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Jet-Hot Brand LT1 Header Experience - FYI

Old Nov 26, 2003 | 06:48 AM
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Exclamation Jet-Hot Brand LT1 Header Experience - FYI

It has been several weeks since I had dealt with this issue, so I am calmed down now. However, I think I should make people aware of my issue.

After researching the web for 6 months for headers and reading the forums. I decided to buy headers for my ’95 LT1. I purchased the Jet-Hot headers for a ’95 LT1 w/out emission tubes, Hooker y-pipe, and O2 extenders back in August from Chris. I was very happy with the transaction, speed of delivery, and appearance of the product.

I arranged for a well known shop (been in magazines and such) here in the Detroit area to install the headers for me. They had installed numerous sets of Hookers on LT1s before but this would be their first experience with the Jet-Hot brand. The passenger side header worked out great. When the driver side header was installed, a problem was obvious. The header exit was close to the floorboard and pointing at an upward angle towards the floorboard. The flange was actually touching the floorboard. I called Chris and he immediately sent me out a replacement part (I had to pay for the new part until other was returned – which was no problem). However this delayed everything by almost a week and I am without my car for even longer.

The shop pulled off the driver’s side header and installed the replacement. The same problem was evident. The shop went through the car, checking that there was nothing wrong with my motor mounts or anything else. I was now very upset because I didn’t have my car back for a race and I still had to figure out how to resolve this problem. I called Chris again. I had him send me a set of Hookers (and he did so at no charge to me) because he had no idea what the problem was and I didn’t want to keep wasting the shop’s time or mine. After more time passed, the Hookers arrived and were installed with no issues. There is now sufficient clearance from the floorboards on both header banks.

I returned all of the Jet-Hot headers back to Chris and was waiting until he received them before finding out what happened. I never did hear back if there was a manufacturing defect with the parts or not. Because of my troubles, I figured I would get a break on something. I guess I received a $50 discount on the Hookers, but that doesn’t come close to the additional $275 in labor I had to pay the shop for installing and removing the Jet-Hot headers several times and the time I was without my car. Working as an engineer in the automotive industry, if my company has a bad quality part that costs the OE customer time and/or money – we are expected to stand behind our product and make things right. This was not the case with Jet-Hot. The slight discount I received did not satisfy me at all. I am left not wanting to do business with Jet-Hot or use their brand of products again.

Here is my advice: Beware if you are buying the Jet-Hot brand headers to save a little money. In the long run it cost me several hundred more than if I had gone with the Hookers in the first place.

Mike - Michigan
Old Nov 26, 2003 | 09:24 AM
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I will reply to this very quickly. I remember this person very clearly. We shipped headers to the customer and were informed that the one header did not fit correctly. I had shipped out a new Jet Hot header while sending a call tag to bring back the other header. After the 2nd header was received, he stated he still had a problem on the install. He requested to return the Jet Hot headers and get the Hooker headers. I had no problem with the exchange. Due to the problem, I got the headers in, coated and shipped right out without charging the credit card. In the mean time, I sent a call tag to get back the 2nd set of headers. We had agreed that I would end up charging a total of $580 for the Hooker headers to the door. Any additional money was to be refunded (and was). The customer called and wanted to get some additional money refunded due to the additional time needed on the install. He asked for the $25 Jet Hot coupon to be used, I agreed. The new total ended up being $555 to the door. Looking at the normal prices, we charge retail $684 for the Hooker headers to the door. The Camaroz28.com members price is $628 to the door (I honored the old price of $580 for this customer). As far as the Jet Hot headers are concerned, we did send them back to have checked. It was found that the headers were bent correctly. I do not have any reason why the headers did not fit into this customer’s car. In dealing with a lot of header manufactures, you would not find any other manufacture would have gone as far as Jet Hot. Keep in mind, even after the 2 header was received, you could have had the headers returned for a full refund. Jet Hot has always tried to work with the customer when a problem should arise. You ended up getting Hooker headers for Jet Hot’s cost with almost no coating cost (factor the normal cost of the headers(Jet Hot’s price), plus the shipping to Jet Hot for coating and shipping to the customer) . I’m sorry you feel the way you do, I don’t know what else I can do for you at this time. If you want to return the Hooker headers (as long as they are not damaged), I will issue a refund.

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Chris
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Old Nov 27, 2003 | 06:07 AM
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Vlademar is prolly the type that eats at McDonald's then when he's finished he'll complain about the food to get it for free.
Don't mind him Jet-Hot, there are enough happy customers around here (me included).
Old Nov 27, 2003 | 09:50 PM
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Even if the shop would have installed the header on the driver's side you would have been driven crazy by the slip-tube leak
I just had mine welded up so it wouldnt leak and it was the hardest install I have done yet on my car.
I know this really isnt Jet-Hots fault but something does need to be done about the leaking slip-tub..Too many people experience it and mine was soo bad it rattled like crazy..Oh well, its fixed now
Chris did send me a replacement header after my first set leaked but the replacement was just as bad if not worse..Then I thought maybe my last set of heads were off in geometry just a little causing it too leak but after a new set of heads it was the same...He did everything he could to help me out though, so I do commend him on that.

-Cody
Old Nov 27, 2003 | 11:25 PM
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I had a good experience with my Jet Hot headers. They are one of the few companies that you can call and actually talk to someone who knows what they are talking about. I think I am going to buy a set of headers from them for my Dad for Christmas to put on his '68 camaro.

Dustin
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 12:23 AM
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I'm glad I put my own Jet-Hot product in and everything fit fine. After looking back on it, it wasn't hard at all. I took on this project with little patience and it all worked out fine. I love my Jet-Hots. And if they came out with another product I wanted, you can gauren-damn-tee I will buy it.
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 12:42 AM
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My passenger side went in fine, however my driver's side was a nightmare, and the collector flange was hitting the floarbard, not to mention about 1" from my crossmember in the body. So I cut the collector, took out about 1 1/2" - 2" of the collector, moved it back and turned it so the flange wouldn't hit. Haven't had a problem with the slip fit yet, I'll use some RTV sealant of some type for added insurance. I'll see how it goes. They sure were nice before I got my hands on them and scratched them to hell trying to make them fit.

Overall, I think I'm pretty satisfied.
Old Nov 28, 2003 | 02:27 PM
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Vlademar sounds like a real cheap azz, jet hot has always done well for me.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 01:44 AM
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Same here.... my Jet Hots went in perfectly and only took a little more effort on the passenger side. Over all Im really happy with the headers other than the driver's side leak. I'll have that welded up when I get a K-member.

-B
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:53 AM
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your motor mounts were shot. i dont care if your shop thinks they were ok. our motors torque to one side, and when that crushes the passenger side motor mount, and stretches the driver side, that is why the driver side header is usually too high under the car, and the passenger side is tough to get in.

get new poly motor mounts, and with you engine in the right place, the headers should be fine.



as for the jethots.......i have them, and they are a nice header, for a decent price..........but the slip-fit crap pisses me off to no end. when i pay $500 for a set of headers, i shouldn't have to spend my time/money searching for a way to fix this leak.

jethot should send us all some band clamps or whatever people are using to seal up the leak (rtv isnt good enough). this should be included with the headers in the first place. i know not everyones leaks, but a hell of a lot of them do, so the company should do something about it.
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 10:03 AM
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I'm thinking I might change to a BMR K-Member and poly mounts here soon, should take care of any clearance problem.

I assume I can just hold the engine up as I rip out the old k-member right?
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:09 PM
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if you guys are having problems with fitment i can almost garuantee that is motor mounts. They collapse and cause the engine to sit wrong, thus angling things like collectors into the floorboard. I had this problem and replaced both my mounts, fixing that issue and a clearance problem with the kmember. It is not jethots fault, look into other possibilities before pointing the finger.

I like my jethots!
Old Nov 29, 2003 | 08:40 PM
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Mine were, and still are perfect, after several months of use. No leaks, no clearance problems, they are EXCELLENT.

If your motor mounts are perfect, maybe your frame is bent ???

It is not the headers.
Old Nov 30, 2003 | 04:15 AM
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How far from the floorboard do most peoples headers sit? My driver side is pretty close to the floorboard (1/2"?) and I installed brand new poly mounts (engine and transmission). I just want to know if it will be possible to use the hooker y-pipe or not.
Old Nov 30, 2003 | 05:12 AM
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I currently have had 2 set's of Hooker LT's.. Both coated by jet hot.. ANd have installed a total of 4 Jet Hot LT's on both LS1 and LT1 car's.. The fit and finish of these headers are top notch.. ONe i have never had a problem w/ the floor board issue.. Like stated abovethats a motor mount issue.. I have cured my leaky slip fit.. Summit sells' a 1 3/4 inch t bar clamp made by supertrap its not that cheap but coat the slip fit w/ rtv liberally of course.. and then clamp it till you see some oozing out.. then let sit for 24 hours.. Preferably use the orange RTV.. doest a lil better w/that high heat situation's..

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