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Old Jun 5, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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can I make a engin trans fer?

I wanted to know if i wanted to change my 94 v6 camaro 3.4 liter to a ls1 5.7 liter engine wut else would i have to change to make it work. It is also automatic. Other wise i was thinking about putting on a huge turbo on the v6 camaro from ebay that puts out up to 40 psi
Old Jun 5, 2004 | 04:35 PM
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There is quit a bit that needs to be changed to get it all to work. I will do my best here:

Engine, Transmission, Wiring Harness, Gauge cluster, rearend, driveshaft, radiator, pcm, hood, front suspension, fuel system, and tons of other little parts.

The hood has to be changed because the Ls1 sits higher than the v6 and the hood won't close unless it is changed....a hood like the preditor from Suncoast Creations would work.

The best way to do it is to find a wrecked Z, and just transfer all the parts over.
Old Jun 6, 2004 | 12:45 AM
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You don't want a huge turbo on a 3.4L.
If you even could put 40psi on a stock 3.4L you would get about 1000hp. The stock 3.4 would break a piston or connecting rod before 25psi. It wouldn't last very long running around 20psi.
If you want to see some 3.4L turbo ideas check out my cardomain site.
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:11 AM
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Originally posted by oil pan 4
You don't want a huge turbo on a 3.4L.
If you even could put 40psi on a stock 3.4L you would get about 1000hp. The stock 3.4 would break a piston or connecting rod before 25psi. It wouldn't last very long running around 20psi.
If you want to see some 3.4L turbo ideas check out my cardomain site.
agreed...40 PSI is way WAYYYYY over what a stock motor could handle...on top of that turbo cars in general are difficult to tune and get to run reliably.

as far as the engine swap you need to change TONS of stuff...its really not cost effective as it would cost a ton of money to pay for all the stuff you need plus a ton more to swap it over. its a long process....overall if u want an LS1, your most painless and probably most cost effective bet is to just buy an LS1 car.
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 12:45 PM
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ok but...

My cousin is giving me his ls1 corvette engine out of his 280zx datsun bc he wants this other motor. So he said $300 and its mine it has 19,000 miles on it! so i was still wondering if it would be a good investment just to put that in my 3.4 liter v6 camaro?
As for the turbo how much psi do u think my car could handle if it had like 115,000 miles on it? And how much horsepower would that be?
Old Jun 7, 2004 | 06:24 PM
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for that price i would probably go for it..shouild be good for around 350 hp.
Old Jun 8, 2004 | 07:57 AM
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a datsun 280z, oh man those 350 conversions move. I got an uncle with one of those. Isn't exactly slow
Old Jun 8, 2004 | 09:24 AM
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Re: ok but...

Originally posted by keithyscamaro
As for the turbo how much psi do u think my car could handle if it had like 115,000 miles on it? And how much horsepower would that be?
A lot of that depends on the Turbo used. I suspect ~7psi would be the safe limit, but that all depends. Go to www.forcefedfab.com and check out their 3.4; it takes quite a beating into the mid 13's with a stock bottom end and a roasted clutch.
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 11:53 AM
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cool

ok thanks for the info i guess today we are gonnatry to fix my brakes and put n my glow gauges in my car. but i was wondering wut kind of hood and rims should i get for my v6 camaro i was thinking ultra z hood and some 16" cragar s/s? oh and my car is teal.
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 12:46 PM
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If' you're ganna swap the engine. don't get glow gauges just yet because you're ganna have to swap the gauge cluster anyway. $350 is unbeatable for an LS1 with low miles.

I'm curious, how many PSI's can a stock 3.8 take?
Would changing pistons, cam, and connecting rods raise the limit? how much horses would I get and would it still be daily drive reliable?
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 01:04 PM
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Originally posted by Need4Camaro
I'm curious, how many PSI's can a stock 3.8 take?
Would changing pistons, cam, and connecting rods raise the limit? how much horses would I get and would it still be daily drive reliable?
Again, www.forcefedfab.com has done it and is a good source. I personally wouldn't break 10psi on a stock 3.8. Replacing the bottom end like you mentioned is the way to go to handle more boost. The L67 (GTP engine) has forged parts that will swap into an L36 (3800) and make it a lot more boost friendly.

To keep daily driver and a turbo without major modifications I would say 5-7psi would be good. That should get you between 250-300hp depending on the Turbo used. Also getting the computer reprogrammed would definately help the driveability of the vehicle, as well as the power.

Beef up the bottom end, keep a nice low compression, get a sturdy drivetrain and you could probably push the car to the 18psi range. That might be living a little dangerous, though. With boost like that you'll easily be blown into 500+ hp. But with proper tuning and gentle driving you could still pull 20+ mpg city driving and be relatively mild mannered...for a high 11's - low 12's V6 monster.
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 01:13 PM
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Tuning is what everyone says and where I lack knowledge at, like first off what do I tune? My guess is it's computer programing but is there anything else? What in the computer do I need to tune or change and how would I change it accordingly, how will I know if it's right for what I need? and is 500 Horses still possible on 87 Octane?
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Originally posted by Need4Camaro
Tuning is what everyone says and where I lack knowledge at, like first off what do I tune? My guess is it's computer programing but is there anything else? What in the computer do I need to tune or change and how would I change it accordingly, how will I know if it's right for what I need? and is 500 Horses still possible on 87 Octane?
There are many aspects of tuning. The computer is key, but is not something you can do. You want to have everything else finished before getting your computer programmed, so that it can be optimal for your setup. Other aspects of tuning include the size of fuel injectors, TB size, exhaust size, MAF size, spark plug gap, ignition...just to name a few. Tuning is making everything work together for the best possible outcome.

As for 500hp on 87, I wouldn't try it. But you should be able to pull off 92 or 93 and keep away from detonation if you do everything right.
Old Jun 9, 2004 | 04:21 PM
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40 PSI

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Old Jun 10, 2004 | 09:26 PM
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^^ thats what i thought,

you guys need to go do a little research before you talk about these "set-ups" you want to put in your car.

there is no possible way to get 40 psi out of a stock engine (well for more than a couple seconds lol till you create a bomb). if you want to run some decent boost you should rebuild the engine with forged internals and lower compression, that way you dont get detonation and cook your pistons. needless to say you would also have to beef up your tranny and rear end so you dont break something on your first trip out of the garage. just do some homework before you make yourself look dumb.



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