Can someone please let me know if these are mid-tubes or short-tubes?

http://www.ftpp.net/V6Main.htm

I had someone tell me that pacesetter does not make short-tubes for V6 models and that in the pacesetter catalog they are listed as mid-tubes. Is this true?

Also what is the different with those headers and these here http://www.autopn.com/store/pc/viewP...dproduct=14153

There is an L shape pipe on one of them and the other with a straight pipe. What is the difference guys? Any help is greatly appreciated.

 

I believe there short tubes (Shorty's) the L shape tube is the Y pipe the Y pipe let's you connect both headers together and you oxygen sensor so you can connect the rest of the exhaust.

 

So what would a mid-tube header look like? Do you know where I can get one? Especially for a good price.

 

Also if the L pipe allows me to connect to both my headers what would that straight pipe do since its not a Y-Pipe?

 

ftpp just uses a generic pic for the headers, those are not the acual headers pitured

 

It's a generic pic it's just an example your's are going to look different

http://www.rksport.com/product/p_01096501/view_detail

http://www.lmperformance.com/5653/13.html

http://www.performance-air-filters.c...and=pacesetter

http://www.1motormart.com/performanc...and=pacesetter

http://www.performancecenter.com/pro...MARO/sf4_3.8l/