Hey guys. Which do you prefer? Klasse or Zaino? I'm torn between the 2. I have never used either of them but I'm wanting to. Just trying to decide which to buy. Does Klasse contain abraisives? Thanks.

Anthony

 

They are both great products!! K and Z are about the only two products that are truly world class, having no equal. So, you have chosen wisely, but the best is yet to come.

Having used both, I can say that I prefer Zaino better, but it is a matter of personal taste really. Klasse will tend to slightly darken and enrich the color of your car, Zaino shows it's true color with 99.9% optical clarity. Zaino works especially well on metallic flake finishes, to give them that show car look. Klasse works well on darker colors, to give a richness more similar to a true wax. But, Zaino is also great on darker colored finishes.

As far as abrasiveness, Zaino is completely 110% against abrasives, nuff said. Klasse is half and half. The Klasse All-In-One is abrasive and will clean the paint as it lays down a basic layer of acrylic protection. The Klasse Sealant Glaze is nonabrasive and will layer, similar to Zaino. The two Klasse products, referred to as the twins, work very well together. Most like to layer SG over the AIO for the best shine and protection from that system...

Why did I choose to stay with Zaino over Klasse? Zaino is IMHO easier to use. Klasse SG can be very tempremental and hard to buff and sometimes causes hazing that is difficult to remove. Zaino is a breeze to apply and buff. I also feel that the Zaino shine is superior, but shine is very subjective. I like the optical clarity of Zaino, the ability to layer, the SMELL, the customer service (Klasse has none), and the overall system. I feel the Zaino system works really well, like the Z7 and Z6. Klasse does not have its own system of products that work to enhance the shine and protection. Some people don't mind and just use other products with Klasse, but I personally like the system of products approach...

Here's which I'd suggest you try: BOTH!!! Seriously, try both and see which looks best on your car. It's only your opinion that counts anyway... For me, I'll stick with Z, it has never let me down!!

Mike


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*Mike's 1992 Camaro RS 25th Anniv.*
Dark Red Metallic (ext.) / Flame Red (int.)
Flowmaster Crossflow, K&N, 20% 3M Panther Black Tint
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[This message has been edited by MikeLS (edited July 25, 2002).]

 

Mike,

Thanks for the info. I'm still undecided on which one I'm gonna go with. I'm leaning more toward the Zaino. I have a '97 Z-28 which is black in color. It's paint looks pretty good for a 5 yr. old car although it does have minor scratches and swirl marks that are to be expected. Man...decisions..decisions..haha. Thanks again.

Anthony

 

Both Zaino and Klasse look great on black! I know it's hard to decide which to use based on a few internet posts. This is why I say try both if you can. They are both well above average detailing products, so you really can't go wrong with either.

There are just as many people who feel Klasse is just as good or better than Zaino, just like I feel Zaino is better. So, maybe my one opinion is biased, even though I tried to remain as objective as possible when comparing the two. Do an internet search on both and you will find more info and opinions than you can digest! See what other people say which works best. There are plenty of Z and K users with black cars.

Whichever you choose, let us know and try to post pis of your car freshly detailed!

 

Used both, and Klasse does enrich the color more so then zaino does. Zaino brings it out, Klasse makes it better.

If you have any imperfections, Zaino is pretty much not worth it.

So if you have a perfect finish, zaino.

If not so perfect finish, Klasse.

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*Mods*: Hooker Super Competition Catback, Holley 58MM Throttle Body, Holley Powershot Filter, 160* Thermostat, A. Anderson Programming Chip, Aeromaks Cold Air Intake System

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I got my '02 SS a few weeks ago It is rally red, a bright head turning, cop waking red.I want to protect the paint but don't want to wax it every weekend. I keep hearing about this Zaino stuff. What is it? and what does it do as far as protecting the paint? I used liquid "wax shop" with carnuba. I know it is cheap crap probably but I had it in the garage. I don't plan to show my car, at least not now. I just want to drive it and keep it looking good.What can you suggest for cleaning brake dust off the 10 spoke SS rims? They are the silver painted ones. can I use a soft brush or will this scratch the clearcoat on them? Thanks. Mark

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Proud owner of a bright red 2002 SS #8688. Former owner of a 99 Z28
SLP cold air induction
Whisper lid
K+N filter
Ported MAF, Flowmaster muffler with stock tips
Now my old stand by, a 94 Chevy C1500 with a 4.3 v6. At least it is extended cab and paid for!!

 

Go to the Zaino website www.zainobros.com there is ALOT of great info about the products, their use, tips and tricks and FAQ's.

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Kevin Villier, 2002 SS #186 - 6M with Hurst and "short-stick", TT, navy blue, chrome SS wheels, Bilstein suspension, SS grill, STB, SLP loudmouth, Direct-Flo lid with Holley filter and Mallory polished MAF ends.

Louisville, KY

 

ahhh, yes mike we meet again on the perpetual K vz Z debate

anyway, mike really summed it up nicely for both products. but i want to add a few things to his post.

1) even though klasse all-in-one does contain trace abrasives, let me tell you that they are so mild that you sometimes have to make two-3 passes to "clean" oxidation or imperfections. it is so mild that it basically does nothing for removal light swirls on a dark colored car. it does fill them for a less noticable effect, but it is not strong enough for any removal of clearcoat. i had a good bit of swirls on mine, and only 3M swirl remover was up to the task of actual removal. afterwards, KLASSE was applied and the paint looked like brand new. but my point is, (as aeromaks correctly stated) if your paint is slightly imperfect the klasse system is the better way to go. when they say "clear coat safe" they realy mean it. it would take many hours of idiotic bachine buffing for all-in-one to actually scar or damage good paint.

2) i disagree with mike in his point about klasse not having companion products/support. along with leather, and tire products, klasse also makes a fantastic acrylic spritzer/detailer for in between "waxing" called SONUS. go to properautocare.com/klasse.html and all will be revealed. support and user information is excellent there as well.

3) i've seen both klasse and zaioned cars side by side and i believe the klasse shine is deeper, wetter and richer than zaino. zaino might be more "brilliant" due to a different optical approach, but i love the slick dripping-wet slippery look of klasse on a dark car.

4) although mike correctly stated that the sealant glaze can be tempermantal, it's not as difficult as it sounds. just follow the directions and apply a VERY thin (3 or four droplets) to your applicator and it will polish off like a breeze.

either way you go, you will have the best stuff of either germany (klasse) or u.s.a. (zaino) on your car.

good luck

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[This message has been edited by foxbat (edited July 28, 2002).]

 

Hey Foxbat. Do you have any pics of your car? If so, could you either post them or send them to anthony19953@comcast.net

Since my Z is black, I wanna get an idea of what Klasse did for yours. Thanks man.

Anthony

 

Of course, you know this debate will never end... And, that's the way it should be.

Anyhow, about your first point. I hope I didn't make it sound as though the AIO is like liquid sandpaper or something, because I completely agree that it's pretty mild when used once, but it can be pushed to restore pretty bad finishes with multiple coats and a good buffer. It's like a mild cleaner wax, where multiple coats will not layer for more protection, but will help clean and restore the paint, if needed. But, the fact remains that, yes, the AIO is a mild abrasive whereas SG is not. This is why they work well together in many cases...

I have heard some things about Klasse not actually being made in Germany, but here in the States under a different company and repackaged. But, since I don't know all the details, I'm not gonna say any more that that...








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*Mike's 1992 Camaro RS 25th Anniv.*
Dark Red Metallic (ext.) / Flame Red (int.)
Flowmaster Crossflow, K&N, 20% 3M Panther Black Tint
JL Audio 3 10", PPI PC2100, Kenwood eXcelon KRC-953H/U, Kenwood / Pioneer speakers
Show Car Shine by ZAINO! - Special Thanks to Sal Z!

 

anthony, i sure will. the car was just done yesterday so it will prolly' take me a few days to get some time to get you some good/decent pics. my digicam is a cheapo, but i'll do my best for ya.

later,

fox
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mike, i hear ya bro

i would not be surprised if they have made some changes, because SG now seems to be of a thicker consistency than a few yrs ago. it's actually easier to use than the older formulation.

ciao!