I've read good reviews about the Sumitomo HTRZ's from tirerack and was wondering if anyone had any personal experience with them? I was thinking of getting them as my next tire because of the good reviews and the price.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tires....e1=yes&place=0

 

I have the HTRZ II and love them. GREAT price and very attractive tread pattern/sidewall.

 

Mediocre tires. At least they tested to be better than the Kumho 712, but not by much.

I don't get why people spend a lot of $ to mod their car to make more power and mod it to make it handle better only to go cheap on the only parts of the car to contact the ground. W/out good tires, you won't take off as quick, stop as short, or handle as well.

It may be a "GOOD tire for the money," but I'll guarantee it'll limit what your car could be doing.

 

The HTRZ & HTRZ II are two different tires and I would NOT call the HTRZ II a mediocre tire.

 

Seeing how the link is to an HTRZ not the II, whats your point? Even the II is a "middle of the road" performance tire which would mean mediocre or moderate in my book. Really though, how much can you expect out of a $100 275-40-17 sized tire? Now the Kumho 712, I would say is marginal. They are better than stock, but not much.

Spend a little more cash and you can have a better tire that'll allow your car to perform better instead of limiting it. Thats been my experiences with budget tires and why I've sworn off of them. I'm in no way saying you have to buy the most expensive either. Look at how much the OE GY F1's cost and how crappy they are.

 

Actually, I was looking at those in a 245/50/16 size. I need new tires to replace my crappy GY Eagle RS-A stockers [and those things cost $195 a peice new!]. Then I want to either get a set of TT2's or WS6's and then get some better tires for those. Right now, I just need to get rid of those junk GY's.

 

Why not buy used if you're just wanting to get by?

 

Used tires are like someones dog crap, no one wants it. My opinion.

 

Some pepole just don't want to spend the money and some others have no need. Just because a guy owns a Camaro that makes pretty good power doesn't mean that you are running it hard all of the time. I have HTRZ's and have nothing bad to say about them. I went with them when I got my new rims because they were CHEAP and I didn't need expensive tires. I drive my car about 300 miles a year. This year, I probably drove it about 50 miles. Why would I spend $1000.00 on tires when I don't drive my car any more than that?

 

W/ only $300 miles/year good tires would last a long time and do better when you are driving the car.

You don't have to spend $1k on tires to get good tires. You can get a set of BFG KDW that'll outperform the Sumi for $664 in 275-40-17 at tirerack. Doesn't look like a gran to me.

I guaranteed I can find cheaper but that was the first place I looked. So much for your $1000 set of tires. Just as an example I got a set of 2 brand new BFG KD tires for ~$240 shipped to my door. That comes up to $120/tire, so I could have gotten a complete set for $480. Tirerack will ship a set of your HTR tires for ~$392. Wow, $88 more is really breaking the bank for a much better tire. This is all on the 275-40-17, so it'll be cheaper to get 16's.

As far as used tires being dog crap... I've seen some nice deals on good tires in the local section of the LS forums. I wasn't talking about going to "Bubba's Used Tire and Tobacco" to get worn out generic crap. Even then, when I was tight on cash I got a pair of F1's from a shop with a couple hundered miles on them for $120 mounted and balanced.

If you had an M6 would you run a weak clutch that was prone to slippage because it was cheaper or would you spend the cash and buy one that held the power? Your tires you are choosing will hinder your performance in more ways than a weak clutch yet you want to cut corners here?

 

There's a reason why there so cheap in price and I'm not talking about the tread life either. Spend a tad bit more you'll get better tires.

 

I really like the tires. I like to have fun driving my car, and I am not actively competing in the open road racing circuit, so I don't feel the need to spend a fortune on tires.

Like I said, I like to have fun with my car, and if some old man at a cruise tells me to light em up, I don't feel remorseful about doing so like I would if I had an $1800 set of super duper supreme tires. :blah: I don't need Pilot Sports or <insert premium tire here> to cruise around on the weekends with on the street.

 

Read my post. $88 more than Discount's listed price for the HTRZ and I could have a full set of BFG KD. Ya, thats $1800 super duper tires. Its funny how inflated people like to get these prices to justify their purchase.

There is also a difference in view point. I buy tires to hook up, ie. provide traction, better braking, NOT SPIN. You apparently buy tires to spin.

 

In other words, double the price.

I buy my tires to drive on and play around with, not to spend large amounts of money to have tires that 'hook up' and wear faster, and cost more for the same mileage. I'm not racing on the track, open course or drag strip. When I do, I'll have the appropriate tires. When I'm driving on the street I have no desire to tear up high dollar tires like I'm going to win a race at Laguna Seca.

Not to mention a friend of mine crashed his Z28 during a simple emergency lane change on KDs. Yeah, he was pissed that his supertires didn't stick for sh** and actually didn't hold up to a simple lane change with NO braking. Car pulled in front of him at the last minute, he changed lanes, got loose and the car went around. Amazing tires let me tell ya.

 

i use my car for weekend fun and aggressive driving. no track use

i regret getting ****ty tires even though I only use the car for the above uses