3800 series II dependability
the only bad think I can say about them is that the 3.8's do have a tendency to blow the head gasket late in life, but that is usually close to 200K and unfortunatley that is not something you can detect when looking into buying the car.. so I'd say do the usual when looking into buying it: take it for a long test drive with the radio of and windows down (so you can hear or small anything odd).. rev it hard a little make sure it performs..look at all of the usual suspects
if dealer lets you take it for a drive on the freway a stock 3.8 should have no problem getting upto 70mph on an average onramp (of course if you can fidn an on ramp with no cars on it) and should only runs upto about 3-4K rmp to do that.. then the car should hold cruising spped (say 60 or 70 mph) at well below 2(1/2) rmp at least that was about what my 97 3.8 would get and just of topic my 97 3.8 was getting well over 30mpg on the highway cursing
p.s. did you check out the appraise a used car on Edmunds.com as that has tons of usefull info
Last edited by smithtim; Mar 27, 2007 at 01:14 PM.
You can't guarantee it, but there are ways to tell. For instance, you can check the oil for bubbles. You can look for coolant seepage at the bottoms of the heads.
yeah good point; unfortunaltey most of those things can easily be cleaned up by the person seeling the car if they are evil... thats the main reason why I always buy used cars from bigger GM dealrships as they tend not to do evil stuff like as they have a rep to keep up. Also, in some cases they'll even give you something like a 5000 miles warnanty for free... sure your probbaly going to pay a little bit more net for the car at a bigger dealrship but that pcie of mind is worth it to me
I may only have 75k on my 3.8L, but trust me its been a long hard life and it still runs strong...
My only complaints, the CATs put on newer ones seem to suck, have heard from others as well, My 2nd Cat went out at 75k, since I have hptuners I said **** it and tuned it out, and gutted it.
Then the 5-speed, its an ok transmission if treated normal, but under heavy abuse it breaks. But then again, its under heavy abuse. Doubt they designed the car to go to the track as often as I have taken it, and run as hard.
My only complaints, the CATs put on newer ones seem to suck, have heard from others as well, My 2nd Cat went out at 75k, since I have hptuners I said **** it and tuned it out, and gutted it.
Then the 5-speed, its an ok transmission if treated normal, but under heavy abuse it breaks. But then again, its under heavy abuse. Doubt they designed the car to go to the track as often as I have taken it, and run as hard.
IMO I would take a 3.4 over a 3.8 neday, had 1 3.8 nightmare, never but 1 again!
Don


