LS1 speed
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LS1 speed
Has anyone ever had there car tuned at ls1 speed.Do they diagnose any problems,or do you just tell them what to do and they do it.My trans is acting up,and I doubt they will find my problem from trouble codes.. Mike
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Re: LS1 speed
Originally posted by 5H9D0W
Has anyone ever had there car tuned at ls1 speed.Do they diagnose any problems,or do you just tell them what to do and they do it.My trans is acting up,and I doubt they will find my problem from trouble codes.. Mike
Has anyone ever had there car tuned at ls1 speed.Do they diagnose any problems,or do you just tell them what to do and they do it.My trans is acting up,and I doubt they will find my problem from trouble codes.. Mike
If u are on a budget, I'm sure u could find someone on this board who would spend some time with u crusing with a laptop and scanning.
Do u know if ur trans is mechanically malfunctioning or is a programming issue?
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I went there last month with a couple of buddies. They are really nice guys and know what they are doing. One of my friends had his car dyno tuned, it was $450. They did rockers and valve springs for the other guy I was with, great deal on that labor... I just had them dyno my car to see what it would do.
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Just a thought. Since you are in South Holland have you ever thought about going to FLP in Naperville. One of their specialties is transmissions.
Not that Speed Inc can't help. I know all the guys there and my car will be there next Monday for dyno tuning (Jim is the shiznit). But I was just thinking of cutting some distance down for ya.
Not that Speed Inc can't help. I know all the guys there and my car will be there next Monday for dyno tuning (Jim is the shiznit). But I was just thinking of cutting some distance down for ya.
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WARNING!.....
STAY AWAY FROM SPEED INC AS FAR AS YOU CAN......
i had nothing against tom or larry from the start.....
they always had time to discuss things and let me know whats goin on until they installed my heads and cam.....
so i go to see my car and the horror started.... its a good thing i have a vizage body kit because they nicely place it on the jack and broke the seals and scratched the F U C K out of it...
but that was just the start....
then i get the car back and it ticks more then normal, and the oil pressure was a little lower but i just figured it was normal from an slp ported oil pump.
then i got an ses light which they said was normal after a cam swap
i was gonna autotap it but oh guess what my pcm wouldnt allow me to connect after they tuned it.... and also i was loosing power on my battery laptop cuz i couldnt plug it in into the ciggerte lighters which they made inoperable as well as my nitrous switches....
so then 60 miles later after light driving and no Nittrous i started hearing a knocking noise that was even louder then when i got it back...
so i called them and took it in first thing in the morning and they said they would take it apart and look at it......later that day i stopped by and my car hasnt been touched, so then some speed inc techs came out and listened to it and said that it was the bottom end and it looked like a spun bearing.....
ok so worst comes to worst my motor was taken apart and inspected by a well known engine shop and they said something mettalic defintly got into it....i also had many others look at it and they said that something definetly got into it...
then we take out the head studs they installed and one of them had the wrench broken off in it
that was lots of fun to get out... they over torqued everything.....i stripped a header bolt with a socket wrench...(which i thought to be impossible)....probably because i needed to use a 3 foot breaker bar to even loosen the bolts slightly...
and they pounded on my crank timing gear with a screwdriver and it had huge gauges out of it and they missed a couple times and took away some of my crank as well.... they used a prybar to get my pulley off ...high quality workmanship right there...
i can go on for days about the minor details they messed up but i think this is sufficient and you guys can learn from my mistakes...or just one mistake(ever going to speed inc)
my fellow fbod buddies will never go there again...
id like to end this with a have a nice day and dont EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go to SPEED INC to get work done
my car
STAY AWAY FROM SPEED INC AS FAR AS YOU CAN......
i had nothing against tom or larry from the start.....
they always had time to discuss things and let me know whats goin on until they installed my heads and cam.....
so i go to see my car and the horror started.... its a good thing i have a vizage body kit because they nicely place it on the jack and broke the seals and scratched the F U C K out of it...
but that was just the start....
then i get the car back and it ticks more then normal, and the oil pressure was a little lower but i just figured it was normal from an slp ported oil pump.
then i got an ses light which they said was normal after a cam swap
i was gonna autotap it but oh guess what my pcm wouldnt allow me to connect after they tuned it.... and also i was loosing power on my battery laptop cuz i couldnt plug it in into the ciggerte lighters which they made inoperable as well as my nitrous switches....so then 60 miles later after light driving and no Nittrous i started hearing a knocking noise that was even louder then when i got it back...
so i called them and took it in first thing in the morning and they said they would take it apart and look at it......later that day i stopped by and my car hasnt been touched, so then some speed inc techs came out and listened to it and said that it was the bottom end and it looked like a spun bearing.....
ok so worst comes to worst my motor was taken apart and inspected by a well known engine shop and they said something mettalic defintly got into it....i also had many others look at it and they said that something definetly got into it...
then we take out the head studs they installed and one of them had the wrench broken off in it
that was lots of fun to get out... they over torqued everything.....i stripped a header bolt with a socket wrench...(which i thought to be impossible)....probably because i needed to use a 3 foot breaker bar to even loosen the bolts slightly...and they pounded on my crank timing gear with a screwdriver and it had huge gauges out of it and they missed a couple times and took away some of my crank as well.... they used a prybar to get my pulley off
...high quality workmanship right there...i can go on for days about the minor details they messed up but i think this is sufficient and you guys can learn from my mistakes...or just one mistake(ever going to speed inc)
my fellow fbod buddies will never go there again...
id like to end this with a have a nice day and dont EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER EVER go to SPEED INC to get work done
my car
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I personally never had any problems with speed inc, but know several people that have. I've been in their shop before and talked to their techs and wasn't really impressed
here is a few things i picked up from a local board...
NUMBER 1
Yeah, the last couple times I've had mods there I've had some issues. Tom and Larry are always really cool about making things right, but some of the problems just shouldn't happen.
Example:
they cut off all of my locking lugnuts to get my wheels off my car without attempting to call me to see were the lug key was (it was in the car in the center console). I am sure they have my work and home numbers, and my e-mail address - I'm not that hard to contact.
On top of that, they didn't even bother putting regular lugs back in place of the locking lug nuts they cut off.They just bolted my wheels back on with 4 lugnuts instead of five.
What disappoints me the most is they didn't even tell me of the situation when I picked my car up! I drove all the way home from Schaumburg to with a lugnut missing from each wheel (!) I only found out about the missing lugnuts when I went to put my chrome caps back on.
I called Speed Inc. and they said they would replace the locking lugnuts, which is fine. But the point is that the situation never should have happened, and I should have been informed of the problem from the start. They should never had let my car be picked up with a lugnut missing from each wheel.
-Bradster
NUMBER 2
I took my car there for A trans Diagnoses. My mom called to get some more info after they were done.
They automatically assumed that it was messed up and really didn't dig deep.
They told my mom that I beat the crap out of my car and that is why my transmission went out. My mom said "no, he babies his car" Then I think it was Larry told her "thats what you think, Thats what I told my mom too." Implying that I am a liar.
NUMBER 3
1134
posted February 24, 2003 09:34 AM
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I had my Hookers and ORP installed by them last summer, and I was pleased over-all, but I also saw some things that concerned me.
While I was waiting for my car, I saw one of the employees open somebody's car door right into someone elses car I mean $hit happens, but if you PAY ATTENTION to what you are doing, the chances of something happening are greatly reduced.
On to the header install:
I am the kind of guy that doesn't trust ANYBODY, so the first thing I did when I got home was drive the car up on ramps and double check some things. I installed new plugs, just in case they might have dropped one and screwed up the gap. I checked all the connections and bolts. The P.S. O2 sensor was only hand tight at best. It was moving around in the header bung. I had to tighten it myself. They also did a pretty good job at scraping up the D.S header. There are a couple spots where the Jet Hot coating was completely scraped off
They are completely capable of doing a good job and taking their time to do the job RIGHT, but just like many other business', when they get bigger it then becomes more about the dollar and not so much about the quality of work being done. They want to get as many cars in and out as possible.
Paul
i can take up multiple pages with this but im sure you get the point, some of this stuff is common sense.
here is a few things i picked up from a local board...
NUMBER 1
Yeah, the last couple times I've had mods there I've had some issues. Tom and Larry are always really cool about making things right, but some of the problems just shouldn't happen.
Example:
they cut off all of my locking lugnuts to get my wheels off my car without attempting to call me to see were the lug key was (it was in the car in the center console). I am sure they have my work and home numbers, and my e-mail address - I'm not that hard to contact.
On top of that, they didn't even bother putting regular lugs back in place of the locking lug nuts they cut off.They just bolted my wheels back on with 4 lugnuts instead of five.
What disappoints me the most is they didn't even tell me of the situation when I picked my car up! I drove all the way home from Schaumburg to with a lugnut missing from each wheel (!) I only found out about the missing lugnuts when I went to put my chrome caps back on.
I called Speed Inc. and they said they would replace the locking lugnuts, which is fine. But the point is that the situation never should have happened, and I should have been informed of the problem from the start. They should never had let my car be picked up with a lugnut missing from each wheel.
-Bradster
NUMBER 2
I took my car there for A trans Diagnoses. My mom called to get some more info after they were done.
They automatically assumed that it was messed up and really didn't dig deep.
They told my mom that I beat the crap out of my car and that is why my transmission went out. My mom said "no, he babies his car" Then I think it was Larry told her "thats what you think, Thats what I told my mom too." Implying that I am a liar.
NUMBER 3
1134
posted February 24, 2003 09:34 AM
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I had my Hookers and ORP installed by them last summer, and I was pleased over-all, but I also saw some things that concerned me.
While I was waiting for my car, I saw one of the employees open somebody's car door right into someone elses car I mean $hit happens, but if you PAY ATTENTION to what you are doing, the chances of something happening are greatly reduced.
On to the header install:
I am the kind of guy that doesn't trust ANYBODY, so the first thing I did when I got home was drive the car up on ramps and double check some things. I installed new plugs, just in case they might have dropped one and screwed up the gap. I checked all the connections and bolts. The P.S. O2 sensor was only hand tight at best. It was moving around in the header bung. I had to tighten it myself. They also did a pretty good job at scraping up the D.S header. There are a couple spots where the Jet Hot coating was completely scraped off
They are completely capable of doing a good job and taking their time to do the job RIGHT, but just like many other business', when they get bigger it then becomes more about the dollar and not so much about the quality of work being done. They want to get as many cars in and out as possible.
Paul
i can take up multiple pages with this but im sure you get the point, some of this stuff is common sense.
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I hate hearing things like this about a shop that I thought did competent work and that I thought cared about its customers and not just their $$$.
I guess if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.
I guess if you want something done right you have to do it yourself.
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I have also had SEVERAL problems with LS1 Speed. They sold me damaged, used rear end gears, and lied to me about their quality and make. They also sold me damaged Relocation Brackets and screwed up some of my internet orders.
I made these statements on a similar thread, to which Jon from LS1 speed replied. The remarks i got from them were very snotty.
Jon told me it a sarcastic way that i should inspect the gears before i signed for them hmmmm considering i bought them IN the store and Tom AND Larry told me in person that the gears were fine.
With my RLBs, his excuse was, "its not our fault the RLBs came damaged from the factory." To this i replied, "no its not ur fault, but i also work in customer service. If we sell a customer a bad product, we say sorry and take it back, we don't tell them, 'not our fault, take it up with the manufacturer"
I also know an insider at LS1 speed who tells me all the nasty details of their MANY screw ups. It's too bad...They are a local shop with great prices and a good dyno...It's too bad the way their customer service works and how they treat their customers...
I made these statements on a similar thread, to which Jon from LS1 speed replied. The remarks i got from them were very snotty.
Jon told me it a sarcastic way that i should inspect the gears before i signed for them
hmmmm considering i bought them IN the store and Tom AND Larry told me in person that the gears were fine.With my RLBs, his excuse was, "its not our fault the RLBs came damaged from the factory." To this i replied, "no its not ur fault, but i also work in customer service. If we sell a customer a bad product, we say sorry and take it back, we don't tell them, 'not our fault, take it up with the manufacturer"
I also know an insider at LS1 speed who tells me all the nasty details of their MANY screw ups. It's too bad...They are a local shop with great prices and a good dyno...It's too bad the way their customer service works and how they treat their customers...
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yeah but i have been i there a few times and it seems like tom and lerry just mope around. OH and when ya say hi to them no response back WTF is up with that. but they have the best prices around so i still go there for parts.
JIM
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Ive had my many problems as well...
#1 after installing my LG motorsports power slot rotors they must have forgotten to tighten a bolt, which lead to my rotor falling off while driving and ripping the **** out of the indside of the wheel and ****ing the calpier up.....another brake problem was they messed up my abs unit somehow and it leaked brake fuily like crazy....under 3 mintues and all fuild would be gone. (unit is $1200 from chevy)
#2 I had a TNT wet nitrous sytem installed... i tried turning the system on and there were 3 leak from where the briaded hoses connect and the worst leak was off of my fuel rail....leaking fuel all of my block and leaking down by the coil packs...good thing my car didnt blow up although this didnt take too long to fix it pissed my off that "one of the midwests best domestic shop" couldnt tighten some lines.
THey do some good work, but I will not trust another shop with parts, all installs will be done by me and a couple friends, after working of thsese cars we can pretty much do anything from a torque arm to a engine swap and save tons of money on install...if anyone here needed some parts intsalled stik6shift98 and some friends can do it for a fraction of the cost a shop would charge, im not sure how much time he has now b/c of many many problems he has with his car
#1 after installing my LG motorsports power slot rotors they must have forgotten to tighten a bolt, which lead to my rotor falling off while driving and ripping the **** out of the indside of the wheel and ****ing the calpier up.....another brake problem was they messed up my abs unit somehow and it leaked brake fuily like crazy....under 3 mintues and all fuild would be gone. (unit is $1200 from chevy)
#2 I had a TNT wet nitrous sytem installed... i tried turning the system on and there were 3 leak from where the briaded hoses connect and the worst leak was off of my fuel rail....leaking fuel all of my block and leaking down by the coil packs...good thing my car didnt blow up although this didnt take too long to fix it pissed my off that "one of the midwests best domestic shop" couldnt tighten some lines.
THey do some good work, but I will not trust another shop with parts, all installs will be done by me and a couple friends, after working of thsese cars we can pretty much do anything from a torque arm to a engine swap and save tons of money on install...if anyone here needed some parts intsalled stik6shift98 and some friends can do it for a fraction of the cost a shop would charge, im not sure how much time he has now b/c of many many problems he has with his car
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The quote about me beating on my car was mine.
But seriously, he wasn't really a jerk or anything, its just something that shouldn't have been said or assumed. Especially since it wasn't true.
Anyway I have had really good luck with FLP. Chuck really knows his stuff on transmissions. He helped me choose what I needed and went way out of his way to help me get my car back. He waited a half hour after they closed because I was stuck in a snowstorm. I was very excited to get my car back. The transmission shifts perfect also.
Price was excellent also.
Go there.
But seriously, he wasn't really a jerk or anything, its just something that shouldn't have been said or assumed. Especially since it wasn't true.
Anyway I have had really good luck with FLP. Chuck really knows his stuff on transmissions. He helped me choose what I needed and went way out of his way to help me get my car back. He waited a half hour after they closed because I was stuck in a snowstorm. I was very excited to get my car back. The transmission shifts perfect also.
Price was excellent also.
Go there.
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just a word of advice stay away and what u dont do yourself dont expect to be done right.....
and as stik00 said if u need help with something pm me and i will hook you up....the good part is u can watch what is done and that way u will be sure its done right.....
and as stik00 said if u need help with something pm me and i will hook you up....the good part is u can watch what is done and that way u will be sure its done right.....
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WARNING!.....
STAY AWAY FROM SPEED INC AS FAR AS YOU CAN......
i had nothing against tom or larry from the start.....
they always had time to discuss things and let me know whats goin on until they installed my heads and cam.....
so i go to see my car and the horror started.... its a good thing i have a vizage body kit because they nicely place it on the jack and broke the seals and scratched the F U C K out of it...
but that was just the start....
-Half of your body kit was broken off the car and laying on the ground-
then i get the car back and it ticks more then normal, and the oil pressure was a little lower but i just figured it was normal from an slp ported oil pump.
-You will get more valvetrain noise after a cam install. Your oil pressure was the same before and after the install.-
then i got an ses light which they said was normal after a cam swap i was gonna autotap it but oh guess what my pcm wouldnt allow me to connect after they tuned it.... and also i was loosing power on my battery laptop cuz i couldnt plug it in into the ciggerte lighters which they made inoperable as well as my nitrous switches....
- We fixed your shifter for free. I'm not suprised that your hack wiring didn't work afterwords. Ever hear of solder and heat shrink tubing? Twisting wires together is not acceptable 'wiring'. Also, I thought it was a nice touch that your neon light wiring was attached to the suspension-
so then 60 miles later after light driving and no Nittrous i started hearing a knocking noise that was even louder then when i got it back...
-There was no knocking noise when you left. Your car spun a bearing plain and simple. Nothing that we did was the cause of your engine failure.-
so i called them and took it in first thing in the morning and they said they would take it apart and look at it......later that day i stopped by and my car hasnt been touched, so then some speed inc techs came out and listened to it and said that it was the bottom end and it looked like a spun bearing.....
- We said we would diagnose the problem. After listening to the engine run we knew what the problem was and disassembly was not necessary for diagnosis.-
ok so worst comes to worst my motor was taken apart and inspected by a well known engine shop and they said something mettalic defintly got into it....i also had many others look at it and they said that something definetly got into it...
-That last statement makes absolutely no sense. Can you think of anything metallic that we would purposely (or not) get in your engine? Not to mention, anything that is in the engine has to get past the oil filter before it reaches the bearings. There was no contamination, but IF there was, and IF it made it past the filter, bearings are tri metal and designed for embedability. It is impossible for 'metal contamination' to cause a spun bearing. The only thing that will cause a spun bearing is over revving and a lack of lubrication. My guess is your engine went because of your driving style and lack of proper maintenance.-
You try and make it seem like your car came into our shop in perfect condition. Some low mileage unabused virgin car. Truth of the matter is, the car was hacked more than any other 4th gen I've ever seen. Body kit broken and hanging on the ground, so much wiring, LED's, neons, etc, that I can't believe you never had to use your fire extinguisher. When we dissasembled the car for the cam, half the bolts were missing, and the other half were falling out. You laughed when we told you about it. The motor that you then installed in your car from a good running vehicle that you inspected, blew up within a week of YOU installing it. Does that say anything about the quality of YOUR work, and driving style? I saw you launch your car in reverse in front of our shop when you tried to race your friend. You abuse the hell out of your car and then blame the results on us.
It's time to grow up and take responsibility for your own actions.
-Jim
STAY AWAY FROM SPEED INC AS FAR AS YOU CAN......
i had nothing against tom or larry from the start.....
they always had time to discuss things and let me know whats goin on until they installed my heads and cam.....
so i go to see my car and the horror started.... its a good thing i have a vizage body kit because they nicely place it on the jack and broke the seals and scratched the F U C K out of it...
but that was just the start....
-Half of your body kit was broken off the car and laying on the ground-
then i get the car back and it ticks more then normal, and the oil pressure was a little lower but i just figured it was normal from an slp ported oil pump.
-You will get more valvetrain noise after a cam install. Your oil pressure was the same before and after the install.-
then i got an ses light which they said was normal after a cam swap
i was gonna autotap it but oh guess what my pcm wouldnt allow me to connect after they tuned it.... and also i was loosing power on my battery laptop cuz i couldnt plug it in into the ciggerte lighters which they made inoperable as well as my nitrous switches....- We fixed your shifter for free. I'm not suprised that your hack wiring didn't work afterwords. Ever hear of solder and heat shrink tubing? Twisting wires together is not acceptable 'wiring'. Also, I thought it was a nice touch that your neon light wiring was attached to the suspension-
so then 60 miles later after light driving and no Nittrous i started hearing a knocking noise that was even louder then when i got it back...
-There was no knocking noise when you left. Your car spun a bearing plain and simple. Nothing that we did was the cause of your engine failure.-
so i called them and took it in first thing in the morning and they said they would take it apart and look at it......later that day i stopped by and my car hasnt been touched, so then some speed inc techs came out and listened to it and said that it was the bottom end and it looked like a spun bearing.....
- We said we would diagnose the problem. After listening to the engine run we knew what the problem was and disassembly was not necessary for diagnosis.-
ok so worst comes to worst my motor was taken apart and inspected by a well known engine shop and they said something mettalic defintly got into it....i also had many others look at it and they said that something definetly got into it...
-That last statement makes absolutely no sense. Can you think of anything metallic that we would purposely (or not) get in your engine? Not to mention, anything that is in the engine has to get past the oil filter before it reaches the bearings. There was no contamination, but IF there was, and IF it made it past the filter, bearings are tri metal and designed for embedability. It is impossible for 'metal contamination' to cause a spun bearing. The only thing that will cause a spun bearing is over revving and a lack of lubrication. My guess is your engine went because of your driving style and lack of proper maintenance.-
You try and make it seem like your car came into our shop in perfect condition. Some low mileage unabused virgin car. Truth of the matter is, the car was hacked more than any other 4th gen I've ever seen. Body kit broken and hanging on the ground, so much wiring, LED's, neons, etc, that I can't believe you never had to use your fire extinguisher. When we dissasembled the car for the cam, half the bolts were missing, and the other half were falling out. You laughed when we told you about it. The motor that you then installed in your car from a good running vehicle that you inspected, blew up within a week of YOU installing it. Does that say anything about the quality of YOUR work, and driving style? I saw you launch your car in reverse in front of our shop when you tried to race your friend. You abuse the hell out of your car and then blame the results on us.
It's time to grow up and take responsibility for your own actions.
-Jim