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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 08:35 AM
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Sorry, I missed Trey being a tool again.

I didn't mean to single you out with your post, I hit quote intead of reply. I fixed it.

Trey wanted his name changed again because he felt that he might get ethnical flack over it. We do not normally go through the process of changing name, but this is an exeption.

So regardless, stop being dorkfaces! Both of you!

Old Aug 29, 2003 | 09:57 AM
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Trey, it's ok.
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:07 AM
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I am going back to edit my posts and delete the irrelicant ones, and this one after you see it...

I didn't think you would take it so seriously (see sig). Most everything I say is in jest, especailly if I use the "."



Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:28 AM
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I thought I heard somewhere that the Wilwoods are thinner rotors and doesnt have as much swept area as the C5 rotors?
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 10:56 AM
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Got it! Mine are gone too.
Old Aug 29, 2003 | 12:04 PM
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kgkern01 - that's correct

Wilwood - 330x32 (12.9 x 1.25) swept area - 37.7 sq cm

C5/Z06 - 332x32 (12.9 x 1.25) swept area - 72.0 sq cm

I posted a link back on page one of this thread to a comparison chart.

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Old Aug 29, 2003 | 07:50 PM
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Actually, the 72 sq cm is the effective brake pad lining area of one front pad. The “swept area” is 1,696 sq cm, or @ 263 sq in per front rotor. Nice large pads, and a generous amount of swept area.

Bob Bishop
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 05:14 PM
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Pics of C5 conversion

I am very happy with my C5 brake conversion. I think it is a very necessary upgrade (Brakes that is) when attending driving schools.

http://community.webshots.com/user/raiderz28
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 09:37 PM
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Thanks Raider, I am glad you are pleased with the conversion. Some of your install pics are very good. Would you mind if I included a link to that page in my installation instructions, or if you don't like that idea, may I email 2 of the pics to anyone having a question about where to cut the ears?

Thanks,
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Old Aug 31, 2003 | 09:44 PM
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what exactly is involved in doing this?
Old Aug 31, 2003 | 10:43 PM
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... if you're asking what's involved in upgrading an LT1 F-body with Z06 brakes, is easy:
  • jack up car, use jackstands, remove front wheels
  • remove old calipers and rotors
  • cut un-necessary mounting areas off of spindle (steering knuckle)
  • un-bolt wheel bearing assembly and mount adapter bracket
  • install rotor, pad abutement bracket and caliper
  • bleed system, install front wheels, remove jackstands and road test
  • be impressed with the new found (repeated) stopping power and the way it fills your wheel.

... that's it in the 'Readers Digest' version of what's involved. It's about a 3.5 to 4 hr job.
Old Sep 1, 2003 | 08:47 AM
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Sorry for getting in Late on this one!

I have used the C5 ( bob bishop design bracket) for 2 years at Watkins Gken, and can tell you first hand that I can brake with most regardless of $$$. Now that is almost 30 track days in 2 years and 5 sets of ZO6 stock pads


Have a friend that has the $2200.00 Baer set up and he said he would like my old(steel) brackets, can't imagine why???

Gary
Old Sep 1, 2003 | 09:07 AM
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... best 'bang' for the buck.
Old Sep 1, 2003 | 12:40 PM
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I would be honored!

Bob,

No problem attaching as a link. Glad you liked the pics.

Brad
Old Sep 4, 2003 | 08:57 PM
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Z06 brakes

If you are going to track your F Body a couple of events a year, the Z06 swap will be fine. Running hard at the track, I mean run the brakes hard, I wouldn't recommend the Z06 calipers. Having a Z06, they are the weakest link on the car (maybe the 01 clutch). I have DRM aftermarket brake ducts installed so cooling is always a concern.

The issue is that the calipers get too hot and seize up with the piston extended. Has happened to me several times during an event-causes the rear to come around. In my trailer I carry 4 calipers and rotors at all times. I rebuild them after every couple of events. The more aggressive the pads, the quicker they break. As soon as funds allow, they are hitting EBAY.
I will look at the Baer 4/6 piston 13.5 rotor, Stoptech, or Movit. All have a much thicker rotor and rugged caliper and are designed for repeated abuse. Take a look;



http://home.mchsi.com/~debbie3004/power_slot.jpg

http://home.mchsi.com/~debbie3004/rear_rotor.jpg
More reading about Z06 brakes; http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showt...ighlight=movit

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