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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 04:32 PM
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Factory spec or factory produced? Well whatever. And since when does a turbo'd 4-cycl peak at 5500rpm? Thats big block v8 numbers, at that low of rpm. Why did the cameraman start to focus on the dyno computer, then pull away to a piece of paper?
You know I really don't care, if you guys what to beleve everthing you see that's your prob.
Hey how did you know I was a rocket scientist?
Old Feb 28, 2004 | 06:36 PM
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Originally posted by Big Red Jim
And?

Shaun Carlson is using the stock crank, and he doesn't make 800 horsepower. He makes over 1,000. Stock crank, block, and head.

You obviously know very little about forced induction engines.

T Ladies and gentlemen, we have a rocket scientist on our hands!

Oh, all sorts of ways. Exhaust valve timing, overlap, etc.

This can also be accomplished with ignition timing as well as how rich/lean it runs. Or with a different turbo manifold, downpipe, etc.
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Old Feb 28, 2004 | 06:39 PM
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Originally posted by Shockley35
And since when does a turbo'd 4-cycl peak at 5500rpm?
Whoever said that?


Originally posted by Shockley35

Why did the cameraman start to focus on the dyno computer, then pull away to a piece of paper?
Who knows, who cares?


Originally posted by Shockley35

You know I really don't care, if you guys what to beleve everthing you see that's your prob.
We don't believe everything.
Old Feb 28, 2004 | 10:44 PM
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I thought we were having an intellegent disscusion about the subject, but I see I was wrong. I'm guilty of tring to keep the disscusion on an intellegent level, but I see this is not the place for that. I appologize.
Old Feb 29, 2004 | 09:59 AM
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Originally posted by Shockley35
I thought we were having an intellegent disscusion about the subject, but I see I was wrong. I'm guilty of tring to keep the disscusion on an intellegent level, but I see this is not the place for that. I appologize.

Maybe if you were acting intelligent we could have an intelligent conversation with you!

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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by Big Red Jim
And?

Shaun Carlson is using the stock crank, and he doesn't make 800 horsepower. He makes over 1,000. Stock crank, block, and head.

The block only lasts 15-20 passes at that power level. That tubeframed, fiberglassed body, 2000lb dragcar isnt even relevant to this conversation

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Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:49 PM
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Originally posted by meengreen 94z
The block only lasts 15-20 passes at that power level.
Proof, please.

Originally posted by meengreen 94z
That tubeframed, fiberglassed body, 2000lb dragcar isnt even relevant to this conversation
And just what relevance does a tubeframe, fiberglass body, or the weight of it have to do with the power production I mentioned with various stock parts? Nothing.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 03:56 PM
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it seems the SRT-4 is the 03 Cobra of the 4 cylinder world
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 05:12 PM
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Originally posted by Big Red Jim
Proof, please.

And just what relevance does a tubeframe, fiberglass body, or the weight of it have to do with the power production I mentioned with various stock parts? Nothing.
Thats the case with the ecotec, B16, etc. powered 4 cylinder drag cars. They go through new blocks every 15-20 passes at the 1000+hp level. I dont see that 2.4L being any different. All that drag car has in common with the street car is the block, and if I read correctly a cast crank which I dont see holding up to 1000+hp. Comparing a drag car to a street car is irrevelant because reliability is not an issue. Not to mention that car probably has well over 100k in the chassis alone.

The owner of the yellow SRT4 has plans to soon try for 600whp but doesnt know how long it will last, if it all. He recently upgraded the tranmission, axles, etc. so he can run stickier tires at the track.
Old Mar 2, 2004 | 10:21 PM
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Thats the case with the ecotec, B16, etc. powered 4 cylinder drag cars. They go through new blocks every 15-20 passes at the 1000+hp level. I dont see that 2.4L being any different.
I ask for proof and you provide me with speculation. Thanks for proving my point.
Old Mar 3, 2004 | 06:46 AM
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I ask for proof and you provide me with speculation. Thanks for proving my point.
And do you, someone who apparently knows everything about the SRT4, have any proof otherwise? Im not going to bother to look it up, but I bet you anything Im right.

That 5.0 block(if it is still a 5.0) in your mustang wont last long much past 650rwhp(750bhp). An LT1 block wont reliably last long much past 1000rwhp(1150-1200bhp). So your telling me a motor with half the displacement from cheap ole dodge is going to hold together fine past the 1000hp mark?

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Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:13 AM
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The burden of proof lies with the one making the claims, not the one disputing them

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Originally posted by meengreen 94z
And do you, someone who apparently knows everything about the SRT4, have any proof otherwise? Im not going to bother to look it up, but I bet you anything Im right.

That 5.0 block(if it is still a 5.0) in your mustang wont last long much past 650rwhp(750bhp). An LT1 block wont reliably last long much past 1000rwhp(1150-1200bhp). So your telling me a motor with half the displacement from cheap ole dodge is going to hold together fine past the 1000hp mark?
Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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Originally posted by yellavette
The burden of proof lies with the one making the claims, not the one disputing them

Jason
Old Mar 3, 2004 | 10:56 AM
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I second what yellavette said.
Old Mar 3, 2004 | 12:22 PM
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but arent YOU making the claim that the SRT-4 will reliably hold 1000HP or whatever??And hes disputing that claim.



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