500 lift, it happens. But guess what? Put a set of heads that flow 260+ on an LT1 and spray it. Same times or better. Just the way it is.

Originally posted by Jerm93z28

btw... a 150 shot doesnt mean 150 extra hp to the back wheels.
jeremy

Jeremy. In my post you will notice it says rwhp.You will also notice it in my signature.

I understand what 150 shot means.I dyno test everything and with the spray the car is putting down 148 avg rwhp more than on motor.

I am 32 years old and have sprayed nitrous to 6 vehicles that I have owned and the LS1 seems to like it more than the others.
We took the tech II and recorded the dyno sessions and my runs at the track and it is saying that my millivolts are ok.

Thanks to all of you guys that back me, because if there is one thing im not ...its a liar.

I have a few friends here in Charlotte that have achieved low 1.7s and have even run 7.50s in the 1/8th mile with heads/cam package also on street tires (A-4)

Later
Mike

I definitely believe it:cool: . I've seen a few low 1.7 60's on street tires, so a 1.69 is definitely possible.

No offence taken. It is just that I have not come close to seeing that type of 60' performance on street tires.

I will admit however that this week end I did something unusual in the 60 foot area... I found a new way to lose. It is called "running the 1/4 mile with the "e" brake on.

Yup. I turned a 1.69 sixty foot time with the emergency brake on. My opponent passed me by 2/3 track. I thought I threw a plug wire or something.

LOL Hub,

I have done near the same thing.I waited in the staging lanes for nearly one hour a few years back.Got to the lights and stalled it up (not wanting to purge to show I had nitrous) and what do I do?
When I took off I squeezed the purge instead of the go-go button.OMG it was funny,for the first 15 ft I was purging :D
I was so humiliated I almost just kept going out the exit.

Later
;)

Mikie aint lyin guys...
Nice runs BTW Mike... I'm prollt gonna put eh spray on my ride this winter...

Now that would be a sight to see.

LMAO

Purging while going down the track :eek:
I bet that never happens again....

Yeah, Ive got the video , but as we speak it is bieng burned :D
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Z97LT1,
Sweet man,
If you need any help on the install just yell.I know it would be a long drive from Raleigh(3.5 hrs) , but we could do it on a saturday if you wanted.


Later bro,

Mike

Yea, a local guy was knocking 1.8 seconds off his et in a 98 TA A4 w/2.73s on street radials and a 175 dry shot. What pill are you using? You must be spraying close to 200 to get 148 at the rear wheels. Do you have any delay, or are you spraying off the line? Ive heard of 60' times close to yours, but at a track prepped for a national event.

Jack,
Im just using the old fashioned momentary pushbutton and spraying about 5 feet out once the tires get moving.
Im spraying the single sloenoid dry kit that has a number 73 jet in it.

Talk to you later
Mike

:bow: Why can't my car do that!?! :bow:

I wished I could have been there to see it!!!

:p
Brad

Brad,
We were gonna try Mooresville tomorrow night , but if the rain keeps up then we may try for next thurs...you up for it?

You spray the big shot like me and you will do the same thing :)

Later
Mike

Damn, where'd I put my :bs: flag. ;) Just kidding with you Mikie. I didn't see the run but I have known Mikie for a long time and he doesn't lie about his car or the performance of it. I would say Mikie, don't get used to cutting 1.6s all the time, especially after I flatten your tires when we race.;)

Originally posted by Mikie
Brad,
We were gonna try Mooresville tomorrow night , but if the rain keeps up then we may try for next thurs...you up for it?

You spray the big shot like me and you will do the same thing :)

Later
Mike

Yeah sure!!! E-mail me tomorrow sometime and let me know if you are still going.

I spray a big shot like you I won't have a car that runs the next day. :cry: :D

It won't be long!!! It's almost rebuild time!!! ;)

:p
Brad

let's see...an A4 with 2:73's spraying a 150 dry shot after about 5 feet to 60ft a HIGH 1.6 ?

Totally believable! and i've seen people cut even lower 60ft times on regular radials

Track prep and bottle a car with 2:73's almost right outta the hole with a dry shot (which hits alot lighter than if it were a wet shot) i don't see why it's so hard to believe...just cuz the rest of you can't do doesn't mean it can't be done..:rolleyes:

Originally posted by badass_2000_z28
let's see...an A4 with 2:73's spraying a 150 dry shot after about 5 feet to 60ft a HIGH 1.6 ?

Totally believable! and i've seen people cut even lower 60ft times on regular radials

Track prep and bottle a car with 2:73's almost right outta the hole with a dry shot (which hits alot lighter than if it were a wet shot) i don't see why it's so hard to believe...just cuz the rest of you can't do doesn't mean it can't be done..:rolleyes:

I am not saying Mikie is a liar and he has people to back him up but don't try to make it out like we are nuts for doubting a 1.6 on street radials. I have stood on some of the best prepped tracks in the world and know the world of difference between a "national event" prep and the normal Sunday prep. Hell, the difference between the two preps on the same track will make you think you are in bizzaro world. The fact of the matter is most tracks don't have the equipment or won't spend the time/money to prep the track that well for street cars and I can tell you that no street tires ever see a track prepped by the Safety Safari.

Secondly, to accelerate a 3500 lb. car with the low torque multiplication of 2.73's and minimal traction of Goodyear radials to a high 1.6 60' is pushing the envelop well past it limits.

Third, we all know that N2O only works at WOT. We also know to get a street radial to put down any decent 60' times you need to softly roll in to the throttle even on a stock motor. Add the extra 150 HP when you hit WOT, even if it is a "soft" dry shot, does not give much room left to reduce your time.

Bottom line is I would like some info on these cars that have cut even lower 60' times, as well as, the tracks they ran at.

Again, not flaming you Mikie I am just skeptical about these cars since the lowest 60' I have ever seen reported on street tires is a high 1.8.

Red,
No problem bro, I know your not calling me a liar.Im actually glad I posted this now because It has turned into a good thread for others to chime in with thier 60' experiences or witnesses.
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Thanks to all who have replied, but please lets not throw jabs at each other.We are all F-bod bretheren and should stick together.

If anyone else reads this and has experienced sub 1.8 60's on regular street tires please chime in with your oppinions or comments. ;)

Later
Mike

i know an old Iroc that cut a 1.5 60ft on radials on the bottle with a 2400 stall :bow:

wtf..... ok i guess ill just swap over to an auto and 2.73's w/ stock t/c, and street tires and a 150 shot so i can go faster.....
i dont guess ill need my lower control arms either. guess ill sell those too.
jeremy

Im runnin 92 mph in the 1/8th so yes if you switched to an auto you would go faster :D

Jus pokin at ya Jerm ;)


Later
Mike

Originally posted by Mikie
Im runnin 92 mph in the 1/8th so yes if you switched to an auto you would go faster :D

Jus pokin at ya Jerm ;)


Later
Mike

lol, it just sucks to see someone spend so much less time, money, and effort to go alot faster than me!!!
my car will be an LS1 in a couple of months, and so far i have a TR 230/224 111 cam for it, and im going to re-ring it and run arp rod bolts and maybe some main studs.... and prolly a little giggle gas. got any other advise?
anyways, u da man!
jeremy

Nope...I got no advice for someone doing almost 90mph Naturally aspirated :)
Yours is all muscle. :bow:


Hey , since you are down in SC I may yell at you before we head down to Darlington again.Maybe we could hook up and terrorize the Mustangs down at the 1/4 mile.

I could see low 1.7 to high 1.6 60's on street tires...... I run consistent 1.82 60's with my 3.73 gears on BFG Comp TA's. I know with more power I could easily get it into the 1.7's. But I don't think that once I get a high stall I will see these #'s unless I get ET Streets........ Track prep is key.......... & weather.:)

Originally posted by Mikie
Nope...I got no advice for someone doing almost 90mph Naturally aspirated :)
Yours is all muscle. :bow:


Hey , since you are down in SC I may yell at you before we head down to Darlington again.Maybe we could hook up and terrorize the Mustangs down at the 1/4 mile.

I think you might be suprised. I mean I cut a 1.707 on BFG P245/16/50's Drag radials and RWHP 324. The tires do make a big difference,
woops I meant to quote Smokin...Fred

WTG Mike :bow: That is an awsome time slip there. I have never seen a 1.6x 60' time from a car with street tires and I wish I could have seen yours run. With just spending $1000 on rebuilding our 355, using the same internal parts from our other 355 (pistons, rods, crank, cam, heads) and our PG, I am starting to feel sick :barf: . I could have built our new motor for less and just added NOS :D.

Seriously, with racing every weekend we are trying for consistancy and not trying to go fast as possible with our combo. With 10" wide slicks we pull 1.59 - 1.58 60' times and currently ran 11.26@118.10 last Saturday.

If you get any better times let us hear about it, I would like to know.

I believe you mikie! I don't think we've met, but I would definitely love to see you run. The Rock is having a chevy show of it's own the 9-10 of Nov I be there hope to see you there.

Randy

Thanks Wayne,Randy and to everyone else that has replied.
Randy,
I have never met ya , but have heard Indy Chris talk about you and have heard about your car.
Hopefully we can hook up at the Rock or maybe even Darlington.

Later bro ;)
Mike

Sweet times.Was this run at Darlington?I live in Charleston and have a girlfriend in Florence so that's only about 1 1/2 hours from me.Is the track prep there that good?Because the local 1/8 prep sucks at Cooper River!
Kevin

Originally posted by tnthub
What you are really saying is that your car is as quick as mine and mph's better at full weight with street tires...


Your car seems to trap very low for the mods. What elevation do you run at?


Ryan

:bs: lol, i just had to. Have fun!

Nikkev,

Yeah it was at Darlington.The track is awesome and very sticky IMHO.I used to frequent the ROCK , but after sliding sideways across the 60' mark time after time I finally stopped going there.
I will let you know when we plan to head down that way and maybe even see you down there.

As for the comment of BS from TA...
I will Video the next run and zoom in on the tires for all the disbelievers.

Later
Mike

Nice job. very hard to do, but hey anything can happen.

I have been trapping low due to keeping my exhaust corked up to try and keep the car above the 12.00 Dial cutoff for ET Street at our local track. It paid off this last season ( http://www.newenglanddragway.com )

Next season the exhaust will be opened up.

You guys have some very quick cars for the level of modification.

New England Dragway is only a few hundred feet above sea level.

hey peeps mikie is straight up on the times has my old mass air flow and lid and he knows how to drive his car,
jim

I still think it's either funny or just insane. Been racing fbodies since '92, and have yet to click off anything better than a 1.92 on GSC's or any other regular radial tire. In fact, have mustered a best 60' of 1.92 with BFG Drag Radials on a 3.42-geared '95Z28. Now I can see where track prep can play an integral role here, but being on several different tracks, ie: Memphis Motorsports Park, Carlsbad Raceway in SoCal, Gateway Int'l in St. Louis, E-Town NJ, I just haven't been able to hook up anywhere near that, or even in the same ballpark as a 1.6-1.8 anything. Maybe with the line lock I can change that, but I still doubt I see that big of improvement.

i have cut a 1.67 on gsc a couple of times it can be done and i am driving a 6 speed with 4:10's but every thing was perfect at the track.
jim

man i gotta start going to that track. must be where those bolton LS1's are trapping 119. ;) ;)
jeremy

Mikie, Now that's good driving, it's totally believable when you got all things going right for you. I run Mickey Thompson Sportsman Pro's and cut 1.61 sixty foots all the time and got a best of 1.585 last week. Now they are not a radial tire but there not slicks either, nice tread pattern and I drive on them to and from the track. Your Cool bro! :cool:

Thanks guys,

Update:

Well recently I lowered the car 1.75 inches and thought that it wouldnt bother my weight transfer that bad,boy was I wrong.
I have not been to the track in a few weeks ,but the last time I went I could only muster a 2.00 60' spinning madly through the trac bite.I did however manage to get a new mph of 94.5 ,but the best et was a 8.00 which sucks.Well I guess nows a good time to invest in the drag launch suspension.

Talk to you later.

I will have to give you some props on that... I have a couple of friends that have LS1 cars that have 3200 converters, 3:23 gears and a dry kit with a 52 pill. Launching on the bottle off the line with Hoosier quick Time Pro's (total hook up no spinning at all) and they only get low 1.7 sometimes high 1.6 60' times. So for you to get 1.6 with the stock stall converter, street tires, and regular radial tires is somewhat amazing. Of course there is all sorts of weird stuff that happens here also seeing as how most of the fastest LS1's in the country are from the DFW area :D :bow: But back to the subject... I do have another friend with a full bolt on car, 3:23 gears, Vig 3600 converter, 100 shot (so he says looks more like a 150 shot), and ET Streets and he gets 1.50 60' times launching on the bottle.

I guess it's something you have to see or do your self:cool:

I pull a 1.593 out of my :D ss on stock F-1's when the track was prepped.

I believe good job:)

The best 60' I ever got on street tires (firehawk ss20's) was 1.73 with a bone stock suspension. Good track prep:).

When I was at Rockingham last year I saw a red supercharged 2001 Viper GTS run a 10.83 with the factory tires. He ran three 10sec runs and one low 11 sec run, and his best 60 ft was a 1.87. He had the car dynoed and it made 700+rwhp, it was awesome. I can believe a 1.6 60ft with 2.73 gears and gas. Mad props on the times man. With my 4.10s and radials I can only get 2.29-2.5 60fts, with the ET Drags I get 1.55-1.65 usually on na runs.