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Old May 8, 2003 | 03:30 PM
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lets get back to how this **** started why dont we....

I said that going to an LT1 TB wasnt a good idea on most 3.4L's
a 62mm TB isnt that big of a change
that was posted by you at the start of this thread. The issue i am dealing with is -- if a LT1 TB is a bad idea on "most" 3.4L's...why would a 62mm TB be a good idea?

a 62mm TB flows 650+ cfm
a LT1 Dual-bore 48mm TB flows 635 cfm.

how is the 62 less of a change than the LT1 TB ???

-- waiting for you to explain that one there --

-R
Old May 8, 2003 | 03:37 PM
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plain and simple, i didnt realize it would flow that much. now lets address my question again

are you going to awnser my question now? how is an LT1 TB fine when it flows 635 cfm and a 56 mm TB is too big when it only flows 532 cfm

Old May 8, 2003 | 04:03 PM
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look - i can do the "rollseyes" crap too -

if you want me to take this discussion seriously you need to cut that out.. i tire of people patronizing me and ****.

all i said was:

according to that chart, anything above a 56mm single bore tb is too much for the stock 3.4
and i will add: that also is according to your theory that the LT1 sucks for the 3.4.

you can take that any way you want it. point is ive answered the question that i really had - in that you have no real knowledge. only book smarts. so you go right ahead thinking that an LT1 TB will be too much and a 62mm TB is fine. you just think that... no problem.

i mean its your opinion that an LT1 TB isnt good for the 3.4 - you're wrong - but it is your opinion.

-R
Old May 8, 2003 | 05:18 PM
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Originally posted by 94Camaro
look - i can do the "rollseyes" crap too -

if you want me to take this discussion seriously you need to cut that out.. i tire of people patronizing me and ****.


but yet you are allowed to call me a tool , and say "you are still BS", and in our last convorsation you stated all of the following:

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your stupid ideas are making me dumb
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shoot yourself. do the universe a favor.
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fark off. assclown
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so fark off a'ight?
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again, get your head out of your ***
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cause yur a dumbass
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i bet you have the common sense of a mule.

Im supposed to take you seriously?






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so you go right ahead thinking that an LT1 TB will be too much and a 62mm TB is fine.

-R
once again.. i did not realize that it would flow that much at the time... what does it take to get thru to you?

and all this time you say that i am wrong and you are right and you tell me to get stuff to back it up. but you have yourself provided nothing to show that you are correct except for -
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ive figured out what i needed to know already. im not telling you the answer tho, you'll have to figure it out on your own. cause yur a tool.
Old May 8, 2003 | 05:20 PM
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please guys, you are degrading yourself by doing this....
Old May 8, 2003 | 05:27 PM
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damn wtf is wrong with some ppl on this site just give up if someone is an ***

well any way im just wonderin if it is possible to port the 3.4 t.b. and if there would be any gains at all i have no cat an exaust and a cai so far thank you.
Old May 8, 2003 | 05:50 PM
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well now you are just being hilarous. i love how since i wont give you the answer so that you can add to your booksmarts you get all upset.

aww. poor baby.
Old May 8, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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according to the chart;
a 62mm flows 655 cfm
an lt1 48x2 flows 786 cfm
and I've seen real life lt1 tb's flow 780 cfm on a flowbench
Old May 8, 2003 | 10:17 PM
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http://www.corvette.racenet.net/induction.php

that site lists the BBK 52mm throttle body 785 cfm so the 48mm cant flow 780

besides that the formula only accounts for single bore TB's -- LT1 is dual barrel, and most likely has a different VE than the single bore ones.
Old May 9, 2003 | 11:59 AM
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Originally posted by 94Camaro
http://www.corvette.racenet.net/induction.php

that site lists the BBK 52mm throttle body 785 cfm so the 48mm cant flow 780

besides that the formula only accounts for single bore TB's -- LT1 is dual barrel, and most likely has a different VE than the single bore ones.
hmm, it coulda been a 52x2 I seen the flowchart to- but that dosen't seem to be alot of air for 2 52mm holes. but I know one big hole is going to be more effecent than 2 little holes
Old May 9, 2003 | 12:03 PM
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well anyways, this thread has gotton way off topic....

http://www.rsmracing.com/
I can't find any rwd tb's on there website,but I know they've been working on them
Old May 12, 2003 | 11:29 AM
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the throttle body for the 3400 grand am is the same as the one on the 3.4 camaro they had it bolted on and tested in under an hour. the throttle response is noticably quicker. I'm going to get the intake ported this winter for a little more air flow as well
Old May 12, 2003 | 12:33 PM
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Originally posted by red95camaro
the throttle body for the 3400 grand am is the same as the one on the 3.4 camaro they had it bolted on and tested in under an hour. the throttle response is noticably quicker. I'm going to get the intake ported this winter for a little more air flow as well
no its not!!

the bolt holes are reversed. top is on the passenger side, bottom is on the drivers side on the 3400 as opposed to top-driver/bottom-passenger on the 3.4 RWD. you should go take a look at your TB before you buy one of these. trust me i swapped my topend to a 3x00 - they are waaay different. cables are on the passenger side no driver side. i had to lengthen my throttle cable, and i didnt even bother with the cruise control (100% diff. connection).

trust me you dont wanna use a 3x00 tb on your car... unless you feel like making an adapter plate to bolt it up to the 3.4L Y intake, and / or getting longer throttle cables.

and -- if you dont believe me, check out the picture of the engine in my 1994 camaro. uses the 3x00 intake and heads and 3x00 tb (the 3100/3400 use the same TB)

http://camaro.adwire.com/sigpic.jpg
if you look close enough you'll see its reversed. heres another good one:
http://camaro.adwire.com/enginepics/thcable.sm.jpg

that was taken from the passenger side..see the coils?

anyway. they are making one for the f-body, but dont waste your money getting the one for the 3x00. cause it wont work on the Y-shaped intake.

-R.
Old May 12, 2003 | 03:35 PM
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Well I called them up they got in a core they milled it out to 62mm
they installed it under an hour Email them they will do it for you too if you like
Hey I just started this thread because it was a new part for our cars
I had a good experience with it and I thought that was the purpose of the forum if you want one contact RSM racing and they will hook you up
Old May 12, 2003 | 05:06 PM
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milling a core is different.

if they have 3.4 RWD throttle bodies and can bore them out and put a new plate in and send it to ya and you send them your original one then yea it'll work cause it'll be a 3.4 RWD tb.

but if you tell them you want a 3x00 tb and they send you one it will not work.

im not against you man, i think its cool that everyone is lookin out for everyone and thats all im doin with your post there..making sure someone that didnt do the research doesnt just run out and spend money on the wrong thing...



-R



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