ChevyTuffD.A.

I have a friend who has a basically stock 95 m6 with unbolted exhuast and no filter or air box and to say the least is a pretty good driver. He raced my other friend with a 95 a4 with hypertech, headers and exhuast and cold air intake and the m6 beat him. Well then my friend with the auto said he went to the drag strip the other night and ran a 13.3. This means that the m6 must be running like a 13.1 or so bc he won by a car length or so/ What do you guys think?

Steve Y

It's possible. Bone stock LT1s have gone 13.4 at 102.

Antz97ZNJ

Your normal LT1 runs low 14's high 13's stock...some have dipped into the mid's....You'll never see anything close to a bone stock/or close to LT1 fbody running a 13.1 though....thats a great LS1 time let alone a LT1

dabez1

possible but not likely. Streetracing is really diffferent than track racing, but for a stock lt1 without Radials or weight reduction, 13.6 seems to be the fastest thell go with a great driver and perfectly running Lt1

ChevyTuffD.A.

Sorry i forgot to mention that the m6 did have BFGoodrich Comp TA drag radials. But i just cant see him running a 13.1, heck i hope to run at least that when i take it to the track. I cant see him beating me with all the mods that i have. How do you think i should do against him?

lovescamaros25

Must be a factory freak.Ive heard of stock lt1 running mid 13s ,but not low 13s.

Steve Y

It was not a stock LT1. It had unbolted exhaust, intake and DRs. It is possible with those mods. DRs can cut off .3-.5, intake and exhaust should cut off another .1-.3.

GreenDemon

I can imagine drag radials helping out that much, especially on a manual. When driving a torque-monster LT1, the launch is extremely important.

And most people that just pull off the intake all the way to the maf usually see better power gains than with a cai.

Who knows, though? There's nothing saying the other driver ran a 13.3 that time, is there? He could have run a 13.9. Only real way to tell is to take it to the strip and give it a few runs. My car feels faster than my friends that ran a 13.9, but I won't know for sure unless I go get my own timeslip.

96SilverRam

I agree it is possible, but unlikely that with the mods you suggested it would run 13.1's. I have a friend with a 97 formula that ran 13.59 @ 103mph with filter removed & flowmaster muffler on street tires. Nobody could believe it, but the time clocks don't lie . I personally have driven my 96 WS6 to 12.61 @ 108.6 nothing has been done internally to the motor. I have about every concieveable bolt-on you can do.

david97gsxr

street racing is no way to tell what a cars potential ET is.

i raced my friend in a 98 Ls1, on the interstate, from 60-100 we stayed side-by-side, then i pulled him a car by 120

but that night, at the track, i ran a best of 13.70 @ 100, and he ran 13.56 @ 102

also, i raced a 55 bel-air at the track, he ran 14.4 and i ran 13.9, but we crossed the finish line at the EXACT same time because i got a .520 r/t, and he got a .020(.000 being a perfect light on these clocks)

but he didn't appear to have much of a jump on me at the starting line because he had a HALF A SECOND better reaction time. that's a snap of the fingers.

your one friend ran 13.3, half a second slower than that is 13.8, which is about where your other friends car would be at stock.
and a 'slight' jump can be a big difference. if you're both going 50 mph, and one person jumps the gun and is going 53 by the time the other gets on it, they've got a pretty decent lead. 3 mph is theorectically 30 horsepower in trap speed, depending on how fast you already are.

but anyway, to sum it all up, there is no way to judge a cars ET from a street race.

camzaro28

this pretty much backs up what david97gsxr said. a couple of weeks ago i raced a guy in a 2001 ss. he said he ran 13.4 at teh track consistently at the track. knowing that i run a 14.2 he gave me a 2 car lead. and i beat him by a car and a half. then we went side by side and he jumped on me from the get go adn then didnt pull much at all from 10-100. just shows the differnece from teh track and street.
thats a 1 second difference adn we looked like the same 2 cars racing that night

ChevyTuffD.A.

Ok well i tried to race him tonight and we raced from a dead stop. We both kinda feathered it from the stop and then he gunned it and took off and then i hammered down and got no traction what so ever, i left 2 solid black lines that were about 100 ft long, i basically gave up after i realized i was going to lose due to the fact that he was already about 4 cars ahead of me by the time i accually started to get SOME traction. This is the first time i have raced this car since the new engine and stall so its obvious that i am never going to win any race without some drag radials. Now he thinks he is all big and bad and is gonna smoke me everytime. I just need to learn how to launch this car with the stall.

Antz97ZNJ

dr's help about 2-3 tenths, 3 to 5 your talkin about possible stall gains...even w/ those mods those numbers are still hard to believe....

lovescamaros25

Thats remarkable that you beat an ls1 at that high rate of speed considering ls1s are known for pulling on cars at high speeds.

david97gsxr

yeah, we thought it was weird too. if we had shut it down at 100 we'd of figured we were even, but i started to edge him out a little and was a car ahead by 120. i try not to analyze things too much. but it's possible that the reason i didn't run faster at the track than him is because i put drag radials on my car, and lowered them down to 16 psi, i meant to put them at 18 but i held one of them too long, and i didn't have a way to air them back up. and too low of pressure can hurt your topend. on the way to the track i was on street tires at 35 psi, (i had the DRs in the trunk/backseat)

so that could be something that made a difference, who knows. both our cars are 3.23 geared autos.