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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:28 AM
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pathetic camshaft??

I had the stock LT1 heads ported on my 1995 TA and I replaced the camshaft with one from comp cams, part # 07-304-8. Valve lift with 1.5 ratio rockers is 0.500 for intake and 0.510 for exhaust. Intake duration = 266, exhaust = 276, and at 0.5", the values are 210 and 220. Lobe separation angle is 114 degrees. Operating range is advertised at 1000-5000rpm.

I dont know too much about camshafts, so i trusted the guy's judgement when he recommended this one to me. The only difference this made was to roughen up the idle, at least thats what i feel.

Other relevant mods are Hooker headers + exhaust (cat banged out cuz it was damaged), K & N cold air, granatelli MAF sensor, 58mm Holley TB with intake manifold ported to match.

Was this camshaft a bad buy? Any recommendations and what I should have got?
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:31 AM
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You should have gone a little bigger. You should have researched a little more too. This seems to happen many times, people get a cam then a short time later they want a bigger one. You could have gone with the cc 305, or maybe an XE224
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:39 AM
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Yeah, the 304 is a pretty small cam considering you have headwork and a 58mm throttlebody. You could easily run a cc305, oreven a 306 if you are looking for a large difference. There are a ton of XE grinds in between as well. Good Luck!
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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:42 AM
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BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAH Dude are you serious?? I think the stock cam has more lift than that one

No not really but dude that is a gay cam man.. With ported heads.. You should be at least on the 07-306-8 SPECS 230/244 .510/.540 w/ 1.5's on a 112 LSA

Who the hell told you to get that cam? That sux dude.. You need to get that piece of crap outa there... Just tellin you like it is dude.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 12:47 AM
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If you feel a cc306 is too much cam for you then you can try an xe227, little smaller than the 306 but way better than a 304 or a 305. Especially with ported heads. Whos judgement are you talking about? Seems like this guy doesnt know what hes talking about
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:01 AM
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I am thinking the 306 is going to be too small for me i am going to try it out though.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:03 AM
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Well first off what trans are you running (auto or manual)
Then you have to ask "do I have to pass emissions sometime in the future?" " what did my heads flow and where?" then we could give you more educated examples to run.


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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:16 AM
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And to think that some people actually think the HOTCAM is a wicked cam HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Hotcam... get outa here with that $hit

Hell the 306 is even a tame cam
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 01:20 AM
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And to think that some people actually think the HOTCAM is a wicked cam HAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHA Hotcam... get outa here with that $hit

Hell the 306 is even a tame cam
And what do you run smart guy, you always seem to have an opinion on everyone elses ****.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 02:16 AM
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And what do you run smart guy, you always seem to have an opinion on everyone elses ****.
HA like I would post up my cam specs for a buncha homos like yourself to see All the hard work and time I spent putting the specs together just to give the info away. Yea right.

Tell you what, when you bring back a timeslip from the track that looks like MINE then maybe I will consider it. Until then good luck with your hotcam and your 13.1
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:21 AM
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HA like I would post up my cam specs for a buncha homos like yourself to see All the hard work and time I spent putting the specs together just to give the info away. Yea right.

Tell you what, when you bring back a timeslip from the track that looks like MINE then maybe I will consider it. Until then good luck with your hotcam and your 13.1
If you think this board is a bunch of homos, then why do you even come here to post, obviously your not contributing to help answer this guy or anyone else, instead you bash a well proven cam(hotcam) and claim the cc306 is tame. If you don't want to give out the numbers on your cam than just say it with respect. Personally I think the cc306 is to big for the street, sure it puts out power, but drive it everyday in LA traffic and see how much fun it is when your in bumper to bumper traffic. Some love it for the street, but its not for everyone, and the hotcam puts out great power and drives much better on the street. Sure your car might be quick, but some of us drive our cars everyday, and care about drivability and gas mileage.

To answer your question Med It might be small, but at least you didn't go to big like many people do. Now you have some experience with cams, and of course many people change their minds and go bigger, so your not alone. The grind is better than stock, so even though you might not feel it, I'm sure there is a difference. Have you had your combo tuned yet? Also even if you only gained 20 horses, I think thats pretty hard to feel. I think I read you still had 1.5 rocker, if this is so, thenchanging them will net even more power. I say work with what you have and see what you can get out of it. What are your ultimate goals-horsepower/quarter mile times. Also what are the numbers on the headwork, just because they have been worked on doesn't mean that a cc306 is a good choice. That cam sounds like it might work great for nitrous or a blower, if more power is needed.

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Old Jan 15, 2004 | 03:30 AM
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Originally posted by D James
If you think this board is a bunch of homos, then why do you even come here to post, obviously your not contributing to help answer this guy or anyone else, instead you bash a well proven cam(hotcam) and claim the cc306 is tame. If you don't want to give out the numbers on your cam than just say it with respect. Personally I think the cc306 is to big for the street, sure it puts out power, but drive it everyday in LA traffic and see how much fun it is when your in bumper to bumper traffic. Some love it for the street, but its not for everyone, and the hotcam puts out great power and drives much better on the street. Sure your car might be quick, but some of us drive our cars everyday, and care about drivability and gas mileage.

To answer your question Med It might be small, but at least you didn't go to big like many people do. Now you have some experience with cams, and of course many people change their minds and go bigger, so your not alone. The grind is better than stock, so even though you might not feel it, I'm sure there is a difference. Have you had your combo tuned yet? Also even if you only gained 20 horses, I think thats pretty hard to feel. I think I read you still had 1.5 rocker, if this is so, thenchanging them will net even more power. I say work with what you have and see what you can get out of it. What are your ultimate goals-horsepower/quarter mile times
I didn't say the board was a buncha homos, I said there are a LOT on here! Get it straight..

"drive it everyday in LA traffic and see how much fun it is when your in bumper to bumper traffic" You know what, if you don't want to build a fast car then don't. Don't give me that crap about bumper to bumper B.S. I drive around with skinnies, 28" et drags, stage 4 clutch and a rediclious amount of power EVERYDAY so *SNIFF* *SNIFF* cry me a river!

Some people wanna be faster than others. THis guy obviously want's something other than the rediclious cam that some idiot that was worried about "bumper to bumper traffic" told him to get
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:05 AM
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Re: pathetic camshaft??

Originally posted by med_reject
I had the stock LT1 heads ported on my 1995 TA and I replaced the camshaft with one from comp cams, part # 07-304-8. Valve lift with 1.5 ratio rockers is 0.500 for intake and 0.510 for exhaust. Intake duration = 266, exhaust = 276, and at 0.5", the values are 210 and 220. Lobe separation angle is 114 degrees. Operating range is advertised at 1000-5000rpm.

I dont know too much about camshafts, so i trusted the guy's judgement when he recommended this one to me. The only difference this made was to roughen up the idle, at least thats what i feel.

Other relevant mods are Hooker headers + exhaust (cat banged out cuz it was damaged), K & N cold air, granatelli MAF sensor, 58mm Holley TB with intake manifold ported to match.

Was this camshaft a bad buy? Any recommendations and what I should have got?
Don't chalk it up as a bad buy. Take it as a learning experience. That said, the cam in question is a very small cam.

Your cam choice all depends on what you want. Are you wanting low end torque and mid range power, or do you want to take a hit on the bottom end for a cam that will make it's power up high?? How high to you want to rev your motor?? Are you going for max power or max driveability???

There's plenty of cams out there, here's a few names for a search: Hotcam, CC305, CC306, XE 218/2224, XE 224/230, XE 230/236, GM 847. Also check out combination motorsports website as they have some custom XE grinds too that are inbetween the comp grinds.

Do some research, but before you decide on a new cam decide what you want out of your car.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 08:54 AM
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med_reject I will buy the 304cc from you if you go with a big cam.
Old Jan 15, 2004 | 09:00 AM
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With ported heads I would recommend the Comp Cams XE224/230

Beautiful cam for the street and the strip with ported heads.

Myself, I'll be going with the XE218/224, but I don't have ported heads.

Dan



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