ATTENTION: Before you post a "new" Camaro concept, get in here!!!

If your "never seen before" concept looks like THIS:

http://www.vizualsoft.com/lee/camaroconcept.jpg

Please don't bother posting it. Thank you for your time. :D

EDIT: Oh by the way, we've seen this (http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0309phr_5camaro/) too!

Damn, we could have used that about a week ago.

Maybe the Admin's can make this a <ahem> "sticky" :o thread...

YOU just posted it AGAIN~!!!!

LMAO

:lol:

Yes, somebody needs to stick this.

is it the same concept if the color and the wheels are different??????????????? :D ;) :p

LOL :D

yea, can we post the blue one then?

Yeah, but have you seen this one?

http://www.vizualsoft.com/lee/camaroconcept.jpg

Keep this on top! :D

:eek: That is one AMAZING concept :eek:

:bow:

Man... I'd love to see that same concept in say... 7 or 8 different colors.

Gee, are you trying to say that concept's been posted here before? ;) :p

Originally posted by 1990 Turbo Grand Prix
Yeah, but have you seen this one?

http://www.vizualsoft.com/lee/camaroconcept.jpg

:shock: oh man that one is sweet, much better than the other one!
:cool:

--------Mikes25thAnnTA

Man... I'd love to see that same concept in say... 7 or 8 different colors-----------

yea, maybe like a baby blue or something

I don't know if anyone has mentioned it yet, but this guy's work is in the newest Popular Hotrodding. Except it's orange with white stripes.

Damn Mark I forgot to tell you Lutz said not to post that. ;)

Wow, my post became a sticky. Cool! :cool:

Now let's hope people actually stop to read it before they post that picture again. :rolleyes:

what picture?

Originally posted by CamaroJim
what picture? http://www.vizualsoft.com/lee/camaroconcept.jpg this picture.

wow, thats badass.....is that the new camaro?

Originally posted by CamaroJim
wow, thats badass.....is that the new camaro?

I think it's safe to say Jim is pulling your chain. ;)

Hey guys, PHR's website is now updated and has the renders and article about my Camaro concept. Check it out!
www.popularhotrodding.com (http://www.popularhotrodding.com)

--Kris H

Originally posted by KrisH
Hey guys, PHR's website is now updated and has the renders and article about my Camaro concept. Check it out!
www.popularhotrodding.com (http://www.popularhotrodding.com)


A good article and your final design looks much better than the one that's been floating around here for the past few months IMO. Not bad, but I'm just not a big fan of retro. :)

Originally posted by KrisH
Hey guys, PHR's website is now updated and has the renders and article about my Camaro concept. Check it out!
www.popularhotrodding.com (http://www.popularhotrodding.com)

--Kris H

Kris, you are very talented and those were cool renderings. However, I wouldn't be satisfied if that were the next Camaro. Sorry.

I stand anti-retro when it comes to the 5th gen. But if Chevy made that, I'd make an exception buy it in a heartbeat. That car is simply gorgeous.

Great work, and I do like it better than the originals... but... it still way too retro for my tastes...

I'd love to see Kris's take on a modern, evolutionary version of a 5th Gen Camaro!

Your design looks great. But the retro look is a passing fad. We need a design that has Camaro styling elements that is fresh and new. As much as I like those pictures (that car looks real cool) I would have to say that a fifth-gen shouldn't look like a 69 Camaro.

arent the camaro's and f-birds out of production now?

and btw..every car on the road should look like a 1st gen camaro...the 1st gen camaro is the perfect car..its beutifull

Linky no worky.

Originally posted by Rajun Cajun
Linky no worky. do a search in this forum and you will find it, its posted about a million times. ITs okay since your a newbie!;)

Great job on the redesign, its just what the 1st design was lacking. I love it. Maybe someday chevy will see the light. I hope they bring the car back so I can buy one, for now I will stick with my used Camaros. I can't think of a better place to get the next Camaro from than a designer who is also a fan of the car. Also IMO you have not taken the retro thing too far (like the thunderbird), but have given it just enough flavor from the cars history, while maintaining the agressive look thats such a part of what F-bodies are and always were to myself and many others. Still some will disagree with me, but anyway thats just my opinion!

KrisH I gotta ask man. Why stop there. That is an awesome concept. I'd like to see some of your concepts for other cars in the GM line. Perhaps a Chevelle, Nova, or Impala. Better yet redesign a new split window Corvette.

I guarantee that I won't stop there. Looks like PHR has some plans for me in the near future and I have some plans for them. Just keep your eyes peeled!
Thanks for the compliments!
-Kris

Give Kris H. credit. While everyone talks about it, whines about it, or argues about it, this guy actually designs something workable and good looking. I do this kind of stuff for a living and combining the workable with the good looking is not the easiest job. I also have some ideas for a fifth generation F-body and will probably start to work on one within the next few weeks. If you look in the December 2003 issue of PHR under Good Guys Columbus Car Show you will find Scott Winfield's Retrolet. I know a lot of you don't like the retro look, but the original concept was the owner's. I came up with the most of the design and a large part of the fabricating. This car retains a lot of the '55 Chevy styling, yet still manages to pull off a new car look. Most people at the Good Guys Show thought this was a General Motors concept car. This car drew a huge crowd all weekend and won a Boyd Coddington's Pro's pick. I just want to say, Kris, keep up the good work. Retro may be a passing phase, but it's a phase that will have to be worked through to everyone's satisfaction before it will be done. Personally, I think the new styles are all cookie cutter blobs or sharp edged boxes. This is a nostalgic country and I believe that the retro look works because of that.

I think the reason the Retro version of cars are so popular is because of what it represents. No matter your age these cars help remind people of a simpler time when life was less complicated. Did I live during that age? No, but my Father and Mother did and from there words and stories you can almost relive those times almost as if you were there. The one thing that sticks out the most about those years is the cars. The Muscle car era. The smell of burnt rubber and high octane gas. The thrill of waiting for the light to hit green. The crisp beauti of GTO's, Mustangs, 442's, Camaro's, and of course the Hemi. The amesome sounds and almost bliss feeling of roaring V8's untouched by emission regulations or chocked with emission sensors. The spin tingling feeling you get through your body as you feel the earth shake beneath your feet from the raw power of the engines. The over whelming jolt of adreniline as you drop the clutch when the light hits green.

No I didn't live during that time, but I would sure loved to been around to see it.

LOL :D

That is still the best damn Rendering of a 5th Gen that ive seen by far. I hope to see it go somewhere.



Later,
-JOhn

Dude Kris I love it. I dunno about all of this retro talk nore do i care. I just freakin love the design of this car. I think that green color wih chrome wheels would look freakin sweet. Hopefully you guys could convence GM and chevy to start building this car in 2007. I know I would buy it as long as it stay lower than 35,000.

Originally posted by kaoticcamaross
Hopefully you guys could convence GM and chevy to start building this car in 2007.

GM has been reported to have a policy of not accepting designs from sources outside of GM itself, for a variety of very valid reasons...

Unless they made an exception for some reason, which I doubt, this is an impossibility...

So if they freakin hire him he won't b an outside source will he. Solved that problem.:D

Though it would be nice, it would never happen. GM, like Darth Xed said, doesn't ever look at outside designs. I believe that either Mopar or Ford is a little more lenient on this subject. The Prowler was designed by someone outside of the company. Thanks for the compliments though.

Kris

KrisH... don't be too sure. in GuionM's post he mentioned that Lutz wanted a diff. approach and that designs from outside GM would be the solution. I wouldn't give up on it just yet, remember the General is moving quickly and you never know... If you're in the right place at the right time...


just remember to come back here and post all you creations to keep us thinking and speculating.

That's excellent work Chris, I like the lines on the car a lot.

Very talented, keep it up.

What software are you using?

If GM isn't officially accepting outside ideas why don't you sell/give away your ideas to someone inside GM? You might not profit any if they decided to produce your concept, but at least you'll see your creation running the streets! That would be the best feeling! muhhahahahahah. My babies! Unite!

so whjat are specs of any for this fine fine 69 front cliped 05 camaro ????

and will there be a FireBird equivlant??

broken link aint workin 4 me

You guys gotta get the link workin again i wanna see the pic!!

If all else fails I saved it on my computer and can host it somewhere. Well i saved the green one b/c thats the one I liked.

send it here

Well as soon as the internet is back up in my room I will. damn ACU connection sucks.

that car is ****ing awesome, i love my camaro but seeing that would make me trade my car anyday for that one, i hope its not as pricy as it looks hopfully maybe under $40g's but damn that is a sweet as desgin, im totally down for that.

post the link again, anyone?

send the pic to djhafownz@cofs.net and i'll host it. :D

go to my web site it's on there.

http://www.rankmyride.com/?page=cars/view&CID=3239&pnum=6

I wouldn't mind if the next gen Camaro was a retro inspired design. However, I prefer a design based on the 2nd gen Camaros rather than the 1st gen ones. Maybe it's just my age (I'm 36), but the Camaros (Really the Trans Ams) that inspired me the most in my youth were the 2nd gen ones ;)

Here's a pair of concept sketches of my take of what a next gen "Retro" Camaro may look like :


Next gen sketch 1 (http://community.webshots.com/photo/16734934/127499001jsyXKO)

Sketch 2 (http://community.webshots.com/photo/16734934/127499384kZJJnR)

I originally posted these here a while back (with mixed responses - most people seem to prefer a 1st gen based retro design) but I still believe a next gen Camaro based on 2nd gen styling cues would look cool :)

i personally like the 69 first gen, L98 3rd gens, and LS1 4th gens. 2nd gens don't do anything for me

Hell I like them both. Just give me a camaro that doesn't look like a GTO and I'm happy.:D

Raven, thanks for posting them again. They look better than i remembered:bow: That thing just looks bad ass

Thanks dude :)

Chris that car kick major a$$! :thumb: :thumb:

I love the 1st gen idea better myself, but everybodys taste is different.

Why not a Trans Am concept too?
GM would have to have a Pontiac model too...

I dont see why your couldnt be applied to a more modern, conservative look. A smoother line here, taller here, more interior space there, BAM you got a 5th gen.

I mean com'on. My car has a big hump in the passenger floorboard

GM if your listening...I am fine with a 'proverbial hump' in my 'floorboard' just give me an agressive, semi-retro Camaro and you got my sale. I would put my car up for sale tomorrow if a retro Z28 hit the showroom.

I know with the GTO they went really conservative with it (blah)

Goes to show they are looking for a new-age look, with just a hint of retro.

To me the only thing "GTO" about the new GTO is the name and partly the front end. Other than that its just another grand am with a V8 to me.

When I think of GTO, I think "big block" and "heavy" and "massive".

When I see the new GTO NONE of these words cross my mind.

I wish they would have went with a wider looking stance, and closer to the old GTO (a retro '67 grill would kick butt), with a rear end closer to the old GTO too. (you know, wider and more muscular looking)
It needs a rear end that takes 18"x10" wheels to fill the rear wheelwell.

Although, I guess GM is just testing the waters with the GTO to see if there is any interest in the retro market and will hopefully take the retro look a step further, when a new generation is made.

Again, Chris, Nice job andkeep it up. You have contributed to the race for a new Z.

-Chris Stone

But they didnt go retro enough, just a tad more would have done it for me, but thats just me.

http://www.popularhotrodding.com/features/0409phr_camaro/

Well It looks like it's happening.

http://www.uberchad.net/albums/chad/nextgencamaro.sized.jpg

http://www.uberchad.net/albums/chad/comaroz28.sized.jpg

I'm new to the crowd but here's a little something I cooked up a while back.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/NewCam.jpg

I'm new to the crowd but here's a little something I cooked up a while back.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/NewCam.jpg
Holy Chevy Continental batman! :eek: :D

I like it :thumb: Great work.

That is a good lookin' car. The front end is pretty cool, alot different from any other design thus far. I think the fog lights should be split out wider though. Also think there is too much of a roll off with the rear end of the car, but I guess there's really no way around this with the overall design of the car:). Great Work :D

http://www.ls1camaro.net/freehosting/07camaro2.jpg

I'm new to the crowd but here's a little something I cooked up a while back.
http://img.villagephotos.com/p/2004-3/687350/NewCam.jpg
dude that is awesome, too bad chevy would never let us have a car that exotic. :(

http://www.uberchad.net/albums/chad/nextgencamaro.sized.jpg

http://www.uberchad.net/albums/chad/comaroz28.sized.jpg
if chevy ever went retro with the Camaro, that one takes the cake, just look at the stance... :eek:

To me the only thing "GTO" about the new GTO is the name and partly the front end. Other than that its just another grand am with a V8 to me.

When I think of GTO, I think "big block" and "heavy" and "massive".

When I see the new GTO NONE of these words cross my mind.



There has never ben a GTO with a "big block" from the factory. The traditional Pontiac V8 (389, 400, and 455) used in the original GTO isn't a "big block."

The 2005 GTO weighs 3725 lbs. About 600 pounds more than a 1964 GTO

The 2005 GTO is 189.8 inches long and 72.5 inches wide. That's about a foot shorter, but only about an inch and a half narrower than a 1964 GTO.

Guess looks are deceiving :)

There has never ben a GTO with a "big block" from the factory. The traditional Pontiac V8 (389, 400, and 455) used in the original GTO isn't a "big block."

The 2005 GTO weighs 3725 lbs. About 600 pounds more than a 1964 GTO

The 2005 GTO is 189.8 inches long and 72.5 inches wide. That's about a foot shorter, but only about an inch and a half narrower than a 1964 GTO.

Guess looks are deceiving :)

I know, I owned a '79 T/A & researched a lot of old Pontiac/Olds info..

Just said thats what comes to mind :)

Most people think that too.

And what I meant by wider, I posted in my earlier post:

It needs a rear end that takes 18"x10" wheels to fill the rear wheelwell.

But that's just me. I have since changed my opinion on the new GTO..it's exactly what the original GTO was supposed to be...& you older guys know exactly what I'm talking about...

EDIT: to add something, I have since rode in one..a buddy of mine got a Torch(?) Red '04 and its awesome...perfect for a guy with a 4th Gen stripper who needs a daily driver with attitude....
But it still doesnt instill those words I mentioned..but that's because I know the old GTO from looking at it in retrospect.

It makes me think "Sleek", "Elegant", "Refined", "Secret", & "Surprise motha f*cka"

Damn sweet car.

I know, I owned a '79 T/A & researched a lot of old Pontiac/Olds info..

Just said thats what comes to mind :)

Most people think that too.

And what I meant by wider, I posted in my earlier post:



But that's just me. I have since changed my opinion on the new GTO..it's exactly what the original GTO was supposed to be...& you older guys know exactly what I'm talking about...

EDIT: to add something, I have since rode in one..a buddy of mine got a Torch(?) Red '04 and its awesome...perfect for a guy with a 4th Gen stripper who needs a daily driver with attitude....
But it still doesnt instill those words I mentioned..but that's because I know the old GTO from looking at it in retrospect.

It makes me think "Sleek", "Elegant", "Refined", "Secret", & "Surprise motha f*cka"

Damn sweet car.

I wasn't trying to bust on ya really, Stone, I do think the eye can be deceiving. The new GTO looks smaller than it is, and with the 2005 is approaching the original on cubes and far exceeds it on power. I just wish it were a little cheaper so I could afford one!

I wasn't trying to bust on ya really, Stone, I do think the eye can be deceiving. The new GTO looks smaller than it is, and with the 2005 is approaching the original on cubes and far exceeds it on power. I just wish it were a little cheaper so I could afford one!

Well I know we're off-topic, but I think it's bad azz. Even if it were cheaper, I would still not buy it, but that's only because right now I'm leaning towards a 00-02 GM RC-SWB truck for some good daily driving, with the option to haul & tow once I get a good liner in it. Either that or an old beater, I dunno.

If I was in the market for luxery, I'd be leaning towards a GTO or some sort of V6 'Vert with some punch to it...dont know what that would be but my sis just got a 40th Anny Stang 'Vert & I've been driving it for the last couple days...me want one. Not a stang, but a Vert. Even a Stang would be cool if the price was cheaper than my other options, but it's not. Im deciding on either a GM truck, or a 2 door 'Vert sports car with a V6 or a good mpg V8. Still going back and forth because when I talk to my buddy with a 5.3 RCSWB, I get all giddy thinking of a cammed, stalled 5.3L, but on the other hand, I should be more practical & get a V6 Vert. ???Dunno, hard choice to make..

At this point,I wont be surprised if GM makes a FWD Supercharged ecotec 4 cylinder in the new Camaro :(

If you go to www.cheersandgeers.com it says that the Zeta program has been cancelled entirely... :(

So what of the new Camaro then?

Yeah, but have you seen this one?

http://www.vizualsoft.com/lee/camaroconcept.jpg

Link dont work

heres a few photoshops
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368464

can u host them anywhere else so i dont have to sign up?

can someone post rear end pics?
Thanks

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaro8nb.jpg

heres a few photoshops
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368464

Something...familiar...about those. ;)

Kris

heres a few photoshops
http://ls1tech.com/forums/showthread.php?t=368464

I'll Take one in black please. :bow:

:bow: cool car fellow

I think it looks like garbage. No offense.

http://img381.imageshack.us/my.php?image=camaro8nb.jpg

looks like it was made with icing for a cake

UMM...I think that was a cake! Strawberry probably!