40 series flowmaster
Really depends one which one you want. Summitracing.com jCwitney.com Onestopexhaust.com Tbyrne.com etc, jeggs.com etc are a few web sites to start. I got my B&B from tbyrne at $597 after shipping.
Jcwitney has a pacesetter catback for a hundred and something.
Jcwitney has a pacesetter catback for a hundred and something.
IMO, Borla and B&B are a waste of money for a V6. They are ALL about the same performance wise. Go with either a flowmaster (loud and gurgly), dynomax (mellow) or edelbrock (slightly deeper than dynomax). They all are around $300 for the catback from summit or jegs.
B&B is stainless steel, remember, so if you don't have a problem with rust then you don't need it. But if you do, like me...and a few other people in the same area, then it would be a good investment. And, no longer having to pull my hair out over my exhaust (i'm picky about the sound), that makes it worth it.
I can't say if its the best sounding exhaust, but it is close to the sound I had in my head, and each time I drive it I'm happy with it.
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I can't say if its the best sounding exhaust, but it is close to the sound I had in my head, and each time I drive it I'm happy with it.
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Guess I need to add it in my signature?
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Flowmaster 40, had it for better half of 4 years now. I have digital sound files if you want to hear it at idle, barking, and also at redline.
The 40 series is louder and with more rumble than the 80 series. Bein' out with the club I got the chance to hear an 80 and my 40 side by side. And you can tell a differance.
You live with more resonance, but the 40 is a Mans' Muffler
If I had to do it over again, and will. I'll run the American Thunder system with the addition of 3" pipe, headers, and an off-road pipe. Should sound a lot meaner.
E-mail me if you wanna get the sound files.
I've Got One!!!
Flowmaster 40, had it for better half of 4 years now. I have digital sound files if you want to hear it at idle, barking, and also at redline.
The 40 series is louder and with more rumble than the 80 series. Bein' out with the club I got the chance to hear an 80 and my 40 side by side. And you can tell a differance.
You live with more resonance, but the 40 is a Mans' Muffler
If I had to do it over again, and will. I'll run the American Thunder system with the addition of 3" pipe, headers, and an off-road pipe. Should sound a lot meaner.
E-mail me if you wanna get the sound files.
B&B is stainless steel, but aluminum don't rust ( i don't think it does). I personally heard a 40 series and it was the total opposite. Mine was deeper and less raspier. The guy with the 40 series agreed also. 2000camaroRs, it's really up to you. If money isn't a issue with you, then get a borla or B&B. Otherwise, go with a flowmaster, edelbrock or dynomax. Like I mentioned before, they are ALL about the same performance wise.
thanx everyone for ur input...it has helped alot!! i'll probubly go with the edlebrock or try to get a good deal on a B&B...are these stainless steal?? and can they b assembled and stuck right pretty much?? also one last thing.....where is the backpressure lost (causing a loss of power) at the i pipe or the rear section to the mufflers?? i guess wut i'm asking is where should i get the 2.5'' pipes?
once again thanx alot for all of ur help!!!
once again thanx alot for all of ur help!!!
but aluminum don't rust ( i don't think it does).
LOL, I'm not sure either. All I know is that I don't like how the pipes on my blazer are looking. And a coworker bought a 40 series and pipes and he's already complaining about rust, etc.
Edelbrock is not stainless-from what I've heard. And, 2000camaroRS, I assume you own a 2000 camaro (
) , the catbacks only fit directly on for the pre 97. Though you can put it on with some modifications or maybe get a shop to do it. I heard that they sound good too. B&B is stainless and comes with pipes and tips and do make a direct fit...though my dad said it was a pain to get the pipe over the axle...otherwise he got it on.
Edelbrock is cheaper though.
I didn't notice a lose in back pressure (I went from stock to 2 1/2), maybe a gain in mid to upper range. 2 1/2" would be a good move, heck a lot of guys like shortdog have 3", either way it'll sound and perform better than stock.
does anyone that went from stock to 3'' notice a real loss in power?? and also how did he get it over the axle if its not built to bolt right on?? also where do u lose the power: when the i pipe is too big or when the rear outlet pipes are too big??
thanx
thanx
I didn't feel any loss in performance with the 3" pipe, but won't know for sure until I hit the track and compare 1/4 times. Keep in mind, I had a 2.75" V8 I pipe before the 3" and ran 14.9s-15.0s all day. I bought my 3" I pipe seperate from the rest, so my catback is pretty much custom. I got the dynomax I pipes for 80 bucks from advance auto parts. They come in two pieces, so getting the pipe over the axle wasn't a problem. I'm not too sure if other exhaust systems comes with two pieces for the I pipe. Most systems (even V8s) have 3" in/2.5 out muffler with 2.5" tailpipes, but my flowmaster muffler is 2.5" in/out (part 42583), BUT it necks up to a 3" right at the muffler. I honestly don't think the inlet size on a muffler makes a difference performance wise. My tailpipes are 2.5" also. A good muffler shop can make a 3" I pipe fit on a 2.5" muffler.
Also, check out www.fbodyv6.com and www.firebirdv6.com There are tons of info on those sites. Do a search and a bunch of stuff you're need to know will pop up.
Also, check out www.fbodyv6.com and www.firebirdv6.com There are tons of info on those sites. Do a search and a bunch of stuff you're need to know will pop up.
Last edited by shortdog273; Mar 24, 2003 at 08:02 PM.
thanx everyone for the input...but taking into account the price performance and sound i think im' gonna go with the flowmaster american thunder 80 series with 2.5'' piping back to 3'' tips. This will be sure to give me same torque at low revs, and even more power at high revs (i wont hafta really sacrifice anything). Thanks alot for ur input it was crazy helpful to me in my decision!!
its been swell
its been swell
You don't 'lose' torque power going with bigger pipe. You just notice a larger gain of top end horsepower. Sufficient enough that it feels as though the engine pulls harder up top, which it very well may. That don't mean you've lossed torque. You just don't feel it like the horsepower you've gained.
If you don't plan on doing some serious engine work there is no need for you to go with 3" pipe. 2-1/4 to 2.5 is all you will ever need.
Rusting tips and not indicative to any one exhaust system. It's the care that went into them and the quality of the tips - also the material plays a role.
Best thing to go with for long life AND good looks is polished stainless steel.
If you want chrome tips to last long, keep them free of water as much as possible, and a light coat of thin oil will keep them from rusting. = WD-40, machine oil, gun oil, etc.
If you don't plan on doing some serious engine work there is no need for you to go with 3" pipe. 2-1/4 to 2.5 is all you will ever need.
Rusting tips and not indicative to any one exhaust system. It's the care that went into them and the quality of the tips - also the material plays a role.
Best thing to go with for long life AND good looks is polished stainless steel.
If you want chrome tips to last long, keep them free of water as much as possible, and a light coat of thin oil will keep them from rusting. = WD-40, machine oil, gun oil, etc.
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