Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S???
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Re: Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S???
The proxes are cheapest. I'm not really concerned about the price diff in those two I want the quieter and better performing tire assuming those aren't polar opposites.
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Re: Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S???
Originally Posted by Diggs
Funny, I just had Toyo Proxes 4's in 225/45 R17 put on my Saab on Monday. I bought them from www.tiredealsforless.com
I thought they'd ship them in boxes. Nope, they tape 2 tires together and that's how they come. Arrived in good shape though.
The OEM for my Saab were Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's in the same size.
Pirelli's:
-Only lasted 20k miles. Front were shot at 10k and rotated at 12k (I'm a dumbass, should've done it earlier). The rears lasted another 8k at the front before I just couldn't take the tires anymore and I babied them for those 8k. Rears were almost slicks at that point.
-Awesome the first 5k miles or so, after that they went down hill fast. Great autocross tire of you ever needed one. Can't say I recommend them for daily driving.
-Loud as all hell after 5k
-Harsher than a mother****er after 5k
-Worst tire ever in snow
-Very stiff sidewall. Exudes confidence in corners. Great grip when they have tread.
Toyos'
-Muuuuch cheaper
-Much softer. My kidneys don't hurt as bad after driving now.
-much less road noise
-Sidewall is certainly softer. Not as inspiring into corners, but that was a tradeoff I had to make at the price point of the tires.
-Cool tread pattern
-Z rated even though I'll never reach high speed is a plus
-would certainly recommend them
I thought they'd ship them in boxes. Nope, they tape 2 tires together and that's how they come. Arrived in good shape though.
The OEM for my Saab were Pirelli P-Zero Rosso's in the same size.
Pirelli's:
-Only lasted 20k miles. Front were shot at 10k and rotated at 12k (I'm a dumbass, should've done it earlier). The rears lasted another 8k at the front before I just couldn't take the tires anymore and I babied them for those 8k. Rears were almost slicks at that point.
-Awesome the first 5k miles or so, after that they went down hill fast. Great autocross tire of you ever needed one. Can't say I recommend them for daily driving.
-Loud as all hell after 5k
-Harsher than a mother****er after 5k
-Worst tire ever in snow
-Very stiff sidewall. Exudes confidence in corners. Great grip when they have tread.
Toyos'
-Muuuuch cheaper
-Much softer. My kidneys don't hurt as bad after driving now.
-much less road noise
-Sidewall is certainly softer. Not as inspiring into corners, but that was a tradeoff I had to make at the price point of the tires.
-Cool tread pattern
-Z rated even though I'll never reach high speed is a plus
-would certainly recommend them
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Re: Toyo Proxes 4 or Pirelli P Zero Nero M+S???
Originally Posted by 94CamaroZ28
Look at the Dunlop Winter Sport M3 as well, especially if you do dedicated summer tires for nice weather...
Made the Camaro into a snowmobile.
Made the Camaro into a snowmobile.
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