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Old Oct 4, 2006 | 07:50 PM
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Oh, enough whining already about us "poor" F-body guys ..... sheeesh, you're making us sound like a bunch of cry babies who get hurt feelings when we get beat by someone else .

Face the facts. There are other cars in this world who ALSO run as fast, if not FASTER than our "almighty" F-bodies. Even if they only have 4 cylinders . But think about this, the new SRT-8 Charger, with the 6.1L 425 HP Hemi, barely runs into the 13's around ~105 mph ..... even THEY can get beat by one of their own (brand) with ~190 HP LESS than they have!!! Now THAT'S embarassing .

Bayer ..... time for heads & cam or some form of forced induction dude. Nitrous is only a "quick fix" and isn't legal on the streets anyways. Keep in mind, your bottle can run out ... their turbo will keep going and going .
Old Oct 4, 2006 | 09:22 PM
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Re: WTF!?!.... Was this race over before it started?!

Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
I realise that all they have to do is a cam and a diff turbo to bring them up to 300hp..... They just **** me off that THAT cheap a$$ car can pass a $25,000 V8 F-Body...I REALLY need more mods...I'm not running much anyway... But I've really wanted nitrous lately.
Even the playing field, you put on a turbo and a new cam lol
Old Oct 5, 2006 | 11:43 PM
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I never knew N20 was illegal to have in your car, hooked up, on the street.

I know a kid with a Focus that got it stickered at a fairly strict shop, no problem with n20. Hmm Owell.

While N20 is cool, I like the lumpy NA idle, or the whine from a blower better.

At the end of a long, hard, day, id rather get blown than sprayed.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 02:18 AM
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I didn't mean nitrous was illegal to have in your car ... I mean it's illegal to USE on the street. But so is street racing, and since when has that stopped anybody, right?
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 06:08 AM
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It's now illegal to have in your car here in GA thanks to a hysterical group that lobbied the state lawmakers. Their main push was the "fire risk," and if that failed then they said it was used only for illegal purposes.

Of course, if anybody had stoped panicing long enough to look at the facts, they'd know the nitrous oxide may accelerate a burn but it cannot burn by itself. The news stories presented it as if it was a tank of volatile fuel "right inside the car with you!"

Speeding is already illegal. Racing is already illegal. Why they felt compelled to ban a specific power adder is beyond me.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:10 AM
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Ignorance is bliss?

Some laws have such thin basis .
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 12:20 PM
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I would bet that 99% of people wouldnt know that, about it being illegal in GA. Even if you got pulled over, what are they gonna do? Ask you to pop the hood? And even if they did, I imagine you could pull the bull**** line, that inless they are a certified master mechinic, your not popping **** becuase your vehicle is under warrenty.

Fire Hazzard ... What a bunch a boners ... And driving around with a full tank of gasoliene is better right? N20 wont ignite until its mixed with another fuel, and is exposed to open flame.
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 07:22 PM
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Re: WTF!?!.... Was this race over before it started?!

Originally Posted by John M
It's now illegal to have in your car here in GA thanks to a hysterical group that lobbied the state lawmakers. Their main push was the "fire risk," and if that failed then they said it was used only for illegal purposes.

The news stories presented it as if it was a tank of volatile fuel "right inside the car with you!"
Imagine what they'll do when they find out about 20 gallon "tanks of volatile fuel" commonly referred to as gas tanks

Or how about those highly explosive airbags...
Old Oct 6, 2006 | 10:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Capn Pete
Bayer ..... time for heads & cam or some form of forced induction dude. Nitrous is only a "quick fix" and isn't legal on the streets anyways. Keep in mind, your bottle can run out ... their turbo will keep going and going .

Dang it.. you guys really are making it difficlut for me to make up my mind.... I REALLLLLLY want a D1SC Procharger... but it's $5,500 for the kit that I'm looking at. I also like the lope of a cam.... I was originally going to save a couple grand for a H/C setup for the spring.... My long term goals are H/C Blown LS1 W/ a forged bottom end and a small whif of nitrous or methanol to help further cool the air charge... Of course the bottom end and the heads will bump the compreession down a smidge. Although I have come this far to figure out what I want to DO w/ the car, I sill have to figure out what first.

THat's kind of why I'm piecing it. I could do the nitrous first... but then there goes the $$ for the H/C for the spring... The D1SC will most likely be bought next deployment... but I'll also need a new rear by then... that's $2,200... But the bottom end cant handle boost AND nitrous w/ a H/C... So it'll almost be the Boost, then the bottom end then the H/C, then the nitrous/methanol.

It's going to be around $19000 for everything I want... iiesh.. big number... TO finish the car that is. After all that I should be good.................... yeah RIGHT!...

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Old Oct 7, 2006 | 09:15 PM
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^ ^ ^ welcome to the Wonderful World, Viscious Cycle, Downward Spiral of modding!!!

My plans are likely a heads/cam setup, and eventually a larger displacement LSx, but still NA. If heads/cam, blower, and nitrous are required to satisfy to crave for speed? You're my f***** hero!!!
Old Oct 7, 2006 | 09:27 PM
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hey it could be worse... many tuners spend $50,000 or more making high HP imports
Old Oct 9, 2006 | 04:36 AM
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Re: WTF!?!.... Was this race over before it started?!

I beat a SRT4, i didn't think they were much, kind of funny because before i thought the celica was somethign to be scared of, yeah i barely beat the srt4 by a whole car length.
Old Oct 9, 2006 | 07:31 AM
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Re: WTF!?!.... Was this race over before it started?!

Originally Posted by Bayer-Z28
I realise that all they have to do is a cam and a diff turbo to bring them up to 300hp..... They just **** me off that THAT cheap a$$ car can pass a $25,000 V8 F-Body...I REALLY need more mods...I'm not running much anyway... But I've really wanted nitrous lately.
Those SRT4's are going for around $20k so they aren't that much cheaper than your F-body. They run decent even with no mods but with mods they are definately not a walk in the park.

I saw a vid of one that had a larger turbo, injectors, fuel system, DRs, lots of weight removed and she was running 10s. SO just beware...you never know what your gonna get.

And if money is an issue with your modding decision then I would suggest that you take a step back and look at all you want to do with your car. if you truely want to do the charger and nitrous, then get the motor yanked out and rebuilt to handle the boost and have a blower cam installed. Then get the charger installed and so on ,,,etc
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