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Old Oct 6, 2002 | 12:03 AM
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woohoo!

For anyone not checking firebirdv6.com...

http://camaro.adwire.com/engine2/engine.html

that happened this afternoon

im so stoked hehe.

stats:
3.4L -> rebuilt by Coast Motor Supply (jerks took forever to do it)
Gen III Aluminum Heads
Gen III Aluminum Intake
RKSport (yes yes i know all the crap about em) ceramic coated headers
Gen III Fuel Rail w/19# injectors.
Gen III FPR

I CANNOT WAIT to fire this baby up

just so everyone knows, I have the data -> the Gen III Aluminum heads flow AS WELL as the heads on Tiago's Turbo'd car, and they are STOCK

cant wait to get an extra set and have them ported/polished. hoping i can get 15's or maybe even high 14's!

o yea, the motor is SO light, i can actually grab it and move it back and forth with just my hand (the aluminum heads really shaved weight)

anyway, ill keep everyone posted on both boards.

-R
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 12:13 AM
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About darn time buddy!!!!

Looked good the other day when I stopped by.....looks even better in the car.
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 12:27 AM
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hmm.... thought I had a the only cool motor with blue on it since I painted the upper intak plenum blue.


go get us osme times with that ****!

jeez all you guys doing great things wiht 3.4:Ls with extoci swaps and prot an polishes and upgraded cams, is killing me!

I don't have the money to compete!
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 01:23 AM
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congrats man....looks damn nice...btw...how much did it cost?
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 01:33 PM
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**** man that looks beautiful...dont get me wrong or anything but i was just curious...for the money why didnt u just swap to a v8... i too have a 3.4 and have thought about doing the same thing just to say its only a six...
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 06:15 PM
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How much $$$$$
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 10:32 PM
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damn..didnt think it'd get this much attention...

um. well. with all the stuff ive done:

eBay
Heads: 50.00
lower intake from a 1996 Grand Am GT: 10.00
Fuel Rail: 35.00

Running Total: 95.00(not including shipping, but that was like an extra 10-15)

Junkyard
Upper Intake from a 1996 Grand Am GT: 50.00
(stupid me didnt get the TB or fuel rail -- i probably could have gotten it for like 40.00 or less)

Running Total: 145.00

www.grandamgt.com
Upper Intake from a 1999+ Grand Am GT: 50.00
TB: 20.00

Running Total: 215.00

Rebuild
Coast Motor Supply: 1163.00

Running Total: 1378.00

The ONLY reason i did the rebuild is because my thrust bearing took a crap. im pretty sure i caused it, just not sure how. neglect i guess. im gonna do my part to take better care of the car, so i dont have to do that ever again. barring the rebuild, the only thing that would have to be changed in the block are pistons, which you can get for like 550.00 from Ross Racing Pistons -- and they will be forged (better for performance) -- the type of pistons you need: pistons from a 1997 or newer 3400 engine - due to the fact that the DISH is bigger in the piston. therefore there is more combustion space, space gained back from the heads decreasing in size.

(heads go from 53cc to 28cc, if you keep the stock 3.4L iron head pistons, your compression ratio goes from like 9.0:1 -> 12.5:1 (sounds like fun but say hello to 101+ octane in your daily driver)

anyway..thats it so far. actually with all the bull**** ive had to purchase, its probably cost me closer to 1800.00 -- and i know. you can get a used LT1 for less than that -- but then you are gonna run into other parts needing to be bought, which will probably run up to the same cost.

thats it so far. o yea, i didnt get a chance to run the car today. had some epiphanies...bad ones.

had to cut off some stuff, and having to fabricate a pipe or two. ill keep everyone posted.
Old Oct 6, 2002 | 11:23 PM
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Re: damn..didnt think it'd get this much attention...

Originally posted by 94Camaro
Coast Motor Supply sucks a fat ****.

......how you ya REALLLLY feel about them????
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 11:34 AM
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UPDATE!

heheh...

http://camaro.adwire.com/el101902.mov

just to note, you NEEED quicktime to view this, and fyi, the clanking on the motor is a pipe that i forgot to bolt down.

just a quick short little movie to show progress

tell me whatcha think.

-R
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 01:43 PM
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man ill give u props on that.....she looks nasty and sounds pretty damn nice... is it open heads right now cause it sounds real throaty... when u get her finally running right i wanna hear her revving...

good job though
never thought a 3.4 could look like that
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 02:02 PM
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danke! heheh..

as for running open heads.. no. headers yea i didnt wanna burn a valve. (if you run open heads you run the risk of burning a valve, to all of you that dont know)

anyway. yea its been a great turnout with actually surprisingly few fabrications/mods. i have a few pics im trying to get posted and when i do that ill pop them up here. i gotta build a site for my baby somewhere on the web heheheh..

-R

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Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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I haven't kept up to much, how much did you fabricate the the part you put on other then exhasut stuff?


Also did you end up doing dtuff with the K-member?
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 05:11 PM
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btw sounds nice, little lumper then my idle, but same deep tone, did you put in a cam?
Old Oct 22, 2002 | 08:13 PM
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Man, is that ever sweet looking. Very very cool, and it sounds and looks great.

I've got a tapping lifter on the passenger-side cylinder bank of my car, and I'm probably going to have to replace the heads sooner rather than later.

I'm wondering if there's a way that I could get away with using those aluminum heads without having to do a total and complete rebuild of the motor. Is there a lower-compression Gen III head?

Old Oct 23, 2002 | 12:50 AM
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its not about compression...

but the answer to that is "no".

<not sure if he stated this before>
basically, the reason compression jumps so much is cause the iron heads have 53cc in the bowl, and the aluminum heads only have 28cc in the bowl (bowl = part where valve seats (the flat part) sit)

the dish in the piston for the iron head is small. coupled with the 53cc bowl, it makes 9.0:1 CR. the dish in the piston for the aluminum head is HUGE. like twice as big as the iron head one, but even with this huge dish, at 28cc, the engine still makes .5 more CR - 9.5:1 CR.

if you wanna go aluminum head, you gotta change the pistons, or wind up with like 12.5:1 CR, and have to run 101 octane fuel all the time!

thanks everyone for the compliments btw ive worked long and hard on the engine. o yea, heres something to look forward too. the car will be driveable by friday!

-R




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