Anyone looking for a job?

I have openings for concrete mixer drivers at Rinker Materials.
Locations all over the Orlando area as well as other parts the state.

Requirements:
Class A or B CDL minimum.
Fairly clean license and background.
Some driving experience prefered (if not we can train).

Pay starts at $11.84 hr
Lots of hours and overtime
To many benifits to list
Great oportunities to move up to other positions. (sales,operations,dispatch,service rep)
EOE

E-mail me at rlong@rinker.com if your intrested.

Thanks,
Russell

 

$11.84 an hour?
No offence but that seems alittle low.
I mean you want someone who may give a crap about not killing someone else with a 66 thousand pound truck.
Pre trip truck and care if they find anything wrong with it.
Its not just you or Rinker, but when are Florida employers going to wise up and start paying real wages.

 

The guy was nice enough to let people here know that his company is hiring and you have to say that?

$11.84/hr. with some overtime is probably in the mid-to-high 20s, which is what most jobs here in FL pay if you're unskilled, and driving, for the most part, is unskilled labor. Most people who took the time to get a heavy truck license probably do give a crap about manuevering a 30-ton truck and there's no need to overcompensate them for that, unless they're hauling HAZMAT.

FL employers do pay real wages, you just have to be qualified to earn them.

 

I understand where your coming from but like I stated above there are more benifits I just didn't want to have to go through them all but here it is.

Pay is $11.84 an hour
Anything over 9hrs a day is overtime,anything over 40 hours a week is overtime.
Saturdays are time and a half.
If a driver starts between 5pm and 2am drivers get an extra 0.75 an hour for the entire shift.
Company paid pension program
Company paid uniforms
Company reimbursement up to $50.00 a year for safety boots
Company reimbursement up to $150.00 every 2 years for safety prescription glasses.
Safety incentive programs to earn cash and gifts
Medical cost of the driver is $10.00 a week and the insurance covers the whole family. The deductible is $250.00 per person or $600.00 for the entire family.

The drivers have the opertunity to enter the local laboros union #767 as well.

As far as the concrete industry Rinker is the highest paying concrete supplier when you add in the pay and all the benifits. Most of the other suppliers only pay a hourly wage and thats it. When you figure all our benifits as an hourly wage its well over $20.00 an hour. We could easily pay them that an hour but the drivers union is the one splitting up where they want the money to go. Most of my drivers are averaging around 60-65 hours a week.

PS. I totally agree with you on the wages. They seem low until you see what their pay checks come out.

 

Got any locations around tampa/clearwater?

 

Crap if I wasn't sick I'd look into it..

 

Yes I felt I needed to say that.
That same job in many northern states would pay close to $20 and hour.
Driving a class 8 truck unskilled labor?
On what planet? You want unskilled labor behind you or your family in your family car?
You want a driver who makes crap for a living pre tripping his truck? Do you even know what pre tripping is. Or post tripping?
You ever held a CDL licence?
There is alot to it. And sorry but 11 bucks an hour is going to get you what you pay for. Not much.
I ran the largest fleet in Brevard County for 10 years and saw what crap wages got you.
Drivers who dont care. Drivers who laugh and carry on at accident scenes where they damned near killed people.
Drivers who ran trucks into the ground and could have cared less because the job didnt pay enough to care.
Drivers who died because they got one week training in a parking lot and then got the licence but ultimatley couldnt handle the truck in traffic and rolled them.
Its not just Rinker or Waste Management but all the driving outfits that want to be held to a standard set by the shareholders and not the saftey of the drivers and the community that they operate in.
The first way to instil a safe attitude is to pay enough to make a driver care about not killing people.
Do you have any idea what a garbage truck or mixer costs? I do. $200K and up.
Thats what a Rolls Royce costs. If you owned a RR would you let some 11 buck an hour loser drive it?
Plus drivers can only drive so many hours in a day by DOT standards. How much over time can they get? Very little legally.
How long have you been in the trucking industry? How many people do you know in the trucking industry?
Do some reading on the causes of accidents in the heavy truck industry and how much one deadly accident can cost a company.
Then come back and tell me something that I dont know.

 

Seeing as I know exactly what 60 to 65 hours a week feels like.
Its not worth it.
We ran 6 day a week schedules for years. Only until the unions came in and bargined for 5 day weeks did the change come about.
No Iam not pro union at all.
Last time I checked DOT regs allowed for only 60 hours a week.
I was in management and made conciderably more than 11.84 an hour, but still had to put in over 60 hours a week.
It sucked. Yes the checks were great but it took quite a toll. Not on just me but all of us. Plus my family.
Not untill I got away from it did I realize what it took away.
I know Teamsters 767 real well and wouldnt trust them as far as I could throw them. They dealt away employee benefits at WM like a deck of cards to get the dues check off. Dues paid straight to them instead of the employees paying it themselves.
We had many drivers with decades in who got 4 weeks of vacation reduced to 2 week max for everyone.
Insurance deductibles went through the roof for union drivers. Many actually made less money when it was all over with.
The company forced to rehire dangerous drivers because of some technicality with a firing.
Points systems to fire a bad driver. It took forever to get rid of someone who was a danger to the public and to themselves and other employees.
These are not toys. They can run right over a car in a heart beat. I have seen it personally. I have been to the accident scenes and watched the blood run down the gutter.
On top of that I was the one with the company credit card spending share holder money on repairs because the inexperienced drivers were out there tearing transmissions out right and left.
Running on flats and taking out a couple of more tires because they wanted to get back to the yard to go home.
Drivers who cant read english filling hydraulic tanks with diesel and vice versa.
Drivers with massive hydraulic leaks driving down the road because he was in a hurry to get to the next stop and not watching the dash and causing accidents behind him from cars sliding on the oil.
Driver backing down a one way street with helpers on the back. 2 months after running over a helper and just comming back to work from the mental break down over running down a helper.
Do you know what the tandems of a class 8 truck can do to the human body?
It aint pretty.
Sorry to preach. But these are real incidents, I was a witness too.
All because we hired guys and paid them BS money. Because we were a publicly held company with share holders to account to.

 

Yes, there are quite few in Tampa,Ft Myers,Clearwater. Your best bet is to check your local phone book under concrete supplier. They may have openings in salary positions as well. I have phone numbers for that area but I don't know whats closest to you.

 

High Strung

"Last time I checked DOT regs allowed for only 60 hours a week."
Actually the only reg is no more than 15 hours on the road driving in one shift and the driver has to have at least 8 hours off between shifts.



We had many drivers with decades in who got 4 weeks of vacation reduced to 2 week max for everyone.
Our drivers get (been this way and only gettes better)
1 year service= 1 week
2 years =2 weeks
3 years= 3 weeks (was 5 years but changes to 3 last week)
15 years=5 weeks(was 20 years but changes to 15 last week)
And so on and so forth.

"Points systems to fire a bad driver. It took forever to get rid of someone who was a danger to the public and to themselves and other employees."
Yes, we have a points system as well however if the employee is unsafe I have the choice to terminate bypassing the points system.

"They can run right over a car in a heart beat. I have seen it personally. I have been to the accident scenes and watched the blood run down the gutter."
As an Plant Operations Manager i have seen my share as well. Out of all the ones I have been to not one was the fault of our driver. Generally it is the other driver(general public) that is usually at fault. I can remember 3 deadly accidents in the past few years. One was in Sanford where a guy on a cell phone crossed the line and went head on to a truck, another was on 95 in Brevard where 3 ladies in a station wagon lost control and head on into a mixer. Another is a girl in a VW bug that crossed the line on SR535 and head on into a mixer.
FDOT inspected every one of theose trucks and guess what they found. Not one problem. I check every DOT card every morning and sign off on them. These trucks are probably safest in the entire concrete ready mix industry. If you want to talk about unsafe drivers lets look at the school bus drivers. Those drivers scare the hell out of me.

"On top of that I was the one with the company credit card spending share holder money on repairs because the inexperienced drivers were out there tearing transmissions out right and left."
I do the same thing. That is why I spend ALOT of that money training it saves on repairs down the road.

"Running on flats and taking out a couple of more tires because they wanted to get back to the yard to go home."
You will never see this happen here

"Drivers who cant read english filling hydraulic tanks with diesel and vice versa." I don't know what company you worked for but I have yet to hear of this happening at any of our plants.



I am unsure what company you worked for but if you ever see a Rinker concrete truck around ask the driver about our safety programs,ask him about his pay and benifits, ask him how he feels about the company.
Different states do pay different. Our Vegas division pays about twice as much. However, The cost of living out there is about twice as much as well.
I have friends that work for companies up in northern part of the US and yes they pay a little more as well but they are also closed for the winter. I'm not saying my company is perfect but I do know for a fact that we as a company go above and beyond what the FDOT,OSHA,FDEP,and any other regulated industry standards. We have the best safety program of any company in our industry which has gained us many awards from various industry leaders. As an operations guy myself I spend most of my days keeping my drivers safe and happy, keeping the public safe. As for salary pay. Let me put it this way. My wife went to UCF and recieved a degree in teaching. A friend of mine went school to become a fire fighter, another friend is a police officer for Melbourne PD. My starting pay was more than any of the three above and I never went to college. If you want to complain about pay start with the teachers,police officers and figher fighters. They are the ones getting thet shaft.

If you want a tour some time please e-mail me. Alot must have change since you have been in this industry.

 

Wow, High Strung, you screenname says it all I think. You need to calm yourself down. Flals1 is obviously working for a good company and is trying to help people out by posting jobds. Just because you had a bad experience with the truck driving industry doesn't mean you need to come in here and slam someone else for posting about jobs in the same field. If you hate it so much I hope that you aren't still working in that field. If you are, then why? It's not that hard to get another job.

I had thought about getting into truck driving, but I never got aroudn to getting my CDL. I ended up finding something I enjoy doing more that makes more money(without a college degree). And I have to agree with Flals1 that if anyone is getting the shaft, it's teachers/police/firefighter's and other gov't paid positions like that. They raise our kids, protect us and save our lives yet we pay them crap money. It's a shame.

And $11.84/hr plus the benefits he posted is pretty good for starting pay not requiring a college degree. It's not a huge amount of money, but if you want a big paycheck you're not going to be driving a truck anyway! It's a good paying job for someone, plus really good benefits. Don't bash on someone else just because you had a bad experience, it's just imature.

 

I would like to know what was immature about anything I said?
I left a division of Waste Management in Feb of this year.
My experience is current.
I also didnt "bash" any company. Its the same everywhere.
I have also heard that Rinker is a good place to work and has a safe work environment.
So before you turn this on me, I can tell you that you know nothing of what you speak, Camride.
My opinion is drivers of heavy trucks should be paid better.
Better paid drivers are usually of a better class of driver and you will have a better saftey record with them.
I know of other cement companies that pay alot less and have killed people in this area. One driver almost tore the leg of a little girl as she was exiting a school bus in Palm Bay.
She will never walk right again.
And by the way my over all experience with the trucking biz was a very good one.
I plan to go back to it soon after I move.
But my contention is that is not enough money to start an experienced driver at. And running someone 60+ hours a week is just plain not smart.
Burn out is a common problem with drivers. Why do you think he is posting that he needs drivers. No one wants to work those kind of hours for years on end. I know I have done it. Try it sometime.

 

BTW Cam, High Strung was a name of one of my tall 4x4s. Has nothing to do with me as a person.
Personally I hope he finds some good drivers, but the reality is not many people want to do that kind of work any more.
Same in the maintenance dept of those companies.
So when you say my screen name "says it all", fine.
Iam passionate about safe driving in trucks and in the trucking industry as a whole.
I have seen and documented the results of unsafe driving. Its a horror show.
One I hope you or your family never have to be involved in.

 

FLALS1, I have to apologize.
I in no way meant to highjack your thread.
I just feel, probably like you do that heavy truck drivers are not paid what they are really worth.
Its not your fault or so much Rinkers or anyother public company. Its share holders who hawk the bottom line, to the point that you cant spend the money to hire the guys you want.
Glad to hear that you can get rid of an unsafe driver on the spot. We, because of the unions could not.
I also think it is a real insult for anyone to call them "unskilled labor". That is just a plain slap in the face.
If it is so unskilled let someone here try it that thinks that way. I doubt they could get the clutch pedal in on an old Mack 5 speed.
Hope you find some good guys.

 

High Strung

I do agree with you on the pay. It's really up to the drivers unions to divide up the monies to the different areas reguarding pay,health and so on. The union here really isnt a teamsters union its actually alot smaller then that. If we took all the monies given to the union and made it a plain hourly wage and no benifits it would be well over $20 and hour. The union is the one dividing up the amounts to health care,pensions, and etc. Rinker actually pays somewhere around 1-1.5% over the national average. Other companies pay by the load. Thats what makes the industry cringe. Now your getting guys rushing to jobs to dump loads and rushing back. This is what worries most. You will never see that here. As for the hours I agree again 60-65 hours a week is alot however if you work 10 hours a day for 6 days its not to bad especially when alot of guys live from paycheck to paycheck. Most love the hours and ask for more. I'm averaging 60-70 myself but with the benifits and pay I really can't complain. I love the people I work with, I go home the same way I come to work(alive and safe). And many opertunities to advance. Hell I started out as a dispatcher and now I run a plant on my own. All this done in 3 years. I have hired quite a few car guys I met through shows and on-line some made it some didn't. It really depends on what you want for a future/career. With the unemployement rate as low as it it I just thought I would do my part trying to help any out of work fellow car guys.

Thanks for the opinions and feed back it always helps look at things from different angles.