Michigan Window Tint Law

I got a ticket for side window tint and I think that the window tint law in Michigan is ridiculous. You can only have 4" of window tint from the top on the side. Michigan is the only state that has a window tint law like this. I think we should be able to have 35% or even lighter 50% on the sides since those arent even that dark at all.

Most local cops don't even care about the side window tints. I have been pulled over before by a local cop before but they never said anything about the side window tints. The Michigan State Police doesn't want window tint because they wont be able to see inside the car on night stops because of dark tint. But you can see fine what the person is doing inside the car with 35% tint. Even better with lighter 50% tint. I just want protection from all the UV lights and summer heat inside my car.

Anyone know if theres any petition or something to legalize side window tints in Michigan?

this law is for thier own protection so they take it seriously. did you get pulled over for something else? best advise...when you see a cop....DROP EM!



the windows that is

You can try all you want to try and get lesser restrictions on window tint laws but I doubt it will ever happen. For police safety they need to be able to clearly see if you have a weapon or something that could be a threat to them. As much as I think window tint is cool the safety standards highly outweigh the restrictions on window tint.
What I want to outlaw is the cops shining those darn flashlights in your face.

BTW, what is the ticket for that run now? I heard that if you tore the tint off that and brought the car back to the PD that they would rip up the ticket for you.

I have a car with REAL dark side window tint that I imported when I moved here from Canada. It was fresh tint back then (about a week old) and I wasnt about to throw away that kind of cash - so I left it on.

I asked our local PD - showed them the car - and they said "Yes, that is too dark ... have a nice day". No ticket.

a bunch of people at my school have gotten pulled over for tickets like 3 times each. If you rip the tint off for the cop right there they will let you go... at least thats what has happened with them several times. Then they go home and re-install it of course.

If there is a petition going around I could easily get a dozen people including myself to sign it. no tint laws are ridiculous... awww...they cant see the weapons? as if you would hold the weapon where they could see it anyway:rolleyes: (assuming you had a weapon and a evil intentions)

if you are holding a weapon below the door sill they can see it by looking in the rear view, thats where they look as they approach. and that is why you are allowed tint at the top of the window.

You would think those bright ass spotlights would penetrate the tint?? I was ticketed for tint in my old Mustang... funny thing is my buddy had the exact same car, same color and everything except no tints, so we switched my plate onto his car and went and got the ticket signed off. :D They didn't even verify the VIN...

http://www.michigan.gov/msp/0,1607,7-123-1586_27094-73839--,00.html

TINTED WINDOWS

Question: Can I have tinted windows on my vehicle?

Answer: The law that covers window applications is MCL 257.709. The use of tinting is limited to the rear side windows, the rear window if the vehicle has outside mirrors on both sides, and the top 4 inches of the front side windows. There is a limited exception for medical necessity with a doctor's prescription, which allows for tinting to be applied to the front side windows as well. Michigan does not have a specification for the darkness of the window application, but does prohibit applications with a solar reflectivity greater than 35%.

Question: If I have a signed letter by my doctor indicating a medical necessity for tinted windows can another person drive my vehicle if the windows are tinted?

Answer: MCL 257.709(3)(e) allows for front side window tinting with "...a letter signed by a physician or optometrist, indicating that the special window treatment or application is a medical necessity. However, the special window treatment or application shall not interfere with or obstruct the driver's clear vision of the highway or an intersecting highway." A vehicle equipped with such tinting could not legally be driven by a person other than the person to whom the letter was given.

The laws were made to protect police officers and citizens, yes they do look at the rear view mirror to see inside the car but they can't see the rear view mirror if you have too dark of tint. I have to side with the law on this issue that the police officers safety to see inside of the car outwieghs the intrusion of limiting the tintable areas. It also makes it easier for the driver to see at night which is a safety issue. The reason they allow the top 4" of window tint is to block sunlight from blinding you, they even allow this on the windshield. You could get 500,000 people to sign a petition but I doubt it will do anything except waste peoples time and raise police suspicion even more so that they provoke more "tinted window" tickets than they currently do.

I've never been bothered at all.....not yet anyway. I think my tints are 35% but dont know because thats how I bought my car 2 years ago. You can clearly see in the car during the day and a little bit at night. It is a pain tryin to see out my rearview mirror backing out my driveway at night though.

i have double 5%.....just be sure to roll the windows down before they come up to the car and you should be ok.

From what I understand. The reason we have a tint law in Michigan is this: Years back two cops were sitting at a stoplight and a car pulled up with black tint on the windows. The driver of the car put a sawed off double barrel shotgun up to the window and pointed it right at the cops. They obviously couldn't see in the car so they never saw it coming. The driver fired and killed both cops right on the spot. Since that moment and several other minor incidents they've outlawed window tint of any percentage on the side windows besides the 4 inches. I could be wrong on that story, but that's just the reasoning I heard. Or atleast what set it off anyway.

[QUOTE]Originally posted by kandied91z
[B]i have double 5%.....




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i thought i was the only one:)

Originally posted by SUPERSPORTBOY2
[QUOTE]Originally posted by kandied91z
[B]i have double 5%.....




:) :) :) :)


i thought i was the only one:)

I used to have double 5% on my rear window and 3% on both side windows in my old Sonoma GT. Black interior and white exterior. Now that was dark. Lasted for about 6 months before I got nailed. Cop said all he could see were my nuckles on the top of the steering wheel, everything else was black. I could stick my face right up to the window in the inside and someone sticking their face up to the window on the outside couldn't see me lol. Looked really nice though.

But I just can't do it. Window tint laws have NOTHING to do with safety. They have everything to do with money. Tickets=revenue. Why else do the police have an unwritten ticket quota?

If this is an issue of the officers safety, please explain to me why the police will still issue a ticket if you have the windows down when they aproach the vehicle?

Here is a short story. Me and a very good freind were at the dream cruise about 4 years ago. We were in his mustang gt. We were directed off Woodward at about 9pm. We then were pulled over. I will point out now we were going about 10MPH on I-696, and it was about 85 degrees out, so the windows were down. When the state trooper aproched the car, he demanded we roll the windows up. We refused. He "still" wrote my friend a ticket for tinted windows. Needless to say, he fought the ticket and won. Bottom line, like most tickets, this is a ploy to get money. The police and the courts count on most people not trying to fight such tickets, as this would cost them just as much to take the day off work, and so on.

If the police did not directly receive ticket revenue, I would bet you would see an end to such nonsence.

What needs to happen is that the law should be changed to state that side windows, if tinted must be rolled down if a police officer aproaches the car, and hands must be placed on the wheel in plain site and left there until instructed to do so. This is common sence, and would satisfy both us and the police.

Still, it will never happen. Because of money. Follow the money, and all things will become clear.

On another note, a long time ago there was a thread here about the same issue. I proposed a petition to the state legislature about ammending the law to allow tint, if windows were down when police aproached the car. I had a lawyer, at the time, who was going to help me out, with where to send letters, and all that. I got "one" person on this board who was serious about this. So I dropped it.

I would like to mention that this same lawyer is now a staffer for US senator Debbie Stabenow. I think he could have helped us out. Also, he had a TA and was sympathetic to the hassles we all face as owners of these cars.

If someone wants to take this on, sign me up! However, I will not take this on again, I just don't think enough people care. :(

I have to disagree, the window tint laws were not a child of money hungry legislators. This law was passed primarily for safety reasons. The reason you get a ticket even if you roll your windows down is to prevent the police from pulling someone over who doesn't roll their windows down who might possibly have that loaded gun, the law prevents the argument of "oh I forgot". Also your car is a place of limited privacy, police want to be able to look into your car even if you are pulled up next to them at a stop light, so unless you drive around with your windows down all the time (which would negate the need for tinted windows) the police can't see into your car and they can't see if foul play is happening in your car. I would prefer to have a officer look into my car through my windows and have the right to refuse a search of my car rather than have tinted windows and give them an excuse to search my car if I forget to roll down both my side windows every time a officer looks at my car because tinted windows would raise reasonable suspiscion:eek:

I agree with JP on all expcept one point. I dont have tint for privacy. I have it so my car dosent bake in the summer when parked and it looks o so bad ass! I think tint is cool but on the otherhand I agree with the laws

I agree - tint makes a car look good and it stays cooler on those hot summer days.

Yes, the problem with safety for the police may be an issue

BUT

If we want to talk about safety - how many more times have people walked up to a car and blown away the driver compared to the driver blowing away a cop?

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[QUOTE]Originally posted by smiley23
If we want to talk about safety - how many more times have people walked up to a car and blown away the driver compared to the driver blowing away a cop?

This safety issue doesn't relate to tinted windows does it? this issue relates to citizens being legally able to have a CCW permit and carry a gun right beside them in their car, which a lot of citizens legally do, which is why police want to be able to see those guns when approaching a vehicle. Also the safety issue of tinted windows also relates to the driver inside the car not being able to see other motorists clearly, it prevents accidents.

As far as the privacy issue, I wasn't saying that people should have their privacy within a car with tinted windows, I was trying to get the point across that if you have tinted windows you have less privacy because the police could have a reason to search your car because of your unlawfully tinted windows, without tinted windows and no reasonable suspiscion a officer can't search without your permission.

What about the flipside of that last comment?

How can a perp. blow away a driver if they cant see them? Personally, I feel that we should be allowed based on that alone. Never mind the simple benifits of comfort and privacy.

As far as the cop being able to see the gun ...

From a cops point of view...

If you are standing beside the car - YOUR IN THE WRONG SPOT and you didnt pay attention to your training. They are trained to stand behind the car and evacuate it.

I could post pages and pages of counter arguments to the points in support of this law. There really is no point. I understand the respect for law enforcement, and respect your guys opinions on this. I just don't agree with it, and never will.

I am convinced this law has not in any way taken police out of harms way. Simply put, if I intend to harm a police officer, do you think I care about complying with some tint law? Like many laws, that have good intentions, this one only punishes the innocent.

Originally posted by Dr. Weir
Like many laws, that have good intentions, this one only punishes the innocent.


thats a dumb statement. if you have tint on the sides you are breaking the law and therefore are not innocent. Its not like this is one of those buried laws that is there to trick you. Everyone I know who has tint got it knowing it was illegal. I have never meet anyone who got pulled over and honestly didnt know.

Originally posted by MBonZ28
thats a dumb statement. if you have tint on the sides you are breaking the law and therefore are not innocent. Its not like this is one of those buried laws that is there to trick you. Everyone I know who has tint got it knowing it was illegal. I have never meet anyone who got pulled over and honestly didnt know.

Not 100% true - there are odd-balls out there like me :)

I lived in Canada and moved to the US. The car was tinted while I lived in Canada.

I know now that it is illegal - but I found out about 6 or 7 months after I lived here from a friend who saw my car.

tue there is that case. when you had it done I am sure you knew it was fine in Canada and you didnt know you would be moving to MI I assume?

My grandma bought a car in Florida when she was down there for the winter like she always does. She didn't know the tinted windows on it were illegal til she came back to Michigan in the spring and I informed her. I agree a lot of people who have tinted windows got them tinted knowing it was illegal. But I been there's probably an equal amount that didn't know.

when i got mine done they made sure to inform me

Yeah when I got mine done they made sure I knew before they even started work. You know how muffler shops are in business to do the exhaust work but can't/won't touch your cat. Wonder how tint shops are in business to do the rear windows but are more than willing to do your side windows? Kinda the same thing isn't it. I'm not complaining, just something I noticed.

its like performance shops do. They make you sign a waiver for any "off road" only mods. Stating this car isnt a street car. With tint you just claim it to be a show only car

Originally posted by MBonZ28
thats a dumb statement. if you have tint on the sides you are breaking the law and therefore are not innocent. Its not like this is one of those buried laws that is there to trick you. Everyone I know who has tint got it knowing it was illegal. I have never meet anyone who got pulled over and honestly didnt know.

Dumb?

What is your definition of illegal?

A law, which is unjust, is by definition, illegal. This is a core principal that has been around since the foundation of this country.

This law is unjust. It assumes I am doing something wrong, harmful, or criminal. Having tint, in and of itself, causes no harm to anyone. I have failed to see how, if my windows are rolled down, I am obstructing the police, (which I assume is why the tint law exists) and how I have commited a "crime", as defined by you.

Laws punish the innocent, law abiding ciitizen all the time. Gun control is a perfect example. The only people who are affected by these laws are the innocent gun owners. A criminal is "NOT" going to be affected by this, as he isn't going to be worried about a 5 day waiting period or a background check when he is buying his gun from some crack head on the street!


This law is revenue generation, nothing more. It is intended to give a tool to law enforcement to punish those of us who drive Mustangs, Camaros, or even ricers. The assumtion is that we must be doing something wrong, by the fact that we have these cars. Tint is just another way for them to hastle us.

On another note, I know of serveral people who have tint, and are totally oblivious to the law. One is my mother. Her SUV has side tint all the way around. When I asked her about it, she was totaly ignorant of this. Of course, since she is not driving a sports car, and therefore, is not doing "anything wrong", she has never had a problem with the police.

I would like to see the statistics on what type of cars get ticketed for tint. I think my points would then be proven.

People really need to stop whining about being harased because they drive a Camaro or Mustang. I have been driving Camaros for 8 years and only gotten pulled over once. I was doing 37 over. I was breaking the law and I desreved to get pulled over. I dont blame cops for targeting our cars. They are capable of breaking the law more quickly and easier then most cars on the road. I never bitch about paying tickets either. In the past 3 years I have paid thousands (yes thousands) in traffic fines. They are there for revenue no one is deniying or hiding that fact. If you dont like being harrased, rip off your tint and sell your car. No one is forcing you to drive it.

I was pulled over for tint on my side windows, first day I had my 1999 SS (on my way to transfer the registration). The cop let me go when I stated that I just purchased the vehicle. I am scheduled to remove the tint in 2 weeks. It just isn't worth the aggravation and the possible $245 for the ticket (Nova Scotia). I honestly DID NOT know! Will cost $20 a window to remove.

My opinion is that tint on the side windows is great in the daylight, but at night, vision is reduced to the point that I will enjoy its removal.

I do believe it is a revenue stream for the Province. I just contributed for my absence of a seatbelt. $135 :(
Seatbelts. "Do they save lives - of course they do." Do I want to wear one. No. Like it was stated previously, it is a serious money stream. The one point I would like to make about seatbelts is "The top speeders "Cops, Taxis, and Couriers" are exempt !!"

That just sucks! If it was for safety, everybody would require their use. It only take's a second to put it on and take it off. It's all about $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$.

Back to TINT. Do I think it contributes to the safety of the officer? NO.
You can have total tint on the back window. If anybody had the crazy notion of shooting a cop, they could easily do it through the back window. If it was for police safety, you wouldn't be able to tint any window of the vehicle.

I think that politicians will keep dreaming up laws. The only way to retaliate is speak your mind to the politician who shows up at your door and vote against the current Government.

I heard of a new Halifax by-law yesterday on the radio. A dog can **** on your lawn and it is illegal if the house owner does not remove the item from his lawn. They stated that it raises health issues. Makes you think, "Who's running behind the deer in the woods, picking up that load of crap?"

Who thinks this stuff up?

:confused:

I dont think for its safety... cops dont want your side window tinted because they want to see the driver... and we all know why they want to see the driver... because if the driver is a 18yo kid like me in a camaro, they know they have an easy target... Ill break some dumb law, for example doing 3 over, and then since im a kid, i wont be able to talk the officer out of the ticket, because I dont know what im talking about, and also am probably less likely to fight it in court since I cant afford a lawyer... Whereas if they see a 40yo guy behind the wheel, "oh... he just made a little mistake, he didnt have any bad intentions"

Anyway, like I said before, I know SEVERAL people who have gotten pulled over for it, and none of them recieved a ticket because they pulled the tint off on the spot for the cop. So, im not afraid to tint my car... Ill just make sure to have 'pull-tabs' like everyone else I know with tint;)

Originally posted by MBonZ28
tue there is that case. when you had it done I am sure you knew it was fine in Canada and you didnt know you would be moving to MI I assume?

Correct - at the time the tint was applied - it was months later that I moved and was still unaware of the law many months after I moved here.

heh I stumbled on this post looking for pics of different shades of tint trying to decide what to put on my new 2001 WS6, my IROC has 5% all around, Florida cops dont hassle u for it unless they are picking on you. The guy who said he's tired of people claiming they're being harassed because of the car they drive - ha! ha!!! YEAH RIGHT! Most of the tickets I've gotten were made up or exagerated. Like, I'd accellarate to 15mph with my converter flashing 3000rpm after getting a ticket for rolling a stop sign that I didn't roll then get threatened with arrest for leaving the scene of a traffic stop aggressively. That was fun. I was told I cut off a police officer and caused people to hit their brakes when I was changing lanes, so he searched my car, threatened me with arrest, told I was probably on my way to a club to score drugs n all kindsa ****. Don't give me that "you're not a victim because you drive a Camaro" BS - I've known people who drive like maniacs and never get a ticket - usually I get a ticket when I'm trying to drive calmly! It's a game of chance, if you're on the I4 here in Orlando then either you're the idiot doing the speed limit 55 pissing everyone off for blocking traffic, or you're like most people doing 70 risking a ticket to the officer that decides he wants to randomly pull over one of the 1000's of speeders that are just following traffic, or you're the guy doing 90 because 70 just isnt fast enough for you. I can't tell you the amount of time's i've been doing 70+ in a 55 and had cops pass me or tailgate me trying to get me to move out their way. Go to Miami, my friend had an accident there with a local Miami'an n the cops told him to forget about it or he'd be charged with DUI! He doesnt even drink! That same friend has been pulled over because the officer thought his tag looked fake or "made out of tin cans" - wtf kinda reason is that?? I was in his Mustang with him when a cop pulls up behind him n starts singing "we're chasing speeders! we're chasing speeders! look! theres one!" over the megaphone n writes him a ticket for doing 65 in a 55.

Sounds like something out of the movie super troopers.

And thats why that movie was made :)

my wife has a heart condition...so dark tint is required for her health....a cop pulled us over and started busitn balls about the tint..my wife informed him were he could stick that ticket as she showed him her "authorization"....i sat the just cracking up...so very funny,...

like a few have wsaid before...its common friggin sense...if you have dark tint and are pulled over, roll the windows down and hang your arms out the window....no problem

I got nabed by a state boy on 75 downriver on the way to Cedar point last week. :mad: His only reason for pulling me over was the tints and they are only %35. My car has white leather so it makes the tint look less dark, so you can see through them just fine.

Dang, I was planning on getting 35 on my sides, but I think im gonna have to go lighter than that now...

I'm getting 35% done on sides before I go to Florida for summer. Its too hot to drive all the way down there without window tint!! IF I get pulled over again for it, too bad, I will just take it off and put it back on next summer!

If you do a lot of freeway driving DON'T TINT your side windows. The state cops love writing tickets for tint. And they usually search your vehicle too. If you drive in the city most of the time you shouldn't have a problem unless you drive late at nite and a cop doesn't have anything better to do.

I get so tired of hearing all the crap about it being for the officers safety!! There is no more violence towards officers in the states that allow tint, than there is here in Michigan. That is a fact.

I have a letter from my doctor, & carry it with me. Common sence tells you to lower the windows when you get pulled over.

I think the law needs to be challenged. I'll be the first to sign up.

I stop people almost daily JUST for tint. Wrote about 350 tint tickets last year alone :). I got 14 in one day last week. I'm trying for 400 this year which will net me the Deluxe GE Toaster Oven.

For those crying for a change in the law you may get your wish. There's currently a Senate bill to make it a Misdemeanor with possible 90 days in jail, $500 fine and mandatory removal.

Have a nice day....:D

Originally posted by TT/A1233
I stop people almost daily JUST for tint. Wrote about 350 tint tickets last year alone :). I got 14 in one day last week. I'm trying for 400 this year which will net me the Deluxe GE Toaster Oven.

For those crying for a change in the law you may get your wish. There's currently a Senate bill to make it a Misdemeanor with possible 90 days in jail, $500 fine and mandatory removal.

Have a nice day....:D
weve finally found the purpose of the law! its a game for police officers like in the movie supertroopers! My school (government funded) computer tech job got cut, but its sure a good thing we still have tint enforcers!!! :rolleyes: x999999^9999999

for the good of this country I hope you are joking...

Yup, you got me...I'm only joking. There isn't a toaster oven involved.

Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
weve finally found the purpose of the law! its a game for police officers like in the movie supertroopers! My school (government funded) computer tech job got cut, but its sure a good thing we still have tint enforcers!!! :rolleyes: x999999^9999999
for the good of this country I hope you are joking...


Cops make money for the system. So why fire them?

Hey, I could care less if each ticket has 0 fines. I just want compliance and don't care if that state gets any $$. But as already stated some morons put it right back on. With a monetary penalty there's incentive NOT to put it back on. This ticket IS NOT supposed to be a fix-it. The courts have confused the rules on this. Only cracked windshields, burnt out lights and rotten mufflers are considered fix-its.

Wear sunglasses if it's too bright outside. At least you can remove sunglasses for night driving in the foggy rain.

Originally posted by robvas
Cops make money for the system. So why fire them? well if the tickets arent paying for GE toaster ovens, then what I said doesnt apply;);)

Originally posted by JoeliusZ28
well if the tickets arent paying for GE toaster ovens, then what I said doesnt apply;);) Granted, tickets make money for "the system" but those who write tickets get paid the same for writing 1 or 50 per month. There is NO incentive for individual officers to write any amount of tickets. Some guys I work with write as few as 3 per month and others write over 100. Of course we need to check the pulse of the guys who write less than 5, just to make sure they're still alive and breathing.

Originally posted by TT/A1233
Hey, I could care less if each ticket has 0 fines. I just want compliance and don't care if that state gets any $$. But as already stated some morons put it right back on. With a monetary penalty there's incentive NOT to put it back on. This ticket IS NOT supposed to be a fix-it. The courts have confused the rules on this. Only cracked windshields, burnt out lights and rotten mufflers are considered fix-its.

Wear sunglasses if it's too bright outside. At least you can remove sunglasses for night driving in the foggy rain.

Tell me why then a lot of cops have their windows tinted on their personal vehicles? Its because they're above the law. They get pulled over and whip out the badge and off they go. How come nobody harrasses them?

And as far as tinted windows go... My fiance gets migraines from light. Even at night the street lights give her headaches. Shes seen a doctor and is controlling it as much as she can on her end but the doctor said to tint her windows so shes going to get a prescription. But then again if the cops can't write her for the tint I'm sure they'll find another BS excuse to write a ticket.

Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI
Tell me why then a lot of cops have their windows tinted on their personal vehicles? Its because they're above the law. They get pulled over and whip out the badge and off they go. How come nobody harrasses them? Why don't you ask the ones who have them tinted and get an answer from the horses mouth? Have you ever considered that some of them have medical notes with legitimate eye conditions? If they're not in compliance then they're setting a poor example. If you feel you're being cheated by the cops and they're breaking the law do something about it, complaining here won't help you. Write letters to the police chiefs about their officers' lawlessness. If that doesn't work get ahold of Local 4 Defenders. They love stories like that.

Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI
And as far as tinted windows go... My fiance gets migraines from light. Even at night the street lights give her headaches. Shes seen a doctor and is controlling it as much as she can on her end but the doctor said to tint her windows so shes going to get a prescription. But then again if the cops can't write her for the tint I'm sure they'll find another BS excuse to write a ticket. If your fiancee gets such bad migraines then I submit she's not safe to be behind the wheel. As we all know a migraine sufferer can lose all or part of their vision, can't concentrate and may lose their coordination. All just a wee-bit important for driving. Maybe a fine set of prescription eyeware is what she needs instead of black windows. At least the glasses can be taken off for inclement weather drivng.

I imagine if the SOS found out her condition was so severe as to require window tinting and "street lights" give her headaches they'd take her license as not being a safe driver due to medical reasons. I can only hope I'm not sharing the same road the moment one of her migraines hits.

All it takes is an OC-88 form sent to SOS. I've seen it done before....

Let's not turn this into a bickering match, eh fellas?

Originally posted by JasonD
Let's not turn this into a bickering match, eh fellas? :rolleyes:

C'mon, no board rules are being broken. It's just a little debate and class lesson on life with someone who sees the world thru one-way tinted glass.

Originally posted by TT/A1233
:rolleyes:

C'mon, no board rules are being broken.

I really don't care if rules are broken or not. If you guys wanna argue, do it through e-mail.

Sorry Jason, I'll be a man and STFU. :D

Originally posted by JasonD
I really don't care if rules are broken or not. If you guys wanna argue, do it through e-mail. Roger that, you're the boss.

I guess there's no debating or posting of differing opinions on this board, even if it's done in a non-confrontational way and no rules are being broken....:shame:

For the sake equal treatment I hope this unwritten rule is enforced on everyone and in every forum.

Originally posted by TT/A1233
For the sake equal treatment I hope this unwritten rule is enforced on everyone and in every forum.

It is not that big of a deal, buddy. I was just asking for it not to turn into a bickering match, no more no less.

I agree with some of the things you guys are saying and you can discuss it all you want, I was just asking everyone to keep it civil. Sheesh.

Originally posted by JasonD
It is not that big of a deal, buddy. I was just asking for it not to turn into a bickering match, no more no less.

I agree with some of the things you guys are saying and you can discuss it all you want, I was just asking everyone to keep it civil. Sheesh. It's not a big deal to me either. I thought it was civil and on topic. I guess I'm confused regarding the problem. In any case I'm done here which'll make some people happy. I certainly don't want to upset the apple cart.

Sincerely,
Buddy

I apologize, since it was probably my post that started the bickering... I was having a bad day, ill do my best to refrain from blatant sarcasm from now on.

I agree 100% with Dr. Weir, common sense would prevail. I own a 1 ton pickup and tint or no tint a cop needs a step stool to see inside even if all the windows were broken out!
:p

I stop people almost daily JUST for tint. Wrote about 350 tint tickets last year alone . I got 14 in one day last week. I'm trying for 400 this year which will net me the Deluxe GE Toaster Oven.

:rolleyes:

Nice job, maybe next time you can take some time in between writing those bullsh!t tickets and try to do some real police work for a change! :thumb:

Originally posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
:rolleyes:

Nice job, maybe next time you can take some time in between writing those bullsh!t tickets and try to do some real police work for a change! :thumb:

LOL.... I actually laughed when I read this...

I agree, but I know if I was a cop id be pulling 16 and 17yo kids daily for this kinda stuff for amusement alone :)

Id love to say id be out trying to find theives and killers and rapists but id prolly be giving tint tickets too :)

Originally posted by 95 Z/28 LT1
:rolleyes:

Nice job, maybe next time you can take some time in between writing those bullsh!t tickets and try to do some real police work for a change! :thumb:

Every cop I know doesn't bother with misdemeanors, most of them want a felony arrest but I guess when you pull someone over for tinted windows you find a felon or two on occasion.

And on another note... Since some people are so obsessed with "enforcing the law" then why don't you go out and write tickets for littering to all of the people who throw cigarette butts out their windows? Thats littering if I ever seen it. You ever stop at a light in a busy intersection and see all of the butts laying ont he ground? Why isn't there any enforcement of the littering law when its done hundreds of times a day? But they're gonna go and pick on the people with tinted windows?

Sorry Jason I said I'd STFU so i'm going to now....

I don't mean to add any fuel to the fire but most police officers I know do get commendations and higher raises for writing more tickets, if they don't fullfill their quota they get repremanded for such. The moral is that there are alot of cops out there who have nothing better to do than to write tickets for tint, it isn't exactly BS because too much window tint is illegal and they have the right to do it, I just think they should be doing better things with their time although there is more of a chance that by pulling over someone for window tint the cops might see some contraband which may allow them to do a thorough search of the car and thats when they have a chance at a real bust. I however do not agree with the cops that simply write tickets to harass people. But if you do have a problem with police officers then find a good attorney and sue the city/police department for harrassment. :D

Originally posted by jp2002ls1
But if you do have a problem with police officers then find a good attorney and sue the city/police department for harrassment. :D


Maybe after you pass the bar you can represent some of us in Roseville for their loitering tickets ;) Then we can go from there... :D