Not sure what ya meant by that? A legacy looks pretty much the same size and are around the same speed stock, what did ya mean?

 

I think the reason there is so much hate towards theses car is'nt the car itself. Its nice to see a american car co. building cars that can compete with the japs at there own game. it seems it's the SRT-4 owners are the reason. Everyone seems to agree that most of them are very young. So that means most of them are'nt that expereinced in the car world and because its most likely the fastest car they've ever driven they automaticly think they're 14.0 second car is the fastest car on the road because they beat all of they're buddies fart piped hondas and such badly.For some reason they dont realize that LS1's are quicker stock for stock untill they meet up with one and then they're surprised.

 

Actually i think its (bitter diehard v8 guys) LT1, stang guys, and some LS1 guys getting there ***'s kicked by them ..Stage 2 and 3 kicks *** on these cars...and there nasty from a roll

 

Actually for me its the attitude I have gotten from the owners.
For instance their was a local guy that had one that had in gigantic letters on his rear bumper, "God made turbo lag to give V8s a chance." He was running high 12s with nitrous and other bolt ons (Obviously he could hold his own), but come on, that isn't enough in my book to talk **** on that whole market.

 

I was wondering does anyone know what kind of times St2 and 3 run when 100% stock?

 

Most guys that have SRT-4's really don't know much about racing in general. They are quick little cars and they simply cannot imagine something else utterly destroying what they consider "fast".

But what pisses me off is when you do find them at the track and they still talk smack...like "I was pulling you down hard"..yeap, that 14.1@98 mph was pulling down my 12.8@108 mph....and when you ask them how fast they were going @ 12.8 seconds...they have no concept...

Hmm...add your 1 second reaction time to the ET difference...do a little math = I being about a football field ahead = pulling me down HARD.

Heck, the other day @ Sam's Club, young guy pulls in with a SRT-4, talk to him, bs a little, told him I have raced a few SRT-4's before...he asked how they races went...told him I beat them pretty good them...HIS answer...must have been the drivers...YEAH YOU TOOL, JOHN FORCE IS NOT GOING TO MAKE A DIFFERENCE!...

 

exactly. thats why i love to see them lose.

 

Ooofta - what are you packin in there? That is one healthy horse....

 

Heres the basics. 310cid A4 shortblock,fox lake twisted wedges, paxton Novi 2000 22lbs of boost, dynamic C4 auto,tubular k member, ETC. conservative tune 690RWHp and 650Ft. lbs. best et last year on 4 year old slicks with a bad 60's (1.48) for a 9 second car it went 9.6@146. igot new slicks for this year and if i can get the 60's in the 1.3 range it should go 9.2. And the guy who tunes it said it has alot more in the tune and as soon as i get a 'chute he'll tune it to make the power to break 150mph. He just said let me know when you want to go 150 and I'll tune it up.
here some pics of it on cardomain
http://www.cardomain.com/member_page...page_id=762099

 

Think your missing the point. When the srt came out most v8 guys were like " Its still a neon" ...It just happens to be one quick one stock and one fast one w/ a few reasonably priced mods..Happen to think its a pretty sharp looking car to boot. It'll runs w/ /GT's/LT1's and w/ a few mods LS1's/ and pre 03 Cobras...Id buy a 96-03 Cobra, LS1, LT1, and maybe even a GT before I bought an srt, but thats still not taking away from them

 

I'd have no problem with the SRT-4 if it wasnt for every, I repeat, every owner I have ever spoke to talks out his rear like he's at the top of the food chain. If the owner came over and talked like lots of the Stang guys I know, with respect knowing that either car could possbily smoke the other, no big deal.

Like it was said above, all of the owners think they drive the Superman of performance automobiles, and with some extra boost, they will kill anyone.

Case in point the kid who lives in my area, knows so much about cars that when he had a Z24 he swore it had a S/C, and pointed to the Altenator as being it. He then buys a SRT-4, mods it a bit and talks crap about everyones car in town. Everytime I see him in town, he flies up on your bumper, rides you through town, rev's and burns out at stoplights and calls you out when he gets beside you. Saying he's beat every car out to date, LS1 Vettes, Z/28's, Cobras, Lightnings, and that they are all slow POS's, including my buddies AWD TSI Talon which I have to say would be a handful for alot of cars from a dig. Problem is he never raced my buddy, but says he beat him. So even though I have terribly bald tires, I call him out on the spot. Suddenly he doesnt want to race and starts asking what I have done. He insists I must have H/C to think I could run with him, and all I said was that I have a few bolt ons. Supposedly he's turned up his boost with a bunch of other mods I cant remember. I took him out to a secluded road and whats he do to win 2/3 races? Cheats and goes on the 2nd horn instead of the 3rd, but insists that its the 3rd horn, even though I was the one honking. Another showing of the SRT-4 owners integrity. The 3rd race I yell ready, set, go, and this time I pull on him from a roll like crazy, we left at exactly the same time, not such a tough guy when you dont cheat. He then insists he didnt know we were racing that time.

Anyways moral of the story is I respect cars that are quick from the factory, another one like the SRT-4 is the SS Cobalt running similar times to a LT1 stock with a S/C. But what I dont respect is the reputation of the owners, which leads me to dislike the car more and more with each one I meet. Just about every Stang I have ever raced has shared a mutualy respect with me that both of us have potental to win. But what I didnt say was I have a Z/28 and I'll toast your slow POS, like what I head from SRT-4 guys.

"That's it, I'm done." -Boiler Room-

-Dustin-

 

You won't have to worry about me talking s*** when I get one for a winter beater. I aint gonna say anything about it. I'll probally get a red or blue one and put a regular rear spoiler on it. But that will be in 2 years when I finish paying for my T/A though.

 

You dont have to when you have a Stang like yours

Sorry about the rant, but its not the car its 95% the owner's attitude.

-Dustin-

 

I mean a nicer ride in general. I've got cushy leather, a perfectly quiet interior even at WOT, not to mention all 4 of my windows are power (SRT = front 2 power, rear manual). The AWD was just icing on the cake. In return for all these goodies I paid $9k over the SRT4's cost. If I was willing to take a base turbo Legacy, it'd been more like $24-25k which is a much closer price.

Idiots drive all kinds of cars. There's only one SRT4 in town that I've seen and they haven't shown any interest in running.

I went to the 1/8th mile last Thursday to test my latest mods. I was instantly approached by a guy with a new Civic Si. "Hey, you wanna run?", obviously assuming I was a total newb. Playing along, I said "Sure!"

He high-fived his friends and they all laughed like they were all in on a joke I hadn't heard. Long story short, I bet it's pretty disappointing to lose by 2 full seconds in just the 1/8th. It looked like about half the track in my rear view. I didn't hear from them after that.

 

I know what you mean. I try not to talk to much s*** even though I have a 9 sec car. But sometimes when dealing with ignorant people sometimes I let my emotions get to me too.Pulling out a 9 sec timeslip shuts alot of people up. But if someone comes up to me and is cool and has respect for cars other than there own make I can talk to them for hours.I sometimes get home from cruise nights at 11 -12 o'clock even though 99% of the people left 2 hours before. My GF would be like where were you all this time? I'd be like I got talking to this guy and time flew bye.