will this rim fit my car with no rubbing

duckhead4life
06-05-2003, 11:04 AM
ok this is what i was thinking about geting and i need to know if it will fit will no rubbing. i want to go with 19x10's oz racing superleggeras all the way around with 36 offset up front and 50 in the rear along with eibach sportline springs my question is will this combo fit without rubbing and if it wont what is the biggest rim i can run with no rubbing(and i need the offset too). and also what is the widest tire i can fit on there too without rubbing. i know a lot of guys probably think 19 inch wheels are way to big. but i love the way big wheels look on camaros. thanks for all the help guys

quick
06-05-2003, 12:25 PM
I don't know if they would rub. The offset and widths seem okay. I would suggest to you that a wheel that large will require a tire with a very small aspect ratio, like 30, so that your wheel/tire diameter stays in the range that the stock 275-40-17s have. Tires w such low sidewalls do have a few problems--they do not protect the rim if you hit anything, meaning rims get damaged often (and those OZs are very expensive); they may turn in well, but there is no sidewall to scrunch so you lose straight line acceleration as the tires should break loose more quickly than a tire with more sidewall (Formula 1 cars, for example, run a nice, thick sidewall, so they can accelerate well; they do of course cheat by having lots of cornering downforce that our cars do not have); and tires and wheels are much more expensive when you get bigger.

For road course handling purposes, I am told by one who knows on the board that you can hardly beat a 275-40-17 Victoracer on a 17 X 10 if you want to avoid mods that may make your car less streetable. To go to 17 X 11s, for example, you must begin making the car less streetable by having to roll fenders and/or tubbing the car, filing steering knuckles, etc.

You need to decide if you are more for looks or performance, and how much you want to mod the car to get to your goal. Perhaps some other tire gurus will weigh in.

Steve in Seattle
06-05-2003, 06:05 PM
yep, that's gonna be one heavy wheel.

To keep you around 26" diameter, the size you'll probably be looking at is: 285/30ZR19

They won't be cheap, but good rubber rarely is at these size-extremes. TireRack has 5 to choose from: http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compare1.jsp?startIndex=0&width=285%2F&ratio=30&diameter=19&search=true&pagelen=20&pagenum=1&pagemark=1

Steve in Seattle
06-05-2003, 06:28 PM
Originally posted by quick
To go to 17 X 11s, for example, you must begin making the car less streetable by having to roll fenders and/or tubbing the car, filing steering knuckles, etc.
Only if you bought a chevy. ;) Even then it's not so bad. It's not the rims, it's the tires that cause problems with rubbing in that case.

My chromed ZR1 rims fit perfect under my T/A. No massaging needing inside (because of the 36mm offset), and no fender lip rolling due to the extra "hips" on the TA, and the fact that I'm running 285's on them (for now at least) helps a bit too. I'll be going to 315's when Nitto releases the 555R-II in that size later this year, but for now the 285's are AWESOME for handling.

The only catch with stretching the tire out this much is the rim guard is useless... I nicked a curb in a parking lot two days after mounting the rims... nice little road rash on 3" of the outer edge of the rim. :( 315's probably wouldn't have had that problem... the good news is that the aluminum underneath won't rust and make the chrome look too bad (like chromed steel rims), but "I" know it's there... I hate parking lots. :mad:

Stretching the tires a bit is good for stiffening the sidewall, and I doubt anyone here has stretched it more than mine :), but I wouldn't go too extreme or even 17" rims become less streetable with the exposed wheel rim since curbes are just high enough to start causing problems. For race rubber? absolutely... check out how much NASCAR or F1 cars's sidewalls stick out pastg the rims... they usually don't. Most have a nice big sidewall to keep weight down and sidewall flex in transistions... but they don't "bulge" the tire out when mounting from what I recall.

In my old 16" chrome wheels I SERIOUSLY curbed the rear a few times after just buyuing the car... never any rim damage, just rubbed sidewalls and a bruised ego. If you want streetable, 16's are perfect, if you want to go bigger, you'll need to remember you're not driving a truck and be careful where you point the wheels ;) ... at 19" rims you're gonna need to watch for pot holes, speed bumps, and driveways as well... or you'll be paying big bux to repair/replace them on a regular basis.

My 17x11's are summer wheels, I've got 2 more 17x.9.5's to use in the winter/rainy season (due to the width of 315's and puddles of water :)). but I'd never race on them... I'd go to race rubber mounted on my 16's instead... racing will put them at risk for nicks, scratches, and worse... on a regular basis.

duckhead4life
06-05-2003, 08:57 PM
why couldn't i put a slightly larger tire on the rims because i have a hypertech controller so all i have to do is adjust it. right. or will this combo cause me to start rubbing.

duckhead4life
06-05-2003, 09:01 PM
and oh by the way the rims are no theat heavy i found out that the rims in 18x9 only weight like 18 pds. so i am figuring 19x10 couldnt possibly be that much heavier. but i think i can live with a thin side wall. if i am forced to live with the 30 series tire