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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 03:20 PM
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Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

Not much to "woo" and "woe" over considering that I'm posting this on a website where you're not even noticed unless you're putting out 400rwp, but I'm mainly trying to prove a point.

I found these #s on a website earlier today. NOTE- all #s are WHEEL hp and PEAK hp...

CAI- 13hp

Exhaust- 20hp

Pulley- 6.5hp

Headers/Y-pipe- 17hp

Cams- 20hp


Although I'm pretty ashamed of the cams increase in hp, my point was that 300 FLYwheel hp is attainable with basic bolt-ons.

With the cams, well over 300 flywheel hp is possible, without, right around 300 should be no problem.

I'm also a little disturbed from their ETs with all of the mods. Their best run was a 14.1 @ 100. That's pretty horrible considering I've heard of guys running as fast as 14.2 @ 95ish bone stock, and have SEEN timeslips of consistant 14.4-.5s @ 95 stock.

Anyhoo, check out the site if you're so inclined...

www.nissanperformancemag.com

Look off to the left at project cars, and click on Altima 3.5 SE.



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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 04:51 PM
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Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

Originally posted by COMNBYU
Not much to "woo" and "woe" over considering that I'm posting this on a website where you're not even noticed unless you're putting out 400rwp, but I'm mainly trying to prove a point.

I found these #s on a website earlier today. NOTE- all #s are WHEEL hp and PEAK hp...

CAI- 13hp

Exhaust- 20hp

Pulley- 6.5hp

Headers/Y-pipe- 17hp

Cams- 20hp


Although I'm pretty ashamed of the cams increase in hp, my point was that 300 FLYwheel hp is attainable with basic bolt-ons.

With the cams, well over 300 flywheel hp is possible, without, right around 300 should be no problem.

I'm also a little disturbed from their ETs with all of the mods. Their best run was a 14.1 @ 100. That's pretty horrible considering I've heard of guys running as fast as 14.2 @ 95ish bone stock, and have SEEN timeslips of consistant 14.4-.5s @ 95 stock.

Anyhoo, check out the site if you're so inclined...

www.nissanperformancemag.com

Look off to the left at project cars, and click on Altima 3.5 SE.



Jon
Your #s are a little off for peak hp. I just checked out the link. Car has a manual transmission. 201 whp stock. 247 whp with full exhaust, pulley, and cai. 260 whp for full exhaust, pulley, cai, and cams. A very far cry from the 300+ whp that "heavy" claimed for full exhaust, cai and tuning. That must be some very serious "tuning"! The thing makes about 306 flywheel hp if you assume the standard 15% loss through the driveline. Very impressive gains for such small mods!

What does that thing weigh? It should be running low 13s at 104.xx with 260 whp IF it has a 3450 lbs. race weight. This is also assuming sticky tires and good gearing.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:31 PM
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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 05:41 PM
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Who cares?
You missed the heated debate we (Jon, Heavy, me, and others) had about this topic a while back. Jon is providing details to back up his arguement.

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Old Feb 23, 2004 | 06:16 PM
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Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

Originally posted by COMNBYU
Not much to "woo" and "woe" over considering that I'm posting this on a website where you're not even noticed unless you're putting out 400rwp, but I'm mainly trying to prove a point.

I found these #s on a website earlier today. NOTE- all #s are WHEEL hp and PEAK hp...

CAI- 13hp

Exhaust- 20hp

Pulley- 6.5hp

Headers/Y-pipe- 17hp

Cams- 20hp


Although I'm pretty ashamed of the cams increase in hp, my point was that 300 FLYwheel hp is attainable with basic bolt-ons.

With the cams, well over 300 flywheel hp is possible, without, right around 300 should be no problem.

I'm also a little disturbed from their ETs with all of the mods. Their best run was a 14.1 @ 100. That's pretty horrible considering I've heard of guys running as fast as 14.2 @ 95ish bone stock, and have SEEN timeslips of consistant 14.4-.5s @ 95 stock.

Anyhoo, check out the site if you're so inclined...

www.nissanperformancemag.com

Look off to the left at project cars, and click on Altima 3.5 SE.



Jon
Not to blow the parade but an RSX Type S with a hondata reflash, intake, Toda Header and a set of SMALL Toda's put down 230whp stock is 170 whp....60whp from a 2.0L with the same mods

Still good power from a family car though
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:11 PM
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Re: Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
Not to blow the parade but an RSX Type S with a hondata reflash, intake, Toda Header and a set of SMALL Toda's put down 230whp stock is 170 whp....60whp from a 2.0L with the same mods

Still good power from a family car though
Are you serious? What are the small toda's? What kind of intake? Do you have a link to support these #s? That is incredible. My car when stock put out about 230 rwhp. Now we have a 2.0 liter engine putting out the same n/a? Also, a modded 3.5 liter is only putting out 30 more whp? This seems far fetched.
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 08:43 PM
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Re: Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

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What does that thing weigh? It should be running low 13s at 104.xx with 260 whp IF it has a 3450 lbs. race weight. This is also assuming sticky tires and good gearing.
From my best guesstimate I'd say 260whp and 3450 lbs would be more like 13.7-13.8 at around 101.5
Old Feb 23, 2004 | 09:01 PM
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 07:54 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

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Are you serious? What are the small toda's? What kind of intake? Do you have a link to support these #s? That is incredible. My car when stock put out about 230 rwhp. Now we have a 2.0 liter engine putting out the same n/a? Also, a modded 3.5 liter is only putting out 30 more whp? This seems far fetched.
I'll try to find the link but basically the Toda A's are the mild street......Toda B's and Toda C's are available....so far 280whp has been made on street/strip cams and 13:1 compression with the new K20a2.....

Intake was AEM, Toda Header, Hondata reflash and Toda A's

Pretty sick gains 50-60+whp from the basics on a 2.0L lol

http://www.todaracing.com/products/h...camshafts.html Heres a link to TODA

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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 10:33 AM
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Old Feb 24, 2004 | 11:12 AM
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Re: Re: Re: Re: Altima 3.5 Dynos, For The Non-Believers...

Originally posted by SergioEK9B18C5turbo
I'll try to find the link but basically the Toda A's are the mild street......Toda B's and Toda C's are available....so far 280whp has been made on street/strip cams and 13:1 compression with the new K20a2.....

Intake was AEM, Toda Header, Hondata reflash and Toda A's

Pretty sick gains 50-60+whp from the basics on a 2.0L lol

http://www.todaracing.com/products/h...camshafts.html Heres a link to TODA
So they are getting 280 whp out of a 2.0 liter n/a motor? Amazing! My car should be making 644 rwhp to be equal! A 5.7 liter Chevy motor needs to make 798 rwhp n/a!
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 12:30 AM
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Yes steve, a 2.0L can put down 280hp. The new yamaha R1 puts down 180hp N.A. A boosted 1.3L hayabusa can put down 500rwhp safely(www.superkaos.com). You need to stop calling BS on every post and realize that just because your car doesn't do that doesn't mean that another car/bike/motor can't.
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Old Feb 25, 2004 | 06:07 AM
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Originally posted by juiced_lt1
Yes steve, a 2.0L can put down 280hp. The new yamaha R1 puts down 180hp N.A. A boosted 1.3L hayabusa can put down 500rwhp safely(www.superkaos.com). You need to stop calling BS on every post and realize that just because your car doesn't do that doesn't mean that another car/bike/motor can't.
the bike engines do that with considerably more rpm, though. personally, i think that the bike figures are over-inflated. most of the motors come in on the rw dyno (a dynojet, anyways) at about 85% of their rated countershaft hp. 15% loss is a bunch considering it has just a chain and a relatively lightweight wheel/tire combo. don't m6 f-bodies only loose 15-18%? and the bike's countershaft hp comes AFTER the transmission.



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