Can a 3.4L firebird be put into the 14's N/A with bolt ons?
01-23-2003, 01:54 PM
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Originally posted by 1fastV6
94camaro, dude! get your head out. yes i own a V8 and no i am not a snooty V8 owner. i also have a V6 that i have put a hell of a lot into. i would think i know what the hell i am talking about. i said capable yes, reasonable no. i didnt say it was impossible nor was i dissing the 3.4.
even you yourself said
now how reasonable is that? maybe it is reasonable for you to spend countless $$$$ on a 3.4, but i dont think the rest of the nation agrees with you. just like most people dont agree on me building up my 3.8. did you forget what forum you are reading?? this is V6 tech and i do own a V6- i aint putting down the 3.4.
so if you want to keep telling people its possible to get 300 hp out of a 3.4 go ahead. even i will be excited when i see it, but if i hear you say its reasonable i will tell the world you are full of shlt.
94camaro, dude! get your head out. yes i own a V8 and no i am not a snooty V8 owner. i also have a V6 that i have put a hell of a lot into. i would think i know what the hell i am talking about. i said capable yes, reasonable no. i didnt say it was impossible nor was i dissing the 3.4.
even you yourself said
now how reasonable is that? maybe it is reasonable for you to spend countless $$$$ on a 3.4, but i dont think the rest of the nation agrees with you. just like most people dont agree on me building up my 3.8. did you forget what forum you are reading?? this is V6 tech and i do own a V6- i aint putting down the 3.4.
so if you want to keep telling people its possible to get 300 hp out of a 3.4 go ahead. even i will be excited when i see it, but if i hear you say its reasonable i will tell the world you are full of shlt.
He has a point...After looking at my options and how I needed a new car anyway I just went out and bought a 3800 Camaro.
Now I am looking at 14's without much if any work
The 3400 is just a headache to mess with IMO
01-23-2003, 03:06 PM
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3.8L ain't that much easier....
only 36 out of 113 cars are in the 14s... 14 of those are a 14.9XX, and the there are still 3 guys that run 14.89X
So only about 20 guys that run solid 14s, out of 113, that posted times, and I know there are alot mroe in the 16s still...
As much as people think it a 3.8L is not the end all motor that will give you 14s with a new shifter ***.
But as you said, you do have a new car.... which, I cna gurantee is in much better condition then any 3.4L
only 36 out of 113 cars are in the 14s... 14 of those are a 14.9XX, and the there are still 3 guys that run 14.89X
So only about 20 guys that run solid 14s, out of 113, that posted times, and I know there are alot mroe in the 16s still...
As much as people think it a 3.8L is not the end all motor that will give you 14s with a new shifter ***.
But as you said, you do have a new car.... which, I cna gurantee is in much better condition then any 3.4L
01-23-2003, 09:20 PM
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Originally posted by MustangEater82
3.8L ain't that much easier....
only 36 out of 113 cars are in the 14s... 14 of those are a 14.9XX, and the there are still 3 guys that run 14.89X
So only about 20 guys that run solid 14s, out of 113, that posted times, and I know there are alot mroe in the 16s still...
As much as people think it a 3.8L is not the end all motor that will give you 14s with a new shifter ***.
But as you said, you do have a new car.... which, I cna gurantee is in much better condition then any 3.4L
3.8L ain't that much easier....
only 36 out of 113 cars are in the 14s... 14 of those are a 14.9XX, and the there are still 3 guys that run 14.89X
So only about 20 guys that run solid 14s, out of 113, that posted times, and I know there are alot mroe in the 16s still...
As much as people think it a 3.8L is not the end all motor that will give you 14s with a new shifter ***.
But as you said, you do have a new car.... which, I cna gurantee is in much better condition then any 3.4L
01-24-2003, 12:59 AM
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nino you beat me to it 
thank you for pointing that out, he acts as if someones 1/4 time isnt on the timeslips page that there arent anymore people in the 14s, I am well into the 14s..... well into them and i havent submitted a slip yet, i think mustang eater needs to stop getting his panties in a bunch and taking it so personally when someone says something that could possibly be a bad thing about the 3.4, He just takes it WAY to personally, get over it a stock 3.8 is better than a stock 3.4 anything you can do to the 3.4 you could do to the 3.8 and be faster just like anything you do to an lt1 and then do the same thing to a 3.8 the lt1 will be faster.. waaa waaa get over it 
thank you for pointing that out, he acts as if someones 1/4 time isnt on the timeslips page that there arent anymore people in the 14s, I am well into the 14s..... well into them and i havent submitted a slip yet, i think mustang eater needs to stop getting his panties in a bunch and taking it so personally when someone says something that could possibly be a bad thing about the 3.4, He just takes it WAY to personally, get over it a stock 3.8 is better than a stock 3.4 anything you can do to the 3.4 you could do to the 3.8 and be faster just like anything you do to an lt1 and then do the same thing to a 3.8 the lt1 will be faster.. waaa waaa get over it
01-24-2003, 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by bluecmaro96
nino you beat me to it thank you for pointing that out, he acts as if someones 1/4 time isnt on the timeslips page that there arent anymore people in the 14s, I am well into the 14s..... well into them and i havent submitted a slip yet, i think mustang eater needs to stop getting his panties in a bunch and taking it so personally when someone says something that could possibly be a bad thing about the 3.4, He just takes it WAY to personally, get over it a stock 3.8 is better than a stock 3.4 anything you can do to the 3.4 you could do to the 3.8 and be faster just like anything you do to an lt1 and then do the same thing to a 3.8 the lt1 will be faster.. waaa waaa get over it
nino you beat me to it
thank you for pointing that out, he acts as if someones 1/4 time isnt on the timeslips page that there arent anymore people in the 14s, I am well into the 14s..... well into them and i havent submitted a slip yet, i think mustang eater needs to stop getting his panties in a bunch and taking it so personally when someone says something that could possibly be a bad thing about the 3.4, He just takes it WAY to personally, get over it a stock 3.8 is better than a stock 3.4 anything you can do to the 3.4 you could do to the 3.8 and be faster just like anything you do to an lt1 and then do the same thing to a 3.8 the lt1 will be faster.. waaa waaa get over it
thats one of the things that makes the 3.4 so unique. it was made before that stupid OBD II was put in. see..that lets us 3.4L users do things that the 3.8 could never do without serious programming. so in effect i guess teh 3.4 IS better than the 3.8 in that respect. granted you will be able to get a little more power out of the 3.8. but ... lets say stock to stock. a 3.8 has 200 hp. the 3.4 has 160 hp. whoopdie do. 40 hp difference. and the 3.8 has 225 tq, the 3.4 has 200. ok so 25 extra tq on the 3.8. wanna know how many stock 3.8's i beat with my broken 3.4L? (when i had a misfire).
you 3.8 boys keep thinkin what you want. ive decided that a lot of the 3.8L owners (note i said a lot, not all) are just as bad as the v8 owners. just as snotty and snobbish. so yanno what. to all you that hate. **** off. this is my last post in this damn thread..ill let it go to hell in a handcart now. have a good day.
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01-24-2003, 12:44 PM
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i realize you said that was your last post, but i can tell you take it a little to personal. i was schooled one day at the track by a 10 second original VW bug
i dont go around telling people that if they own a bug they own a possibly fast car. anything is possible, and i know this. hell tiago and i are in the same damn car club! you really shouldnt hate V8 owners, most of the time, its not really their fault.
i dont go around telling people that if they own a bug they own a possibly fast car. anything is possible, and i know this. hell tiago and i are in the same damn car club! you really shouldnt hate V8 owners, most of the time, its not really their fault.
01-24-2003, 01:32 PM
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I know the timeslip page is not the bible....
But generally most people go put there timeslips up on there....
I get sick of when people start pulling the Ricer mod list out.
Yeah with a CAI and some 3.42s, I shoudl be running 14.7s.
Do I see it? I don't, in fact I have only seen 2 3.8Ls ever hit 14s, and one was supercharged, and talked to a guy that had one hit 14s(14.98 to be exact).
Most of them are in the low 16 seocnd range, maybe .5 of a second faster then the average 3.4L.
And I have to add I hope you are in the 14s, you have some serious motor work done to your car, heads cams
I know 3.8L stock for stock has more hp... and a ton of boltons. That is a little more then what the average modded car has.
But generally most people go put there timeslips up on there....
I get sick of when people start pulling the Ricer mod list out.
Yeah with a CAI and some 3.42s, I shoudl be running 14.7s.
Do I see it? I don't, in fact I have only seen 2 3.8Ls ever hit 14s, and one was supercharged, and talked to a guy that had one hit 14s(14.98 to be exact).
Most of them are in the low 16 seocnd range, maybe .5 of a second faster then the average 3.4L.
And I have to add I hope you are in the 14s, you have some serious motor work done to your car, heads cams
I know 3.8L stock for stock has more hp... and a ton of boltons. That is a little more then what the average modded car has.
01-24-2003, 01:55 PM
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Originally posted by MustangEater82
I know the timeslip page is not the bible....
But generally most people go put there timeslips up on there....
I get sick of when people start pulling the Ricer mod list out.
Yeah with a CAI and some 3.42s, I shoudl be running 14.7s.
Do I see it? I don't, in fact I have only seen 2 3.8Ls ever hit 14s, and one was supercharged, and talked to a guy that had one hit 14s(14.98 to be exact).
Most of them are in the low 16 seocnd range, maybe .5 of a second faster then the average 3.4L.
And I have to add I hope you are in the 14s, you have some serious motor work done to your car, heads cams
I know 3.8L stock for stock has more hp... and a ton of boltons. That is a little more then what the average modded car has.
I know the timeslip page is not the bible....
But generally most people go put there timeslips up on there....
I get sick of when people start pulling the Ricer mod list out.
Yeah with a CAI and some 3.42s, I shoudl be running 14.7s.
Do I see it? I don't, in fact I have only seen 2 3.8Ls ever hit 14s, and one was supercharged, and talked to a guy that had one hit 14s(14.98 to be exact).
Most of them are in the low 16 seocnd range, maybe .5 of a second faster then the average 3.4L.
And I have to add I hope you are in the 14s, you have some serious motor work done to your car, heads cams
I know 3.8L stock for stock has more hp... and a ton of boltons. That is a little more then what the average modded car has.
FWIW my 95 3.4L Firebird ran 17.2 all day long...and that was with a good RT and no wheel spin
I have seen alot of 3.4L's (especially A4's) in the 17's, and anyone who tells me that the average one came from the factory making a full 160hp is full of crap.
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01-24-2003, 02:15 PM
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I could care less about being the fastest....
Jsut this motor has been proven to run well, just never really made it in f-bodies.
there is a blown 3.4L S-10 running 12s, 300 hp 3.4L fieros, the RWD 3.4L is used in Kit formula one cars.
I have my stack of 16.8s-17.1s timeslips, when all I had was a flowmaster muffler.
my point isn't even about the 3.4L jsut forget what I said right up there, my point is in my 2-3 years being around v6 boards I see alot of people say 14s are easy... but I know people who have struggled to get into the 14s with a 3.4L, its not like just throwing on a muffler and doing a free ram air mod gets you it in a 3.8L...
I have driven/raced, and repaired a 3.8L, I know what it is capable of... Had one in parents driveway since summer of 2000, and have some timeslips on the shelf next to me right now.
Then someone comes along and says... "Don't you think I am in the 14s?"
then I see a mods list like this... That I do not consider easy and small...
PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS
SLP cold air induction
rk sport air lid
K&N air filter
MAF Translator Plus horsepower in a box
Taylor Spiro-Pro 8mm Wires (red)
Super Six Motorsports GM3800 PowerPak<---- not exactly your average bolt on
Clear Image Automotive headers and "Y" pipe
cutout--removed
O2 simmulator
3" catalytic converter
2 3/4" intermediate pipe
dynomax super turbo muffler
SLP remote fan switch
custom built 2800 stall torque converter
B&M transmission cooler
BMR shock tower brace (red)
BMR boxed subframe connectors (red)
BMR lower control arms (red)
BMR adjustable panhard rod (red)
rk sport lowering springs
SLP limited slip differential
bfgoodrich drag radials
3.73s
HPP3
Jsut this motor has been proven to run well, just never really made it in f-bodies.
there is a blown 3.4L S-10 running 12s, 300 hp 3.4L fieros, the RWD 3.4L is used in Kit formula one cars.
I have my stack of 16.8s-17.1s timeslips, when all I had was a flowmaster muffler.
my point isn't even about the 3.4L jsut forget what I said right up there, my point is in my 2-3 years being around v6 boards I see alot of people say 14s are easy... but I know people who have struggled to get into the 14s with a 3.4L, its not like just throwing on a muffler and doing a free ram air mod gets you it in a 3.8L...
I have driven/raced, and repaired a 3.8L, I know what it is capable of... Had one in parents driveway since summer of 2000, and have some timeslips on the shelf next to me right now.
Then someone comes along and says... "Don't you think I am in the 14s?"
then I see a mods list like this... That I do not consider easy and small...
PERFORMANCE MODIFICATIONS
SLP cold air induction
rk sport air lid
K&N air filter
MAF Translator Plus horsepower in a box
Taylor Spiro-Pro 8mm Wires (red)
Super Six Motorsports GM3800 PowerPak<---- not exactly your average bolt on
Clear Image Automotive headers and "Y" pipe
cutout--removed
O2 simmulator
3" catalytic converter
2 3/4" intermediate pipe
dynomax super turbo muffler
SLP remote fan switch
custom built 2800 stall torque converter
B&M transmission cooler
BMR shock tower brace (red)
BMR boxed subframe connectors (red)
BMR lower control arms (red)
BMR adjustable panhard rod (red)
rk sport lowering springs
SLP limited slip differential
bfgoodrich drag radials
3.73s
HPP3
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