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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 05:45 AM
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Recommendations for an electric buffer

I will soon need to purchase an electric buffer/ polisher to buff out my '68 Caddy after wet sanding. Does anyone have any recommendations?

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Old Jan 26, 2004 | 07:20 AM
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http://www.portercable.com/index.asp?e=547&p=2805

Porter Cable 7424

and

http://www.premiumautocare.com/3mfinitmacpo.html

3M Machine Polish.
Old Jan 26, 2004 | 02:26 PM
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Do you want a direct drive rotary or an orbital?
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 04:29 AM
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Do you want a direct drive rotary or an orbital?
I know there's less risk involved with orbitals, but do they give results as good as direct drive rotary models when buffing wet-sanded paint?
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 08:22 AM
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I know there's less risk involved with orbitals, but do they give results as good as direct drive rotary models when buffing wet-sanded paint?

Depends on what you want to accomplish, if you want to remove major amounts of paint for example removing excess orange peel the rotary would be better, if smoothing and refining the finish the orbital is much better. Best orbital is the Porter Cable model 7336 or 7424
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:46 AM
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Well, the wet sanding will knock down the orange peel, I just want to polish the sanded paint back to a high gloss afterwards. If an orbital will work for this purpose, then that's what I'd prefer to buy. It would be more useful in the future for lighter polishing duties.

So, the million dollar question is this... Will an orbital give good results when buffing out wet sanded paint?
Old Jan 27, 2004 | 09:50 AM
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Well, the wet sanding will knock down the orange peel, I just want to polish the sanded paint back to a high gloss afterwards. If an orbital will work for this purpose, then that's what I'd prefer to buy. It would be more useful in the future for lighter polishing duties.

So, the million dollar question is this... Will an orbital give good results when buffing out wet sanded paint?

The PC will using the right compounds and foam pads..
Old Jan 28, 2004 | 04:23 AM
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Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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hey go to autozone and buy there sander/polisher ... then go to eagel or your local paint shop by a buffing pad
ive used alot of buffers its right up there with top ones
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:27 PM
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hey go to autozone and buy there sander/polisher ... then go to eagel or your local paint shop by a buffing pad
ive used alot of buffers its right up there with top ones

I have a buffer bought from AutoZone of the WEN brand name, it is really an orbital waxer, non adjustable speed like the Porter Cable and does NOT have a removable head unit like the Porter Cable, it is OK to use but no where near the quality unit of the Porter Cable......

If you want an entry level orbital better yet just buy the WEN on Ebay for 15 bucks, keep in mind is does not have a detachable head unit so you can not use velcro backer pad and quick change velcro foam pads, you will have to acquire foam bonnetts...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2457449784

This is a direct drive usint from WEN (non orbital) also know as a rotary buffer, Rotay buffers develop much more heat and are more for removal of excess clear coat (orange peel)

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2457450142
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:33 PM
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my Autozone has the sander/polisher ..plus the orbital buffer ... i try to run the buffer at 2000 rpms with a cleaner glaze to get surface scratches out ... and i use it at 2200 rpms with 3m compound to get the deep scratches out... i think orbital buffers are useless ,they will not get any scratches out ... if your going to wax your car just use cheesecloth to get your wax off...don't waste 20 bucks on a orbital buffer
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:43 PM
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Yes, you can get scratches and swirls out with the Porter Cable, (its not your normal orbital, LOL) If you have not used it you just do not know what the unit will do.

I never use an orbital to remove waxes, polishes, or compounds, I do that by hand.

I would not use cheese cloth, I only use micro fiber towels or Supima cotton towels, I have never seen any cheese cloths that where soft enough for me......
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 03:53 PM
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I'll checkout the porter. i was referring to the autozone orbitals ... eagleone sells the best cheesecloth really soft will remove any wax will not scratch ..microfiber are nice but they can scratch a car too, if there not clean or have wax build up , microfiber is alot faster but i use cheesecloth on black cars when i detail them and expensive cars
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 04:10 PM
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I'll checkout the porter. i was referring to the autozone orbitals ... eagleone sells the best cheesecloth really soft will remove any wax will not scratch ..microfiber are nice but they can scratch a car too, if there not clean or have wax build up , microfiber is alot faster but i use cheesecloth on black cars when i detail them and expensive cars

The www.dftowel.com is the micro fiber that I use and I assure you they will not scratch as they are all natural fibers, they are not man made polyester and nylon like 99.9% of all other micro fiber towels.

I currently have a black custom Silverado and a black 96 Impala SS show car so I have really good test beds on all of my products...

I went to Eagle One's web site and I did not see any thing listed as cheese cloth, the only detailing cloth I saw was a micro fiber towel here: http://www.eagleone.com/_products/6,E-1148.asp
Old Feb 1, 2004 | 05:06 PM
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iono, i worked for a detail company for a couple years and eagle one was one of out suppliers we ordered from every week
maybe the website doesn't offer all there products .... how well does Zaino hold up
I,ve heard all positive from the product
i'm getting ready to clay my car and buff it
out soon... do u think zaino will outperform
liquid glass? as a finishing ploish? thanks



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