Why is this forum so lonely?
For the number of people on the BB, you would think more people would be interested in keeping their cars clean.
Either everyone knows all they need to know about detailing, or most of these folks run with a dirty car.
Here's a detailing tip so there is some useful content in this post:
If you aren't using an Absorber synthetic chamois, you should be. I keep 2- one for the car, and one for the interior windows. A damp absorber cleans the interior windows in a snap- and won't harm tint. They make them in various colors too!
Either everyone knows all they need to know about detailing, or most of these folks run with a dirty car.
Here's a detailing tip so there is some useful content in this post:
If you aren't using an Absorber synthetic chamois, you should be. I keep 2- one for the car, and one for the interior windows. A damp absorber cleans the interior windows in a snap- and won't harm tint. They make them in various colors too!
The absorber is great. Do they also make the "blade" - I was considering getting the blade if so.
Now to answer your original question... I know I will draw some fire for this but I also know there are some people here who agree.
What does show and shine have a lot to do with? Wash/Cleaners/Polish/Wax right? Although I respect the fact that there are loyal Zaino users here it seems that everytime someone even mentions anything other than Zaino its anti-camaro and in one way or another Zaino always works its way in to a thread and that thread ultimately dies.
I think participation is a great thing and keeps the board active and alive, but when a thread concering Meguiars or other products is going, is it really neccessary for the same people to be sure they respond to every post concerning wax/polish praising Zaino? Like I said, its great that people stand behind a product they like, but not everyone shares the same enthusiastic views. So don't be intimidated and feel as if you arent serious about your ride if you dont use Zaino. I think a lot of people don't bother posting here because they know their original post will be threaded into Zaino. I considered using Zaino and changed my mind. I am very happy with the Meguiars system and will continue to use Meguiars.
[This message has been edited by JerzeeZ28 (edited July 24, 2001).]
Now to answer your original question... I know I will draw some fire for this but I also know there are some people here who agree.
What does show and shine have a lot to do with? Wash/Cleaners/Polish/Wax right? Although I respect the fact that there are loyal Zaino users here it seems that everytime someone even mentions anything other than Zaino its anti-camaro and in one way or another Zaino always works its way in to a thread and that thread ultimately dies.
I think participation is a great thing and keeps the board active and alive, but when a thread concering Meguiars or other products is going, is it really neccessary for the same people to be sure they respond to every post concerning wax/polish praising Zaino? Like I said, its great that people stand behind a product they like, but not everyone shares the same enthusiastic views. So don't be intimidated and feel as if you arent serious about your ride if you dont use Zaino. I think a lot of people don't bother posting here because they know their original post will be threaded into Zaino. I considered using Zaino and changed my mind. I am very happy with the Meguiars system and will continue to use Meguiars.
[This message has been edited by JerzeeZ28 (edited July 24, 2001).]
I agree. I have a black car and am always washing and so on and I have worked my a$$ off trying to get rid of swirl marks and still no luck...I was finally told that you can't really get rid of them. I tried that 3M swirl remover and it really didn't help. So far the best tip I've heard here is waxing windows.
This is usually the first forum I visit but it seems like no one out of the 20+ thousand visits here.
Jeff
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Black 1996 Z28 M6; Stock
This is usually the first forum I visit but it seems like no one out of the 20+ thousand visits here.
Jeff
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Black 1996 Z28 M6; Stock
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Captain Jeff Z28:
I was finally told that you can't really get rid of them. I tried that 3M swirl remover and it really didn't help. So far the best tip I've heard here is waxing windows.
Jeff
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I was finally told that you can't really get rid of them. I tried that 3M swirl remover and it really didn't help. So far the best tip I've heard here is waxing windows.
Jeff
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I too admit my first thought when reading the topic was one word "Zaino". Seems whatever the problem Zaino can cure it:
"I have swirl marks"--> "Zaino them!"
"What shines the best?"--> "Zaino"
"I want long lasting protection" --> "Zaino"
"I cut off my hand"--> "Zaino the stump it'll grow a new one!"
OK so that last one is a stretch but I think you see where I'm going. I'm glad all the people are so pleased with Zaino but do we REALLY need 40 people answering a question with the same response? I admit Zaino must be good, why do others have trouble admitting that other products work well too? OK I'll get of my soap box and await the public flogging I'm sure I deserve!
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Brian
1995 Polo Green Z28
1995 Bright White Monte Carlo Z34
"I have swirl marks"--> "Zaino them!"
"What shines the best?"--> "Zaino"
"I want long lasting protection" --> "Zaino"
"I cut off my hand"--> "Zaino the stump it'll grow a new one!"

OK so that last one is a stretch but I think you see where I'm going. I'm glad all the people are so pleased with Zaino but do we REALLY need 40 people answering a question with the same response? I admit Zaino must be good, why do others have trouble admitting that other products work well too? OK I'll get of my soap box and await the public flogging I'm sure I deserve!
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Brian
1995 Polo Green Z28
1995 Bright White Monte Carlo Z34
What you guys seem to be forgeting, I guess, is that the reason we all recommend Zaino so highly is that most other wax products are a "been there, done that" situation. I mean I used to be highly loyal to Meguiar's and several other premium brands until switching to Z. So, for many of us, we dwell on what we've found to work best, not what used to work best. I agree, just because someone doesn't use Z doesn't make them any less serious about car care and detailing, but why not recommend a product that betters most in every way whenever you get the chance? But anyway, a lot of us here have used a great many different products/brands and still know quite a bit about how they're used. Use what works best for your situation and spread the word if it exceeds expectations...
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**Mike's 92 RS 25th**
92 RS 25th Anniv. Dark Red Metallic (Brillant Red)/ Flame Red
Flowmaster Crossflow, K&N
JL Audio 3 10", PPI PC2100, Kenwood eXcelon KRC-953 H/U, Kenwood 4x6 Dash, Pioneer 4 way 6x9's
20% 3M Panther Black Tint
Lots O ZAINO
My ESP JH2 and Fenders
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**Mike's 92 RS 25th**
92 RS 25th Anniv. Dark Red Metallic (Brillant Red)/ Flame Red
Flowmaster Crossflow, K&N
JL Audio 3 10", PPI PC2100, Kenwood eXcelon KRC-953 H/U, Kenwood 4x6 Dash, Pioneer 4 way 6x9's
20% 3M Panther Black Tint
Lots O ZAINO
My ESP JH2 and Fenders
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JerzeeZ28:
Jusr curious... Who told you that you swirls cant be removed or significantly lessened? I have to post this fast before you get the "use z this and z that." How did you initially get the swirls and what steps did you take to remove them?</font>
Jusr curious... Who told you that you swirls cant be removed or significantly lessened? I have to post this fast before you get the "use z this and z that." How did you initially get the swirls and what steps did you take to remove them?</font>

Oh and for the record, I have not been totally satisfied with Zaino, It is good but I have not once dropped my jaw in amazement. Call me fussy, but I am just being honest.
Jeff
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Black 1996 Z28 M6; Stock
It is too bad that more car enthusiasts don't get into how well their ride looks. I've been cleaning and polishing my cars for over 30 years, so there isn't many products I haven't tried. Some I haven't tried, friends have and switched to Zaino.
The people who come to this forum are serious about their cars and how well they look. Many of the pickiest do use Zaino and have been so impressed with its durability and shine that they want to pass it on to others who are just as serious.
Know one will tell you that you MUST use Zaino, use whatever gives you the results that you are happy with. But ask yourself why is Zaino such a hot topic on MANY, MANY message boards.
Sometimes people do come on a little strong in their "support" of Zaino, just take it in stride.
USE WHATEVER GIVES YOU THE RESULTS YOU ARE HAPPY WITH.
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Kevin Villier, 2002 SS #186 - 6M with Hurst and "short-stick", TT, navy blue, chrome SS wheels, Bilstein suspension, SS grill, STB
soon to add: SLP loudmouth, lid and MAF ends
Louisville, KY
The people who come to this forum are serious about their cars and how well they look. Many of the pickiest do use Zaino and have been so impressed with its durability and shine that they want to pass it on to others who are just as serious.
Know one will tell you that you MUST use Zaino, use whatever gives you the results that you are happy with. But ask yourself why is Zaino such a hot topic on MANY, MANY message boards.
Sometimes people do come on a little strong in their "support" of Zaino, just take it in stride.
USE WHATEVER GIVES YOU THE RESULTS YOU ARE HAPPY WITH.
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Kevin Villier, 2002 SS #186 - 6M with Hurst and "short-stick", TT, navy blue, chrome SS wheels, Bilstein suspension, SS grill, STB
soon to add: SLP loudmouth, lid and MAF ends
Louisville, KY
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeLS:
What you guys seem to be forgeting, I guess, is that the reason we all recommend Zaino so highly is that most other wax products are a "been there, done that" situation. I mean I used to be highly loyal to Meguiar's and several other premium brands until switching to Z. </font>
What you guys seem to be forgeting, I guess, is that the reason we all recommend Zaino so highly is that most other wax products are a "been there, done that" situation. I mean I used to be highly loyal to Meguiar's and several other premium brands until switching to Z. </font>
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Chris a.k.a DJ Cobol or NuknFutz99
No F-body yet!
'97 Cutlass Supreme SL coupe - Bright Red
Pics of the Car
Ok guys- I see where you're coming from. It would get annoying to constantly hear about one product line. How informative would the tech section be if everyone only recommended/used SLP performance products?
You have to admit and allow however, that if someone jumps on and asks whats the best product for this or that, they are opening themselves to responses from the Zaino users- plain and simple.
Now- perhaps us Zaino users can tone it down a little- maybe recommending "synthetic" polishes over wax based systems to people with general inquiries regarding durability. After all- the shine and durability differences between a product like Liquid Glass and Zaino are slight compared to differences between those products and wax based products. IMO.
Its a shame that people think this is a Zaino forum- but damn, imagine one product that can take over forums like this across all sorts of enthusist sites?
Since I'm rambling, I finally bought the Zaino leather treatment since I had been using some Meguires stuff and was totally unstatisfied. I am not just a Zaino only user- but I'll be damned if that isn't the most kick-*** leather product I HAVE USED. There might be a better one, and I'd love to know if there is. But for many of us, Zaino just continues to deliver great products, and its hard for us to shut-up about it.
You have to admit and allow however, that if someone jumps on and asks whats the best product for this or that, they are opening themselves to responses from the Zaino users- plain and simple.
Now- perhaps us Zaino users can tone it down a little- maybe recommending "synthetic" polishes over wax based systems to people with general inquiries regarding durability. After all- the shine and durability differences between a product like Liquid Glass and Zaino are slight compared to differences between those products and wax based products. IMO.
Its a shame that people think this is a Zaino forum- but damn, imagine one product that can take over forums like this across all sorts of enthusist sites?
Since I'm rambling, I finally bought the Zaino leather treatment since I had been using some Meguires stuff and was totally unstatisfied. I am not just a Zaino only user- but I'll be damned if that isn't the most kick-*** leather product I HAVE USED. There might be a better one, and I'd love to know if there is. But for many of us, Zaino just continues to deliver great products, and its hard for us to shut-up about it.
I don't know why this forum is not more active, but www.corvetteforum.com and www.ls1.com is VERY active in the show car section and the car care section of their message boards.
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96 Black Impala SS
Authorized Zaino Showcar Polish Distributor
www.zainobros.com
Remember #3
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96 Black Impala SS
Authorized Zaino Showcar Polish Distributor
www.zainobros.com
Remember #3
I personally do not considering washing/polishing/shining my ride work in any way shape or form. I find complete and total enjoyment/relaxtion from it. When I make a "me" day I usually spend it with my car. Even if the shine is as bright as the north star and as slick as ice there is always something that can stand to be cleaned up or improved
In addition to mods I think a clean ride very often turns heads!
In addition to mods I think a clean ride very often turns heads!
Zaino the stump ! LOL
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Black 95 Z convertible M6 3.42's Flowmaster American Thunder catback
AC delco rapid fires
autolite wires
mobil 1 synthetics
Nitto NT 450 Extreme perf.
K&N FIPK
71k
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Black 95 Z convertible M6 3.42's Flowmaster American Thunder catback
AC delco rapid fires
autolite wires
mobil 1 synthetics
Nitto NT 450 Extreme perf.
K&N FIPK
71k


