This is really pissing me off. One of my good buddies has a 90 240sx with a black top sr20det. Full turbo back,bov, fmic, boost controller, im pretty sure it has cams ( lopes pretty good, but he wont admit to it, he says he thinks it does but hes not sure ) Anyways, he ran 13.8@103 on 8psi. When i raced he had 10psi, and the next time he had 12. The first time was from a 20ish roll i had passenger and pulled him ~ 1 car. Second time he had the boost turned up, i had a passenger also he got me by about ~1 car from a 60 roll. I know i should race him out of the hole but it was just us messing around. Anyways, one of my brothers friends dad has a completely stock lightning. And everyone is so confident that i am going to get pumped. I am pretty confident that i can take it if i dont blow the launch of break a rear. BTW i dont have the lt's anymore, and will have mac mids ory and a cutout before we race, and i ditched the 335's. What do you think, im pretty sure i can take a stock lightning.

 

Surely you can take a stocker. The story is interesting though. A friend of mine is buying a 240sx (gutted) and plans on putting some other turbo engine in it. He was talking like he would have 250 horse and was gonna stick it to me. I talked a lot of trash about it because more than likely he'll never do it, and I like to **** him off. He has a conspiracy out to beat my car. First he tryed with a prelude (and got his feelings hurt), then he bought a V6 stang which he was going to supercharge (he tryed to keep it secret), and now he's trying this.

 

if you go from a roll i give it to you, i raced a high 12 sec lightning from a 50 roll and got him by about 2 cars at 90, they suck at teh top end, 6 speed will get them from a roll. Now from a dig, they HOOK thats all ima say, but with 335's you should take him.

 

the stock turbo (t 25 i think) on an SR will support 235whp. They aren't good drag cars but fast from a roll. Good kill

TONY

 

My buddy, CANTONRACER's, L runs 12.80's and consistently puts 2-3 on me from anywhere above 50. It's sickening.

I'm running low 13's (teens/0's) pretty consistant.

IMO, they don't suck on the highway at all. Hell another buddy, GREASE, barely inches him at around 80 and his Z is in the low-mid 12 second range.

 

look at your trap speed, plus your an A4, my trap speed and my trans, my car kills high 12 sec lightnings, also look at my 60' if i had that 60' i'd be in the mid 12's lol

 

Being that I race both a f-body, albeit not the fastest one, but still strong(well, it used to be), and a 2nd generation Lightning, I sorta know how they both run.

Went to the track last night and ran a 12.705@109.84 MPH. My 1/8 MPH was only 86.03. This truck is pulling almost 24 mph in the 2nd 1/8...hardly no top end.

 

Not saying you don't. You stated that "they suck on the top end" and you actually believe this misconception. I realize it's a Ford and this is a Chevy forum but that's a pretty weak reason to spread misconception. If I was running 130mph through the traps i'd destroy lightnings - that still wouldn't make them "suck on the top end" - because - GASP - they don't.

 

I raced a Lightning a few times on the interstate from a ~60 MPH roll. He had exhaust but other than that I have no idea. Every time I slowly pulled on him but it wasn't a raping by any stretch of the imagination. Those trucks are pretty impressive, but I bet many Lightning owners fail to realize that aerodynamics and a ~4600 pound weight negate a lot of the power those engines produce. They're still very nice trucks though.

 

Timeslips don't lie....

 

We raced a bone stock lightning from a slow roll in my oldest boys 86 350 TPI T/A (mild cam, full exhaust, 342 rear gears,1.6 rockers).
The race was good from the slow roll, but he killed us when we started from anywhere from 40 on up. If we started slow we could put a few on him before he started catching up, in about the 1/8th we had about a half a car , if we had ran it out past that he would have beat us probably by 3 or 4 cars.

 

Im just going by my own experiences, I run a 13.4, the lightning was running 12.7's-12.9's all day. We lined them up at a 50 roll, I put it into third by the time I hit 4 grand I started pulling and pulled about a car out on this guy by the time I was shifting to 4th. I see lightnings at the track all the time running 12's with low traps. The first time I raced at the track I raced a lightning that went 13.9 or 13.8 at like 103(lost this slip), He had like a 1.9 60' versus my 2.3, he literally ripped me outta the hole by like 3 cars, but I pulled him hard all the way till the end of the track, they're STRONGER point is from a stop. Automatics are better from a stop. A manual car has a better chance from a roll if the power to the crank is similar and weight is similar. I've also witnessed lightnings rip EVO's out of the hole and get caught, EVO's aren't extremely good on the top end they're strong point with awd is also a dig, they get pulled by stock srt's, which I have also witnesses first hand riding shotgun. So IMO lightnings do not have a strong roll capability, maybe the TPI's power was falling off up top, I just have not seen any lightning guys out at the local races asking for roll races, they're arent srt's they make their race in the first 60'. If you disagree, thats your personal experience and opinion, this is what I have observed in my experiences.

 

My car on my best run in my sig went from 84.39-107.24 1/8 vs 1/4 and that was only my 4th time running the car down the track. I really dont know what to tell you about your truck, but its also trapping 109, I dont know what else my car has in it but thats what it did on a time slip. Also almost 24mph with a lower trap indicating what I see as a better top end for a lower trap speed. Im saying that your truck is pulling 109's and pulling 24mph while my car is pulling 107's and doing about 23mph on the second half, wouldnt you think that my top end is equal to yours when I'm running worse ET and trap speed, saying that a car with less power has an equal top end to a car with more power?

*edit- I'm not trying to start a flame war, if we could keep this respectful it would be a lot more civilized and mature.

 

No flames - those are for children. This is an opinionated discussion


Grease's car is pulling around 113 right now, still needs some tuning, but he only inches Canton's L at around 80. Now maybe you encountered some L's that, for whatever reason, didn't pull as strong up top. Could get good launches, low traps but still run good numbers, I could see that. There was a 'stang at the track last night going 12.80 @ 103.66 or so, I was hitting 105 but only going 13.15's - pissed me off lol.

Just in my experience - all bad hehe - Canton pulls me hard on the x-way.

 

Aerodynamics just don't matter a whole lot when you're talking 100-120 mph range. Figure out a Lightnings Hp/Weight ratio and I bet its 1/4 mile trap speed is very close to anything else that has a similar Hp/Weight ratio.