General 1967-2002 F-Body Tech For general F-Body discussion that does not fit in any other forum.
For F-Body Technical/Information Discussion ONLY

Broken tube/cable

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 21, 2017 | 10:47 AM
  #1  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Broken tube/cable

I recently asked if there could've been anything wrong with my engine because it was hoisted up and slowly lowered. After checking all the connections this was the only thing I could find wrong. What is this, and how should I go about fixing it?
Attached Thumbnails Broken tube/cable-20171121_100510.jpg   Broken tube/cable-20171121_100439.jpg  
Old Nov 22, 2017 | 04:10 PM
  #2  
Injuneer's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 71,110
From: Hell was full so they sent me to NJ
Re: Broken tube/cable

The cruise control module is in that location (on driver side subframe, in front of and above the sway bar bracket). It would have an electrical connector, and a plastic encased cable that runs over the top of drivers side inner fender, wraps around and attaches to the throttle body.

But the cruise module box and electrical connector orientation and number of wires seem a bit different than that picture. And there is no "elbow" at the end of the cruise control cable.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 05:51 AM
  #3  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

So it should be safe to drive without if it's probably just cruise control, right?
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 10:55 AM
  #4  
Injuneer's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 71,110
From: Hell was full so they sent me to NJ
Re: Broken tube/cable

If is actually is the cruise control, just make sure the damaged cable is not restricting throttle blade movement. You wouldn't want the throttle to stick wide open.

The fact that connector only has 2 wires, and the elbow on the end of the tube still puzzles me. I can’t even compare to my 94 because cruise control and anything else in that area has long ago been deleted.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 11:10 AM
  #5  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

Yeah, that would be bad. I'll probably end up removing it in the future anyways, as I don't use cruise control, or even have the chance to most of the time.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 12:14 PM
  #6  
shoebox's Avatar
Registered User
 
Joined: Dec 1969
Posts: 27,728
From: Little Rock, AR
Re: Broken tube/cable

Maybe bleed valve for the AIR system? Look for something broken on the AIR pump that matches that end.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 12:36 PM
  #7  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

I'm glad you brought that up, I went and looked and found where it goes. It goes into my exhaust, but what is it?
Attached Thumbnails Broken tube/cable-20171123_122904.jpg   Broken tube/cable-20171123_122910.jpg  
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 12:53 PM
  #8  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

After some looking, that's my egr vacuum system. I don't know what to do with it at this point, can I get a piece to fix it back on, or does it even matter. I didn't know what an EGR delete was until just now, so would it be bad to let my engine get hotter from not having it? I want to know if I can drive my car without causing more damages.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 01:26 PM
  #9  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

Okay, anyone know where I can buy a replacement for the vacuum fitting?
Attached Thumbnails Broken tube/cable-20171123_132444.jpg  
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 01:30 PM
  #10  
Injuneer's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 71,110
From: Hell was full so they sent me to NJ
Re: Broken tube/cable

The EGR system is nowhere near that location.

http://shbox.com/1/egr1.jpg

As Rob/Shoebox noted, looks like the AIR system bleed valve. AIR and EGR are two totally different/separate systems. And, the bleed valve was added as part of the AIR system recall. That recall did not apply to 1994 models, only 1995 and up.

http://shbox.com/1/air_pump_recall.jpg

https://www.camaroz28.com/forums/lt1...recall-542402/

Do you have any emissions testing - either tailpipe, visual, or PCM hookup? Deleting EGR (the system at the BACK of the engine) could be a problem with visual, may set a trouble code, and can increase tailpipe levels of NOx. The recycled exhaust gas can also minimize knock when lugging the engine in too low a gear.

AIR would be a problem with visual, codes are easy to prevent, and I'm not aware of any standard tailpipe test the runs the engine from a cold start. AIR is only used for three minutes at startup.

I think on a 94, without the AIR recall, that little plastic "tee" is open to the atmosphere. I have my complete AIR system complete somewhere in my garage.... I'll see if I can find it.

If you have to start the engine, just make sure no exhaust is coming out of the white plastic tee where the nipple broke off. If necessary, cap it to prevent a leak and tape it up temporarily.
Old Nov 23, 2017 | 07:28 PM
  #11  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

Yeah, I eventually figured out if was the AIR not EGR. If you are able to find it, that would be awesome, otherwise I might be able to do something with epoxy.
Old Nov 24, 2017 | 06:28 PM
  #12  
Injuneer's Avatar
Administrator
 
Joined: Nov 1998
Posts: 71,110
From: Hell was full so they sent me to NJ
Re: Broken tube/cable

No luck.... didn’t find it. But read through what I have already written. Your 94 shouldn't have anything attached to the white plastic nipple.
Old Nov 25, 2017 | 11:06 AM
  #13  
ThePedro8161's Avatar
Thread Starter
Registered User
 
Joined: Aug 2017
Posts: 41
Re: Broken tube/cable

It's part of the AIR system (the smog thing) thank you for looking, but I went to home depot and shoved this in it with teflon and epoxy. It all fits together and It shouldn't ever break. (hopefully)
Attached Thumbnails Broken tube/cable-20171125_105401.jpg  




All times are GMT -5. The time now is 10:45 PM.