what's the fastest camaro V6 out there...streetable i mean
 

i would like to know what is the true potential of the camaro V6?? it seems fast on the streets.....well my GF would like to buy them....thanks

THe fastest 100 % streetable non-juiced guy I would say is Tiago, he has almsot all custom setup but is running a turboed 3.4L tht ran a 13.5, with some tuning, issues, his car ran better at part throttole then full throttle. Either way his car is his daily driver.

Shirl's car, is nitrosed and juiced, and its on the stock suspension.

12secondv6, is still running the stock cam I think and he is in the 12.


anyways here is hte timeslip page

http://timeslips.firebirdv6.com/

My car is going to be totally streetable. I am looking for high 9's to low 10's on this current set-up.

www.hustonstreetracing.com for the skinny on my car. Of course I am cheating and using a GN motor.... :D

damnnn:eek: :eek: that's a monster

I might have read it wrong but didn't Magnus get into the 13's without nitrous? With cam work...

oh my god! there is that timeslips page again.

if you really want to know about V6s, i feel these guys will mislead you. you have to go with the facts.
yes it is true tiago has a 13.5 turboed 3.4. BUT, he is the only one. yes magnus pulled 13.XX without nitrous. BUT AGAIN he is the only one. impressive times for a V6 fbody, but not everyday times.
the fact you have to look at are the essential facts: 200 bhp, heavy cars off the showroom floor, open rear on most, some have 3.08s, 15/16 second cars to begin with.
now that is the truth about V6 camaros.
i must be the only person on here that sees other V6 camaros on the road and thinks "thats a slow car" dont get me wrong, i think worse of V6 mustangs.
but if you want to know how much potential these cars have then i suggest you look at tiagos car as well as magnus's car, 12secv6,camaro_zach, slacker69. oh hell anybody on that timeslips page.

Yee of little faith. Yes the 4th gen v6 fbody is slow, compared to the LT1 & LS1. Few have truely committed to achiving fast times w/ their v6's. Heck I've only been to the track twice w/ my v6. In the next yr or 2 you'll see a lot more ppl put down some stellar v6 times.

The 3.8 in our cars has a lot of potential. Depending on how much money you're willing to put into it of course. I ran a 14.3 and my car is a daily driver. Back and forth to work everyday. It's not the fastest by far, but she can hold her own. You win some, and you loose some. That's just "racing". If you're looking for fast......like everyone else will tell you.....just get a V-8. If you're looking for pride in a quick V-6, you better be independantly wealthy or go rob a bank cuz it's not cheap. Gotta pay to play.;)

mine will be fairly badd ars once i get it back together:D

I didn't really mention Magnus's car N/A he did run 13s, but I am not to sure of the everyday streetability of the car. I mean did you here the clip of his car with the cam?


Also a guy Joe palermos was running 14 flats, hitting his speed limiter about before the end of the 1/4 mile, he was probable another 13 second v6 f-body that was daily driven, but he got rid of he car before they came out with a way to get rid of a speed limiter.

WIth a 3.8L I woudln't expect a huge amount more then 14s with and 100% streetable, if you stay N/A.

my v6 bird just has a cam and converter and exhaust work and i'm in the 12s, hoping to get into 11s now with the tuning I got and the right tires.

Silver00

How does my car not count? I ran 12.3 with only a 100 shot in a VERY streetable setup with full exhaust ON the car just with the cat removed. My car was more streetable back then than it is now.

I also drive my car ALL the time. It's very streetable.

And as for that cam clip, i mentioned it many times that I popped a vacuum line off for effect. It idles much smoother than that noramlly.

There isn't 1 non-streetable car on the timeslips page:
http://timeslips.firebirdv6.com

Also, to get more in-depth technical information regarding 3.4's and 3.8's check out the tech database and engine section of firebirdv6.com and ask questions to the largest V6 online community be sure to check out firebirdv6's message board. :)

3.8's definately have a lot of potential, it just takes patience and the proper setup. It really doesn't take a lot of $$$ either.

In an automatic a simple intake/exhaust/converter/gear will go a long way. To get the most out of it at the track though you'll need a good tire. :)

www.firebirdv6.com <-- is where it's at. :)

Not one 3800 Maro has ever even dyno'd 200WHP w/o a power adder. Knowing that they are 16x stock it's easy to see why most people aren't that fast.

they are more of a high 15 to low 16 stock car...


I did pull a 15.8, first time I ran my dad's stck 2000 camaro with 7,000 miles on it.

Both Mike Huff and Tyrunt Rolle dyno'd over 200 rwhp.

3.8's with 3.42's stock are a 15.2-15.3 sec car up here in chicago in good weather. Seen it happen time and time again. With 3.08s they are a 15.5-15.6 sec car.

Also, just for kicks I took my car out for lunch and drove around in the snow and slipper roads. It did not burst into a ball of fire nor did I lose control and flip into a ditch. I did not kill any birds or squirrels from polution nor did I have to fill up the tank with 100+ octain every few blocks.

LMFAO...Keith, no offense but you sound like a walking propaganda sign for firebird v6..... damn man lol......


as for streetability, yes I also agree that keith's car is streetable, the definition of streetable may be different for each one, but IMO his car is fine.

My car is totally streetable but much slower then keith's lol, its not worth modding to me if I gotta take it off the streets, thats where the fun is :D

I am a proud member of firebirdv6.com and hope other newbies find their way to the site well...

I too was once a newbie on a less popular forum.. When I finally found camaroz28.com it became so much easier to sort the fact from the fiction and I also had a much busier message board with a larger member base to search for answers I was looking for.

The site I started on had many banned members of this site believe it or not... and it was like I was stuck there.. nobody told me of what was out there, i was blind. It was taboo to mention this sites name.

I just don't want newbies to have to go through what I did. I could have been so much further ahead had I found camaroz28 sooner than I did.

If nobody spreads the word of firebirdv6.com, how are people supposed to know it exists? ;)

You can spread the word of it... Jsut say, www.firebirdv6.com has some useful info as well....

or even jsut post the sites in your sig like I do.


You sounded like a infomercial in your earlier post.


Lets try not divert off topic anymore.

I wished I got my Blown V6 to the track before getting rid of it. Oh well.

The fastest V6 F-car I know of is a 3rd gen. It is not street legal, and races in the NMCA (I think). It was in a past issue of Car Craft. He had a N20 backfire, so there were some flames shooting from under the hood. I think he has a 400+ci engine :think:

my v6 bird just has a cam and converter and exhaust work and i'm in the 12s, hoping to get into 11s now with the tuning I got and the right tires.

Silver00


did anyone not read that??? 11's? in a 2000 v6 bird? look at his mods.....hooker long tubes?? and 3600 stall?? hmmmm i dont believe it.

I was thinking that myself...........

Got too....... :bs:

he failed to mention the cammed ls1 he swapped in there ;)

must be fun :D

I think (and am willing to bet) a 4th gen V6 with the 3800 series 2 engin can get into the 11's on a stock cam.
Dyno #'s don't mean that much because I have run 2 14.4's and I only put down 170 rwhp and 200 rwtq.
As for nitrous times, all I do is spin :(
The future should be VERY interesting.
I'm guessing that by the mid summer there will be 3 11secondv6's
The question is, who will get there first :)

how much nitroius do you shoot 12sec? and how much nitro do they shoot? the other 2?


and if he has a cammed LS1...that would be a 5.7...that is not a v6. so he doesnt count..the quest was v6. either a 2.8 3.1 3.4 3.8

100 shot I spun to a 12.49
125 shot I spun to a 12.48
Hmmmm, got traction???
I'll be back to a 100 shot shortly

I wonder how many of those cars are capable of driving in the rain/snow, take turns faster then 10mph. :rolleyes: Do they even start in the winter with those tiny drag only batteries? Or how does it drive in the rain/snow with no windshield washer fluid or at night with no headlights? Sucks to just drive around with no radio or speakers. It's a cold floor with no carpet in the winter. Hard to give anyone a ride with no seats, unless one has no social life.

Some would call the return path to the trailer a street.

I drive with no washer fluid too and that was the dumbest thing I've ever done to the car. I wouldn't call that streetable to stop at a gas station just to wash the winshield so I can keep driving on the street.

I wouldn't even call 4.10s highwayable.

So who drives the SAME setup they drive at the track EVERYDAY of the year in EVERY CONDITION?

I do, drive my car year round, in snowstorms, rain, you name it....everyday, its the daily driver.........

Damn Dom could you be any more of a moron?

I drive my car in the rain/snow and even salt unfortunately... so does tiago and james i'm sure..

Don't hate just because your car with 4.10's can't even hit a 14.7

How can you call driving without washer fluid not streetable? That has to be one of the dumbest things i've ever heard.

You must have more tranny problems too if your 4.10's aren't highway worthy. Both Zach and I have 4.10's and we cruise on the highway all the time... You don't see our cars blowing up or burning trannies do you?

If you can drive your car 120 miles to the track, then race AS IS and then 120 miles back wihtout filling up with gas every 60 miles, i consider that pretty damn STREET able.. I mean hell, how can you NOT consider driving 120 miles on the STREET being STREETable?

I don't know about you but I take highways to get to the drag strip. Perhaps you take a bunch of off-roads that don't classify as streets. :rolleyes:

Just because james takes out his radio doesn't mean the car won't run on the street.. Do you believe that not having a radio will cause ignition or electrical problems? Perhaps thats the reasoning for your remark.

Just because the back half of my carpet is removed doesn't mean my car won't run on the street... Perhaps here you were thinking the back half of the carpet plays a role in the structural integrity of the car. I hope you are wrong on this one as I don't want my car's frame to twist like a pretzel ON THE STREET because I don't have the oh so very important rear half of the carpet in.

Perhaps you should re-think the term STREET-ABLE... ie: Able to drive on the street. Doesn't mean you have to drive it every day of the year.

Just because you can't compete with the big boys doesn't mean you have to bitch and moan about how its unfair to you.

:Owned:

Hell yeah Magnus!!!!

Show them who is boss....LOL

Let me add a few little comments in on this now....

My car has a TH400 tranny ( NO OVERDRIVE ) and I drove my car to towns 100 miles away...it didn't blow up the tranny is still strong.... I have no rear seats, no washer fluid tank, and I put gas in the car twice the whole night. Meaning once when I left and once when I got back....I think that is streetable


Just because we don't drive our cars in those conditions doesn't mean that we CAN'T. We just choose not too because these are our pride and joy. I have a daily driver for that crap. Once in awhile I might get caught in the rain but it is no big deal.

Tell you what you choose a track, we will all DRIVE to the track, race and then drive home....Then would you consider our cars streetrable....????

Yes I know Tiago drives his car everyday. He is a good friend and we talk alot.

Did creatine inflate the dumb part of your brain too?

You have no clue about transmissions and why my broke so shut your dumb ass. You can't even install your own shift kit or install gears that don't whine.

At least I don't have knock retard after ****ing up my head install and then have no clue what to do for half a year. Thankfully someone smart helped you out.

You should have at least talk to Tom. Piece of **** head work for $2K.


If you like driving at 3K+ RPMs for a few hours at a time on the highway, that's fine. I don't and most people don't.

I didn't have my PCM reprogrammed. Do you have any clue as to what a PCM does? It controls shifts and top speed. So I can't even run a full 1/4. I had to coast to that 14.8 while shifting at 5500-5700. I hit 14.8 at only 83mph.

You have 2 other cars so you can rice the one you have now. I only have 1 car and I'm not going to do anything more to it until I get a second one. Some of us have prorities in life.

Your dumb ass couldn't even hit 14.8 on a stock converter.

Are you going to cry to every admin on every car board out there to ban me cause you're too much of a ***** to do anything about it yourself? Bring that OWNED banned to my house today and we'll see whos going to get owned. You actually had PSJ post on fbodyv6 cause you were too scared to post yourself. You told Steve Miller to ban me cause you were to scared to tell me something on AIM. Stop hiding behing people and face you ****ed coward. As I said I'll be here all day. You can't even imagine the pain I'll put your skinny weak ass through if you decide to show.

I'm out like your popularity of every board out there.

So how is the PCM programming coming along Magnus? 2 years and counting... did your friend ask for his Tech 2 back yet?

How's the paper jam removal job coming along? Yeah we may not be hot sh!ts with our V6s now, but in 5 years who will be graduated from college? And who will be still stuck in a rut trying to fix his KR problem? Pretty self explanatory to me.

I've said it before, and I'll say it again: Bring yourself down to HRP. There will be a mob waiting to welcome you heartily.

Times like these I wished I lived in Chicago... oh wait, nevermind, I'm in the greatest state ever! :bow: Texas :bow:

Scott

Awwwww.... poor baby, *sniff* *sniff* I hope i didn't hurt your feelings.. *sniff* *sniff*

I installed Zach's 4.10's and they are silent. :) So yea, that destroys your first pathetic attempt of an attack at me.

My knock retard isn't from a f'd up head install either. Nobody helped me out on it either. It's just noisy CC 941 springs that won't be on the new engine... ERRR.. try again loser. ;)

My heads didn't cost 2K either and they are definately not pos's... mind you i ran 13.6@98 naturally aspirated.. Wrong again hot shot. ;)

How is my car riced out? I have no stickers, no wing, it's not slammed, i don't have big ole rim's on it.. it's not bliging.. It's just a regular drag car. :) By saying my car is rice, your also implying that so many other members of camaroz28 have riced out f-bodies too... are you nolonger a fan of the drag car f-body?

Oh yea, I did hit 14.8 on stock verter btw, at GLD too.. boy you are just sucking today aren't ya!

Cry yourself a river.. you got banned from firebirdv6.com because of YOU, not me. ;) And that's the beauty of it. lol

I also didnt tell psj to post on fbodyv6.com either. Wrong again ya big loser. LOL

I'm the skinny weak one? You're the one who goes to the gym once a month and makes it an event. I'm sooooo scared.

Yea, my popularity is suffering... oh yea.. cause I'M the ******* that's talkin smack behind other peoples back.. yup.. damn i suck. Guess again... loser. ;)

Get lost man, take your drama elsewhere.

Wait a minute....I guess you two have beef with each other :eek: .....I didn't mean to step on anyones toes....I was just making a friendly wager.... :D

I'll be home today. You can show the world how big of a man you are.

Sidenote, I got a Bally's membership renewed and been going there very often.

Zach's car doesn't whine cause his car is just so awesome.

You're right I can't compete now. I spend $25K on tuition a year. When I'm done, I'll start competing.

It's 12:05 now. Still waiting.

I really don't feel like talking **** to people who live within beating distance. So I'll just stop posting and wait. 12:06.

Just waiting for you to show up to back up your brave words with brave actions. :dead:

Your car is faster so you can always run away.

Waiting........

Hey, here's an idea, how about Scott and his side kick Dom play a game..

I know i konw.. Lets pretend we're adults and start acting like them? huh? huh? what do you boys think? think ya can handle that?

I know it would be tough... but I think if you try hard enough you just might be able to pull it off..

:rolleyes:

waiting......

This thread needs to get back to the topic at hand...If you two have beef take care of it through e-mail.


Sidenote....:rolleyes: Give me a break....Now you are starting to show your age....fighting resolves nothing. :(

lameo. im glad i got rid of my v6 so i wouldnt need to associate myself with keith :rolleyes: all he does is start trouble. lets see what witty remark he comes up with for me.

my car is streetable, when its not broken. i guess thats that downside to having power.

"Keith, what the HELL is your problem..
Enough is enough.. take it OFF of the board!"


"Keith, seriously quit the buill**** already.
Your badmouthing dom doesn't help answer this guys question AT ALL... so just shut the hell up with that crap already.

Talk about fast v6's, talk about streetable, but quit the bad mouthing. "

"I've had enough of you Keith... I warned you twice..

You need a timeout. You're just being an instigater. "

"Dom, please forward any hate e-mails to me and the admins. This is the second complaint i've heard of this nature in the past few days from various members.
Thanks. "

"Why are they getting out of hand I ask you? Perhaps Keith and/or Dom should take a setp back? Why keep bringing up the same old crap."

"You should be setting an example and lead others to do so as well."


all quotes taken from another message board all made by keith... i changed the names around to show how keith should follow what he says to others. :Owned: