I'm new to working on cars and using the technical terms. But what I lack in smarts I make up for in passion and drive. I'm taking a course on servicing engines and exhaust in March so I'm really excited. Can someone give me some information on the Camaro itself? What type do we 94 v6ers have? LS1?

 

You pretty much failed that test Mr.Auto Course... j/k The 94 V6 is a 3.4 Liter Engine producing about 160 HP at the crank (flywheel). Probably somewere around 140 to the wheels. The LS1 is a Camaro which is in an altogether different league. It is a V8 Camaro that didn't start producing until 1998 and you will know by the different body style. The LS1 is only offered in the Camaro Z28 or SS models. It's RATED at about 305 HP at the crank to keep their numbers lower from their Corvette father, however most LS1's REALLY have about 350 HP (Especially the 00's - 02's when they added the LS6 Intake Manifold) and probably put about 275 HP to the wheels.

 

The 94 v6 is an L67, if memory serves correct.

More info on the 60 degree family:

http://60degreev6.com/discussion/kb....de=article&k=1

 

If you read correctly, I"M GOING TO TAKE IT IN MARCH.

 

He was joking with you man

 

oh my bad

 

It's great to see another enthusiastic Camaro owner that wants to learn the hobby!

I'd recommend reading every FAQ you can find online, beginning with the one on this forum. The 94 3.4 is a fun car. I have one myself in addition to a second 94 Camaro Z28 6-speed. It also happens to be a convertible! I really love the Z28 and the V6 car.

The V6 car is fun! It constantly reminds me of my Z28. I plan to sell my V6 car soon because 4 cars in the corall is too many for me but if I was keeping it longer, I would do some simple upgrades to the suspension and install Z28 swaybars with poly bushings. I'd also get a used Z28 rearend with limited slip and disc brakes and swap it in the V6 car. Another easy upgrade is a 1 piece lightweight aluminum driveshaft. The stock V6 driveshaft is a very heavy 2 piece design. Any aluminum v8 f-body driveshaft will bolt directly in place. I already upgraded to 255 width tires, which is what the Z came with.

If you decide to do some upgrades, check out the "parts for sale" section of this forum. There are many V8 cars getting parted out there and you'd be surprised how cheap you can pick up the suspension pieces for.

You can turn your 94 V6 car into a pretty nice corner burner for cheap. I wouldnt bother trying to make it accelerate much faster though. The 3.4 liter motor is very dependable, but it is not known for its power or ability to be modified. High performance parts for it are few.

Welcome!

 

thats not what i seen around here. turbov6camaro.com. thats one mean machine.

 

That website focuses on the late 1995 and newer 3800 V6. Not the 3.4.

I agree, the 3800 can be made to be pretty fast.

 

So you firmly believe that it's impossible to take the 3.4 up to 300+ horse power?

 

impossible? no. There is only one way I can see to cost-effectively mod a 3.4 and that is to use parts off other GM FWD platforms, like the 3.1 I have in my 1996 Cutlass Supreme. With a few cheap junkyard parts you can get 200 HP at the crank of a 3.4L in a f-body. After the effort and expense you might be able to keep up with a stock 3800 V6 f-body. Now add a turbo and get 250 HP at the crank. 300 is a stretch, but with enough money and determination it is a possibility I suppose.

see this thread: http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=399894

 

It can be done. There was a thread here awhile back that showed all the flaws of the 3.4 and when they corrected them and the internal motor was able to breath a bit better, the power increased substanitially... I'll search it for you... Add forged internals, Heads, Cam, Turbo, Tuning and you can probably hit 300 HP... however you really need to ask yourself two things...

#1 - Does HP really matter?
There's a 3.8 on CamaroV6.com who's only putting down 240 - 250 RWHP yet he's pretty much eating LS1's alive from the dig... Why? Because he knows how to transfer power to the ground... Big numbers mean absolutely nothing but bragging rights ESPECIALLY if you can't get the power to the wheels... Focus on suspension, lighter flywheels and Stall Converters combined with High Gear Rations will REALLY get things moving, Go to the track's and practice your launches until you can perfectly do it without spinning, Keep experimenting, practing, improving your suspension until you can get your car to perfectly hook up and trasnfer the most power, and for the love of god make SURE you get decent tires... After that THEN you start slowly adding more power... This is why cars with substantially less HP are eating V8's alive as many of them focus to greatly on Horse Power which doesn't do squat until they get traction... when they're opponent is LONG down the road...

#2 - Will it really be worth it?
I'm in no way bashing your car or your idea's or motives but a 94 3.4 Camaro is what it is... Yes it definately has potential of being fast, but it was biult with the intent on being an economy car to satisfy the College student who wanted a Camaro. It was not biult to compete in all out horse power wars, destroy Vipers and Vettes, or any of the nature. This does not mean this is impossible for your car, it just means the market for your car is EXTREMELY limited for your goals. For your car to support 300 HP would nearly be biulding an entire new car, everything would have to be changed. It will get REAL expensive REAL quick and there's no easy way around it. Alot of things would have to be custom fabricated. Also Judging by the year alone of your car, you will also run into several problems that you will have to hang over, jump back, solve, and resolve. There will be nigh infinite problems and tweaks and nothing more than your own knowledge will beable to fix them as you will not beable to get the part you need from the average joe vendor. Also even after you break 300 HP, you'll be surprised how old it gets real quick and you'll want to make it faster through mods. However that would be an extremely tough nut to crack while keeping it streetable. You would have reached the engines maximum potential and have no modding room left. Then you will want to sell the car, however modded car's usually sell for LESS than Fair Market Value. Meaning the thousands and thousands you invested in making the car fast would have gone invane. I'm not trying to burst your bubble or anything but I wanted to make sure you fully explored the ramifications of doing this to your car and why it's extremely rare that it's accomplished. If I were you and wanted 300 HP, I would buy a Z28, LT1 or LS1 as both can EASILY see over 300 HP and the 6 Speeds still can see some decent economy when not driven like they were stolen...

Edit: Couldn't find a decent place to put this, but also with 300 HP you're definately going to need a Large Cam... meaning everything behind the Cam will need to be large too, including the Tourque Converter, and Rear End Gears... to get to best out of the Cam. You'll definately need Heads and a P&P job in the heads and intake, possibaly a bigger Intake Manifold provided one's available for the 3.4 and with that a larger Throttle Body, make sure the Throttle Body is Polished too! All the internals would have to be beefed up to support the power I believe. Rockers, Lifters, ect... Forged Internals for Boost... Larger Fuel Lines and Larger Fuel Injectors aswell as tuning to accomidate the Turbo, Air / Fuel mixture... I would also recommend underdrive pullies and a Electric W/P (if available to the 3.4) to minimize drivetrain power loss...

Good luck on your decision making...

 

Well put. My last post began getting long like that and I shortened it up because I didnt want to essentially say it is not worth it.

But think about it.. you spend $2000 replacing the pistons, heads, intake and installing headers to get 200 flywheel horsepower. Your car is still only worth $2500.

Why not just sell the car for $2500, add your $2000 to that and buy a newer lower mile $4500 3800 V6 car? Then you have the extra power, *and* a car that is worth $4500. At least you have a chance of recovering your investment.

While it is possible to mess with the 3.4, unless you have access to a salvage yard for free as well as all the tools to do the work yourself it's just not worth it.

On the other hand, if you do have a place to do the work yourself and can get a 3.4 from a 99 Grand Am GT for $500, spend another $300 on headers and have 200hp for around $800... that might work.

I guess it all depends on what your situation is.
The original question wasnt 200 hp though, it was 300. It would take an awfull lot to get 300. We are talking thousands worth of custom parts. Why not just buy a Z28? The 3.4 is what it is.