Where should I go from here?

i bought this for 900 bucks:
http://solidgaming.com/mitch/cam2.jpg

And now it looks like this:
http://solidgaming.com/mitch/camnew.jpg

Any suggestions on where I should go from here?
(Goddamn you Admins not allowing IMG code...lol)

[This message has been edited by CaswestCamaroSS (edited July 24, 2002).]

what exaclty are you asking

Here is what I would do....
1. Get rid of the Z28 badges on your fenders.
2. Try and find a 85 - 92 rs or z28 front peice.
3. Try and get the 91-92 Ground effects.
4. 91/92 Z28 wing
5. Paint it either brite white or go for like a Sunset orange.
6. Fourth Gen Leather Seats.
7. Get rid of the door protector strips.
8. And drop in a nice small Block, 350 - 400
9. Drop in a 6spd tranny from a fourthgen.
10. Hooker shorties, a cutout, and what ever catback you want.
11. And finally, get out there and drive it.

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1994 Camaro Z28.
1989 Camaro RS. Bright Red/ 58,XXX miles. SOLD and EXTREMELY MISSED
1983 Camaro SC IRON DUKE 4cyl,
Mid Iowa Camaro Club Member

Quote from cz28 member WTF:
"Women are evil hurtful creatures that need to be handled very carefully!"

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Screamer27:
Here is what I would do....
1. Get rid of the Z28 badges on your fenders.
2. Try and find a 85 - 92 rs or z28 front peice.
3. Try and get the 91-92 Ground effects.
4. 91/92 Z28 wing
5. Paint it either brite white or go for like a Sunset orange.
6. Fourth Gen Leather Seats.
7. Get rid of the door protector strips.
8. And drop in a nice small Block, 350 - 400
9. Drop in a 6spd tranny from a fourthgen.
10. Hooker shorties, a cutout, and what ever catback you want.
11. And finally, get out there and drive it.

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1. **** you.
2. No, too common
3. I wish
4. See #1
5. white isnt bad, but im thinking maybe platinum....
6. I have some 97 30th An. Seats in my garage but one needs a bit of upholstery
7. Maybe.
8. My 305 will do for now
9. Riiiight. Only if a rich uncle dies.
10. done
11. I just did.

Id like to add, Demon Carbs are ****. I took mine back and got me a trust edelbrock http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

IMHO, 4th Gen badges look ok. I hate the early 87' and older door protector strips. I'd get the newer ones that are sleeker from an 88'-92' car - (something I plan to do to my car). Why not stay w/ the sport coupe body? It's different, and with the right stance and paint job it would look good. The 91'-92' wheels helped out a lot.

So right now - paint, and lower it about 1.5 - 2 inches. Just my $0.02

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1986 IROC-Z, 8pt. cage, 383, Mini Ram, DFI, Art Carr 700R4, 12 bolt.....

[This message has been edited by 86 IROC (edited July 26, 2002).]

The guy asks for help then bashes ppl for their help. I liked what he had to say, I hate the little vents in the front facia, they look so terrible, I would just get a newer facia, I chose not to get the 91-92 ground effects, (just more weight) but a new facia would do wonders for your cars looks.($100.00) Lower it ($200.00), get a 4th gen rear ($200.00), take the adjustable panhand bar off the 4th gen when you take the rear ($35.00) And you say your carbed now, leave it there till you have some money then go monster EFI.. Acell DFI or Tec II or F.A.S.T. programming software.. As I look at the pic again, the front facia is the only thing holding it back.. have fun and whatever you do do it right the first time..

Kevin
www.ntimad8.cz28.com (http://www.ntimad8.cz28.com)

One question...Is that car even a Z28? B/c it looks a lot like mine and its a base model sport coupe. If its not a z28 Loose the F**king badges!!!!!!!!!!!

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Rob
1985 Camaro
305 4bbl
IROC Rims
1970 Chevelle SS
396 factory Bore 402
All Numbers Match.

1. Poop on the hood
2. Inside! Poop there also.
3. Close doors and let simmer for an hour.
4. Let sit for 2 minutes uncovered before serving.


http://web.camaross.com/bb/smile.gif

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Denny Villemure
1989 Camaro IROC-Z Convertible, 305 TPI, 2.73 Gear, Flowmaster 2 chamber. 15.60 on motor, 14.20 on a 75 shot from NX. Woo hoo!
www.denny.cz28.com (http://www.denny.cz28.com)

I like the wheels. Freshen up the whole suspension, add some sub-frame connectors. update the interior, those seats are probably shot. Paint it what ever looks good with the interior. Down the road, the engine will need some work I am sure. As for the Z28 badges, if it aint a Z ..loose em! Do the stealth thing before you make it a look-a-like.

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1991 Camaro Z28 350 TPI
106,000 miles and still kickin'
CURRENT MODS
*Sony head unit
Pioneer front and back speakers
1 10" sub and amp
K & N air filter
JET Air Foil
shift kit
1.6:1 rockers

FUTURE MODS
front suspension
exhaust (A cone took out my muffler at an auto cross race)

im not getting rid of the Z badges. My car will run up there with any damn Z28, whether its stock or slightly modified. Theres only 2 differenced in a Z28 or IROC-Z and mine: the front clip, and the ground effects.

Dont give me **** just because i put Z28 emblems on my car JUST because the title doesnt say "Z28" out beside it...Thats just total BS.

Someones a piss off, I would point fingers, but I figure its easy to notice who I'm talking about.

But on with my opinion.

A camaro is a camaro, and a honda is a honda, the only thing is that most camaro/ Firebird owners don't really have to lie about what they drive, I have an 86 Camaro Base model, and I'm keeping it that way, because, simply put, thats what it is.

I think you should not worry about the outside at all, get a good interior to start off, and worry about suspension, and then on performance, and THEN on what it looks like.

You live nowhere near me, and as such, I could care less, as long as I don't see it.

And if your going to say "Well it runs like a z28 so I should beable to stick the markings on it" then I personally think you should go get a Honda V-tek sticker, and stick it on the &lt;&lt;Insert any random place, ricer don't care&gt;&gt; Because just because it runs like this car, or that car, or another car, doesn't mean it is that car.

So what do I think you should do?

1) Sell this car before you f**k it up

2) Buy a z28

3) Call it a Firebird.

+=-KarmaCult-=+

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1986 Camaro V8 5 spd.
159k miles
Quadra jet Carb
No mods yet

Lose the badging. That's like putting a VTEC sticker on a Honda that's not a VTEC. Ricer mentality.
Trust me the badging isn't adding any horsepower and if you get some serious performance in that thing, and people pull up to it and think, oh it's not a Z28, and then you blow their doors off, you'll get a lot more respect and shock them at the same time.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">And if your going to say "Well it runs like a z28 so I should beable to stick the markings on it" then I personally think you should go get a Honda V-tek sticker, and stick it on the &lt;&lt;Insert any random place, ricer don't care&gt;&gt; Because just because it runs like this car, or that car, or another car, doesn't mean it is that car.[/B]</font>

theres a big difference in putting vtec stickers on a non-vtec honda than putting z28 emblems on a camaro. Vtec is a type of engine. If i put 454 stickers on my camaro with it being a small block, that would be retarded. Or if I put Z28 emblems on a beretta or something like that, it would be retarded. We're talking about the exact same car here tho. The ONLY difference between mine and an original Z is the title and a couple of body parts. I really dont see what the damned fuss is over anyways.

I see guys with chevy trucks that say 350SS on them all the time. i wouldnt say anything to them like you say to me because they usually live up to the supersport title, just as mine does the z28 title.

Get things straight before you knock my car again...

Sure, V-tec is an engine, and ricers usually have the stickers without the engine, so let me put this in terms alittle easier to understand.


Base Camaro = Base 305, base Body style, Base everything

z28 = Upgraded suspension, better engine, better body styling, it goes on and on.

Now what your doing is taking a base camaro and saying "Hay look, I don't have the basic engine, I have the one that came with the Z28, and my suspension rocks."

So in reality, with the Z28 on your car, you are in fact saying you have an engine you don't, maybe its the same size, and looks the same, but if thats enough for you to call it the same, then you need to read up on it.

I'm not capping on the car, or this or that, I know what I know, and what I know is this.

You are putting the Z28 on your car for looks, your saying "my car is this" and as such, your also saying that you have the suspension upgrades, the engine upgrade, and all that.

Now lets look at this from a ricers point of view.

You own a Honda, it runs good and you have power adders all over the place, and because it runs equally as good, or better then the model with V-Tec, you put with decales of the one with a v-tec engine, you still don't have a V-tec, its the same car, same looks, same everything, just the engines alittle differant, and as such, you enter ricer territory, and die horribly trying to drive under a diesel truck.

Both stories are about the same, except you have a good car, and making it lame.

You say its not a big deal, well then drop the label, you don't have that engine, you don't have that suspension, and you don't have those options on that car.

So don't cap on blah blah blah, whatever, I have been around camaros and firebirds since I was born, and against my will for the most part, I have learned alot from my family, so go read a book, study abit, and realize that it isn't, nor will it ever be a Z28.

the only way to turn it into a Z28 would be to lie, just like all the ricers, and thats just lame.

or change that vin, and go through all the problems, but thats overkill.

Just face it, You have a camaro, not a Z28, but a camaro, at least you have a V8, I feel bad for all those 6ers out there.

all in all, face it, make it good, most chicks will leave you after they find out your a ***** anyway, even if it was a Z28.

+=-KarmaCult-=+

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1986 Camaro V8 5 spd.
159k miles
Quadra jet Carb
No mods yet

Damn I sence some hostility Here...anyways KarmaCult has got a point...its not a Z so lose the badging. Wait a minute..Even though you drive A camaro I think we can still call you a "ricer". Please If ur going to f*ck-up the Camaro by making a Z clone PLEASE do get rid of it and buy yourself a f*cking Honada. Oh I forgot one thing Your 305 puts out a outragious 155 HP. Now subtract about 15% for drivetrain loss and you get roughtly 135 RWHP.

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Rob
1985 Camaro
305 4bbl
IROC Rims
1970 Chevelle SS
396 factory Bore 402
All Numbers Match.

[This message has been edited by marek85 (edited August 04, 2002).]

Honestly, I seen a 93-97 Z28 today with SS badges on it. Stock Z hood, stock 16" rims...i was very close to asking him WHY he did that.

I'd take them off personally, otherwise it looks like a fun project. I can see a Sunset ORange color maybe...hehe

What year is the car? What engine do you have? LG4? or L69? I'd say it needs some lowering springs. Tint the windows, and paint it blue or black. Definately get the 4th gen seats in it.
Also the Z28 badges really do look bad. It doesn't even resemble a Z28. No flame intended. What about some 5.0 HO badges or something like that? IMO it would look better than the Z28 badges.

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Mario,
White 94 Z28 (http://www.z28roc.cz28.com/index.html)
Yeah I got a few mods
Video (http://www.z28roc.cz28.com/purge.mpg)
Black 87 IROC-Z (http://www.z28roc.cz28.com/iroc5.jpg)

Paint it whatever colour you like. Since you have a red interior, black would look excellent. Then if you later add ground effects (as you should if you desire to keep the Z28 badges because EVERY single 3rd gen Z28 had ground effects) paint them light grey with a red stripe separating the body from the gfx. That looks killer, believe me!

Port and polish your stock heads, put in a Crane PowerMax 266 cam, 3.42 gears and tune up the QJet nicely.

It will be a low 14 second Z28 clone that will look hot, too http://web.camaross.com/bb/biggrin.gif

Why not just put a huge TypeR sticker on it? Loose the z28 badges if its not a z.

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87 iroc 350, t-tops. stock for now.
93z a3 with a trans break and 3500 stall, nitrous works 100shot, ported heads, lunati 232/242 duation 510/525 lift 110lsa, groty long tubes, true dual 3" with H-pipe, magnum rockers, tr6 plugs, msd 8.5 wires, !cat, !egr, !air 13.96 first time at track with no mods.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by lt1camaroman93:
Why not just put a huge TypeR sticker on it?
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This would be a good Idea I think you should do It

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Rob
1985 Camaro
305 4bbl
IROC Rims
1970 Chevelle SS
396 factory Bore 402
All Numbers Match.

Lose the z badge, paint the body solid black, no gfx, it will look bad***. A black thirdgen is sexy!!! http://web.camaross.com/bb/wink.gif Focus on aircleaner/carb/manifold/cam. You said you already did exhaust, right? People won't make fun of you at the drag strip anymore, like they do me. http://web.camaross.com/bb/redface.gif Oh, and definitely subframe connectors, as said before, if you'll be playing with that much power.

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91 305 drop top
Holley air cleaner
Flowmaster 80 Series
Bosch Platinum 4+ plugs
160* thermo
B&M shift kit (waiting to get put in)
Cragar S/S wheels-just so I could negate any speed I may have gained :)
more coming soon

I like how some people can give suggestions and not be total *******s about it, while others just assume as much as they can.

1. My car has upgraded suspension, i.e. shocks, sway bars, struts, etc. I'm waiting on a custom strut brace, subframe connectors, and eibach springs at the moment.

2. If that engine put out onlt 155 hp, then id kill myself. I've already put a nice set of edelbrock heads, a .292 roller cam and roller setup, and an edelbrock performer rpm intake, and a road demon 625. The block has been bored, and I now have a steel crank, forged rods and pistons, and some other assorted goodies, like a posi from an IROC with 3.73's. I have a ****LOAD more than 155 horses

So here's the deal. I own this car, I paid for it, and I've put more work and money into it than i care to list. I'll put what I want on my car. There isnt one goddamn thing wrong with having z28 emblems on that car. You people are just getting bent out of shape because someone can build something that you paid too much for. Anyways, if you want me to take these emblems off, come to arkansas. take em off yerself. Hell ill let you take them off. But i cant be ****ed to go take them off because a bunch of idiots doesnt like what i do to my car.

You call me a ricer...which is total ****. My car can back up what it says. It doesnt just look fast, it IS fast too. Rice is something that looks fast, and is stock.

I rest my case. Thanks to those who offered decent advice without cutting down my car. this can be closed now, because I'm tired of ****heads that dont know their ass from their elbows cutting me down for no good reason....

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by CaswestCamaroSS:
I'm tired of ****heads that dont know their ass from their elbows </font>

Hmmm I think I you don't know what your talking about. I I know my ass from my elbow thank you very much. I am glad you did all that work to make your car go fast. Its just not fast enough. Personally I like the whole "sleeper" look.


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Rob
1985 Camaro
305 4bbl
IROC Rims
1970 Chevelle SS
396 factory Bore 402
All Numbers Match.

[This message has been edited by marek85 (edited August 10, 2002).]