Horsepower?
02-19-2003, 05:37 PM
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Originally posted by #7
Maro98,Back to the top,I cant tell ya how much hp gain you'd get.But I have those upgrades(on my 6) and I can say they will satisfy your urge for awhile and get you good gains.A BIG difference man,worth it.
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Thanks I will try them, Ive been really been workin on looks but its time for some performance now!
Originally posted by #7
Maro98,Back to the top,I cant tell ya how much hp gain you'd get.But I have those upgrades(on my 6) and I can say they will satisfy your urge for awhile and get you good gains.A BIG difference man,worth it.
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Thanks I will try them, Ive been really been workin on looks but its time for some performance now!
02-19-2003, 07:20 PM
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I am not trying to flame, I have driven many 3.8 cars Auto and 5-Speed and quite a few Y87 equipped cars too.
Gears, CAI, Exhaust and maybe a couple other bolt ons isn't going to be enough to kill a healty V8 car.
The 1994-1998 Mustangs ran in the 15.0+ range but the newer (99-03) ones even autos are in the high 14's. Don't get me wrong I dislike Mustangs but a 3.8 will need internal work or a power adder to beat the new ones.
Gears, CAI, Exhaust and maybe a couple other bolt ons isn't going to be enough to kill a healty V8 car.
The 1994-1998 Mustangs ran in the 15.0+ range but the newer (99-03) ones even autos are in the high 14's. Don't get me wrong I dislike Mustangs but a 3.8 will need internal work or a power adder to beat the new ones.
02-19-2003, 07:30 PM
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I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to beat a stock automatic GT. My friend gets those on the top end every time. He's gonna need some sort of power adder to beat the sticks (loses to those by about a car and a half), but the auto GT's even the 1998-2003 can be beat by a 3800 w/ the right set up.
02-19-2003, 08:06 PM
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Im not sure if the GTs I beat were stick or auto "I raced them on the streets" but I have beat about 6 of them and got beat by 2 I have also beat a 91 RS auto and ran with a 89 Z28 "Dont know if it was auto or not" The Z28 beat me by about half a car length every time and we raced like 6 times. I told him mine was a 6 cylinder and he asked me if I was running NOS. That made me feel so good since all I have is exhaust.
02-19-2003, 08:16 PM
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I drive a 91 RS, they're very restricted from factory. If you raced off the line he should beaten there (they're only good stock for making low-end torque), then with your superior horsepower you would pass him every time. In 89 they still had the Iroc's not the Z28's. They made three motors for those as options. I don't know which one you raced but here they are.
Engine, 5.0L 8 Cylinder 170 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 3.74
* Horsepower: 170 @ 4000rpm
* Torque: 255 @ 2400rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 15.5
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Electronic Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Electronic Fuel Injection
Std
Engine, 5.7L 8 Cylinder 230 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5.7
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 4
* Horsepower: 230 @ 4400rpm
* Torque: 330 @ 3200rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 0
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
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Engine, 5.0L 8 Cylinder 220 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 3.74
* Horsepower: 220 @ 4400rpm
* Torque: 290 @ 3200rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 0
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
Engine, 5.0L 8 Cylinder 170 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 3.74
* Horsepower: 170 @ 4000rpm
* Torque: 255 @ 2400rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 15.5
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Electronic Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Electronic Fuel Injection
Std
Engine, 5.7L 8 Cylinder 230 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5.7
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 4
* Horsepower: 230 @ 4400rpm
* Torque: 330 @ 3200rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 0
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
Opt
Engine, 5.0L 8 Cylinder 220 hp Gas
* Cylinder Number: 8
* Valves per Cylinder: 0
* Cylinder Configuration: Vee
* Compression Ratio: 0
* Camshaft: Center of Vee
* Engine Size: 5
* Engine Type: Gas
* Coolant Capacity: 0
* Oil Capacity: 0
* Stroke: 3.48
* Bore: 3.74
* Horsepower: 220 @ 4400rpm
* Torque: 290 @ 3200rpm
* Fuel Capacity: 0
* Fuel Type: Unleaded Regular
* Fuel Delivery Type: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
* Fuel Delivery: Tuned-Port Fuel Injection
02-19-2003, 08:23 PM
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I took the RS off the line and just kept gaining, It was an auto though. The 89 all I know is what he told me mabye he did say Iroc im not exactly sure but he did take me every time but not by much.
02-19-2003, 08:30 PM
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He probably just said "Z" which people use for both the Iroc-Z and the Z28. That RS must've spun or just wasn't running too good to not even take you off the line. My RS will beat my friends modded 3800 off the line every time. Then horsepower takes over and he passes me. I need mods but but don't have any money.
02-19-2003, 09:28 PM
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You people don't read!!! Try that before commenting. Geez!
Ahem...
look at what I wrote...
Notice the bold part...never...NEVER did I say it would gain you horsepower. I said it would be the equivalent, and that is true. If you cared to do the math yourself and understood how engines and gearing deliver torque you'd know that.
And, also,
Please show me the word "beat" in that paragraph....anyone??? No??? Never did I say you were going to beat anything other than an older 5.0L - a fox body GT. All the other cars, I said you'd "Run" with them. There is a big differance between running with someone, - as in "giving them a run for the money", and beating them. Never did I or have I confused the two...nor should you. I said you'd RUN with them. Which is true. The older 5.0 - an LX 5-spd you can expect to run about a 14.5 stock at the track. The GT Automatic being the slowest of the 5.0's will run a late 14, even high 15. and notice I said stock...not "healthy" as someone mentioned
Also - In drag racing, "Mildly" and "healthy" are not synonamous. Mild indicates basic bolts ons have been added. A Healthy engine refers to having work done to increase breathing, as in heads, camshafts, induction setups.
As for newer Mustang GT's - 4.6L's you can expect them to run around a 14 flat if its a manual tranny and a good driver. With LT1's a little faster than that. If you frequently watch drag racing you'd know that a 14 flat and a 14.5 are not far off in terms of determing a winner by the naked eye. To you they will look even. And anything within 1 car length is safe to say you 'ran' with them. Compared to "Blowing their doors off" or "eating" them.
Read first, rant second.
I don't give false info.
Ahem...
look at what I wrote...
Going from 3.23's to 3.42's would be the equivalent of adding about 11-12 horsepower.
Going from 3.23's to 3.73's would be the equivalent of adding about 31 horsepower.
Going from 3.23's to 4.10's would be the equivalent of adding about 53-54 horsepower.
Going from 3.23's to 3.73's would be the equivalent of adding about 31 horsepower.
Going from 3.23's to 4.10's would be the equivalent of adding about 53-54 horsepower.
And, also,
You should be able to run with any 260hp Mustang, Stock LT1 automatics, completely wipe the floor with 5.0L's, and keep up with mildly built Mustangs.
Also - In drag racing, "Mildly" and "healthy" are not synonamous. Mild indicates basic bolts ons have been added. A Healthy engine refers to having work done to increase breathing, as in heads, camshafts, induction setups.
As for newer Mustang GT's - 4.6L's you can expect them to run around a 14 flat if its a manual tranny and a good driver. With LT1's a little faster than that. If you frequently watch drag racing you'd know that a 14 flat and a 14.5 are not far off in terms of determing a winner by the naked eye. To you they will look even. And anything within 1 car length is safe to say you 'ran' with them. Compared to "Blowing their doors off" or "eating" them.
Read first, rant second.
I don't give false info.
Last edited by Bliggida; 02-19-2003 at 09:35 PM.
02-19-2003, 10:17 PM
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Originally posted by 305man
I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to beat a stock automatic GT. My friend gets those on the top end every time. He's gonna need some sort of power adder to beat the sticks (loses to those by about a car and a half), but the auto GT's even the 1998-2003 can be beat by a 3800 w/ the right set up.
I'm telling you, it doesn't take that much to beat a stock automatic GT. My friend gets those on the top end every time. He's gonna need some sort of power adder to beat the sticks (loses to those by about a car and a half), but the auto GT's even the 1998-2003 can be beat by a 3800 w/ the right set up.
T.