Hey guys, i was wondering how these brakes compare...

I'm looking at the baer twin piston right now.

Also, does the Z06 have a bigger rotor or something? i know the calipers are the same...

Looking at best brakes for $1300 or so. Must have blank rotors.

 

The C5 and ZO6 have the same size rotor (12.8"), the only difference is the color of the caliper (both are 2 piston calipers). I believe the current package price for everything for the C5 conversion is going to be between $800 - $900.

 

I'd recommend the Z06 brake upgrade. Best brake for the buck. Pressure cast aluminum caliper, dual piston, easy to find replacement parts thru many sources, proven performer and under 900 bux.
The rotors are 12.8" x 1.26"(322x32) with a pad area of 72 sq cm.


Compare that to a Baer/Alcon setup - 93-02 F Body $2845 rotors - 332x32 (13" x 1.25"), pad area - 64.5 sq cm.

Ya want more info, GO HERE for a comparison chart.

 

the baer twin piston and C5 upgrade cost me about the same.

if Z06 brakes = C5, why the hell doe sthe Z06 stop so much faster

 

The ZO6 is equipped with tires with a higher coefficient of friction and more friction area (under heavy braking, it will have a slightly larger footprint if you are using the appropriate tire pressures). It is also equipped with higher coefficient of friction front brake pads, which can also take more heat before fading. This would be evident in stopping tests from high speeds, like Car and Driver's 150mph to 0 test.

Which Baer twin piston system are you referring to? They have many for the Fbody.

Bob Bishop

 

The Z06 is also lighter.

 

Just to follow-up on Grover's comment, the Baer GT+ system uses the same PBR two piston caliper as the current C5 brake system. GM sources the calipers from the Australian PBR company.

The rotor is different however. It is a larger two piece rotor w/Alum hat. The diameter is 13.15 inch and it has a width of 1.25 inch. The rotors are 48 vein directional for air pumping capabilities. I don't believe the stock C5 rotors are directionally veined.

The purchase price about a year ago from Baer was about $1,200.

With the larger rotor and good pads, the car will out-brake most C5s I've seen on the track.

Regards

Steve

 

if they are identical, can i use baer rotors on the C5 brakes?

... also I know the rear C5 rotors are vented- my old company designed them

 

Unlike the LT1 and LS1 rotors, the stock C5 rotors ARE directionally vaned and are therefore left and right handed. They also save @ 4 lbs. of unsprung/rotating weight per wheel over the 13.15” Baer GT+ rotors. The difference in leverage arm from the larger radius of the Baer rotor would be 1/6 of an inch (that is measured from the center of the brake pad to the center of the axle.).

Bob Bishop

 

I'm not sure which Baer brake kit Trey is referring to and for what year f-body.

I have the Baer racing kit for my 96 SS which is the GT and is identical to the ZR1 brake system with the two piston calipers and 13" rotors. These are vented rotors and so are the Z06 rotors.

This was a really great kit before. And I just took my car to Thunderhill for road race last week and it works great. However these kits including the ZR1 kits are nothing now compare to the new C5 or Z06 brake system. The new Z06 brake calipers are much bigger and uses a much bigger brake pads. This is very important in how it stops. All of the people that has the ZR1 brake setup in the corvetteforum.com are switching over to the newer Z06 brake setup.

I have not use the Wilwood, but heard that they are one of the best but cost a lot more.

If I have to do this all over, I would probably do the Z06 kit and install in the venting tubes to cool the rotors.

The Z06 rotors from GMdirects or Jason are quite cheap and very good. There is no reason you would buy the baer unless you want it to be cross drilled, slotted, or zinc wash to prevent rust. GM actually sell cross drilled slotted rotors. For my session to Thill, I actually took out my cross drilled slotted zinc washed cryotreated at 300below rotors and put in some generic blank rotors.

 

Why would anyone want cross drilled

I guess the C5 upgrade is the best brake before you hit that point of deminishing returns $:brakingpower wise...

 

Wilwood don't cost to much over the Baer brakes. Compared to Baers four piston and wilwoods 6 pistons. I'll go for Wilwood for a little more. I'm not say Baer isn't good, there great but you would have to spend alot more for Baer's 6 piston when you can get the same Wilwoods 6 piston performance for cheaper.

Hold up, is Baers a two piston or four piston?

 

... I guess anything is better than the stock LT1 front brakes. It just depends on how much you want to spend for the kit and replacement parts down the road.

 

I am, it doesn't mean I know the specs of every brake in the world!

 

What exactly does this have to do with brakes?