Ripped off!!!... for the second time.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 11:47 AM
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Ripped off!!!... for the second time.

WOW!! I will never buy anything off this board agian!!
The guys name Is
Eugene Neal ( aka... BlackZ)
145 Plano Rd.
bowling green ky,42104
He owes me $75.00 for a driveshaft. It has been over three months that he recived my money order.
I belive he has moved though. You dishonest bastards on this board can kiss my A$$!!!!!!!
Steve
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 11:56 AM
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preach it brotha'
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 12:50 PM
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who was the first guy?
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 12:52 PM
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Man that sucks i hate people like that, next time you should use something more secure, like Paypal.
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:03 PM
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I'm sorry to hear about that..

Seems to happen often..

You gotta reasearch who you deal with these days...

Old Jul 17, 2004 | 02:09 PM
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That sucks man. Did you use a postal money order? If you did, you can get him for mail fraud. If he moved, the post office should have his forwarding info too.
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 03:08 PM
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Man that sucks, but I think you mean Black_Z, that blows, thats why if someone is lacking a minimum of 2k+ posts I tell them to send me the product first, it works most times, if they aren't willing to do it then they are obviously out there to rip you off cuz somone with my post count & years on the board is obviously honest as apposed to their 200 posts & 1 month on the board. Not willing? I don't want it, thats my approach, & always, always! use paypal & do research & contact others about the person, if all comes out negative or no reference don't bother cuz it aint worth getting ripped off.

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Old Jul 17, 2004 | 03:14 PM
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The seller's screen name is Black_Z, and here is the thread (3-5-04):

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=233309

He has not posted since 4-27-04 and has been a member since 10-99 with 800 posts, so a rip off like this is unusual.

Do you know if anyone else got their stuff?
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 03:18 PM
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Has anyone got there parts from him
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 03:42 PM
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Re: Ripped off!!!... for the second time.

Originally posted by snakeatinZ
WOW!! I will never buy anything off this board agian!!
The guys name Is
Eugene Neal ( aka... BlackZ)
145 Plano Rd.
bowling green ky,42104
He owes me $75.00 for a driveshaft. It has been over three months that he recived my money order.
I belive he has moved though. You dishonest bastards on this board can kiss my A$$!!!!!!!
Steve
Sounds like you mailed the MO to him- if so, fill this out:

https://www.usps.com/postalinspector...dComplaint.htm

for the Postal Inspectors (failed to provide merchandise).

Although the Inspection Service cannot resolve routine business disputes between companies and their customers, it can act against a company or individual if there is a pattern of activity suggesting a potential scheme to defraud.

Your complaint is valid and if no one else received their stuff after payment, then it is a scheme to defraud and can be investigated by them. They will also be able to find out where he is receiving mail (you can also do this by completing a freedom of information form at your local Post Office as shown below).

From http://www.usps.com/foia/faq.htm :
What is the Freedom of Information Act?
The Freedom of Information Act (FOIA) is a federal law that was created in 1966 to provide the public a right of access to government documents and records, the premise being that the public has a right to know what the government is doing. The Act applies to federal agencies within the executive branch of the government, which includes the Postal Service. It says that any person may ask an agency for a copy of its records, and that the agency must provide such records, unless an exemption exists that protects the records from disclosure.

How do I make a FOIA request?
A request for agency documents and records pursuant to the FOIA must be in writing and identified as a "Freedom of Information Act" request. The Act requires a requester to provide a reasonable description of the documents or records sought. A reasonable description is one that allows agency employees familiar with the subject matter to locate responsive records with a reasonable amount of effort. Be aware that the Postal Service has about 40,000 facilities at which records are maintained and a centralized index of every record does not exist. Requests that do not meet the reasonable description standard include requests for all records within a broad category, such as requests for "all records the Postal Service has about me," "all records concerning my mail," and "all records relating to the delivery of mail to prisoners." If your request does not contain a reasonable description, we will write back to you requesting clarification. A precise description of the records you want will ensure responsible use of postal resources to satisfy your right of access while minimizing any processing costs to you.

Is a person required to provide a reason for requesting agency records?
The FOIA does not require a requester to give a reason for requesting agency records.

What does a FOIA request cost?
A requester may be charged a fee for some or all of the Postal Service's direct costs. Fees are based on the amount of time it takes to process a request, the number of pages provided, and a requester's fee category (educational and news media, commercial, or other).

- Educational and news media requesters are charged for duplication costs in excess of 100 pages.
- Commercial requesters are charged fees for search time, review time, and duplication costs.
- Other requesters are charged fees for search time in excess of two hours and duplication costs in excess of 100 pages.
Duplication costs are 15 cents per page. Search and review time is $5.35 per quarter hour when provided by a professional employee and $4.40 per quarter hour when provided by a clerical employee. Direct costs are assessed for information that must be retrieved by computer. If the assessable cost is $10.00 or less, we do not charge a fee. If the fee exceeds $25 and you did not indicate willingness to accept all costs, the Postal Service will notify you of the estimated fee and ask for your written agreement to accept liability. If the estimated fee is over $250, our regulations allow us to collect an amount up to the full estimated cost before processing the request.

Can a fee be waived?
Any requester may ask for a fee waiver. The eligibility of a requester for a fee waiver will vary, depending on the ability to show how the requested information relates to the operations or activities of the government and the means to convey the information to the public. For example, a news media requester may qualify for a fee waiver. In that case, the Postal Service may waive in full or in part the chargeable duplication fee. Indigence is not sufficient to qualify for a fee waiver.

Where do I submit my request?
Send your request to the custodian of the records. The custodian is the head of the postal facility where the record is maintained. In most instances, it will be a postmaster. At Headquarters, it is the vice president of the functional area relating to the subject of the request. For example, a request for investigative records maintained by the Postal Inspection Service would be directed to:

Chief Postal Inspector
U.S. Postal Service
475 L'Enfant Plaza SW, Room 3100
Washington DC 20260-2100

If you do not know who the custodian is, submit your request to Headquarters as follows and your request will be directed to the appropriate custodian:

Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts Officer
U.S. Postal Service
475 L'Enfant Plaza SW, Room 8141
Washington DC 20260-5202

Alternatively, requests may be faxed to the Freedom of Information/Privacy Acts Officer at (202) 268-5353.

When can I expect a response?
The FOIA provides that an agency will respond in writing within 20 working days of receipt of a request. If a request is sent to the wrong facility, the time for response does not begin until the request is received by the custodian of the records. There are unusual circumstances in which the agency may extend the response period for another ten working days. These include requests that require a search for records from a facility other than the one processing the request, requests that require the search for and review of a large volume of records, and requests that require consultation with another agency or with other agency components having an interest in disclosure.


You should send your request to the Postmaster of his Post Office to see where he is getting his mail now, and follow-up with the Postal Inspectors or the police in his town. I have done the FOIA for a guy out of state and it works- it took about two weeks or so to get something back.
Old Jul 17, 2004 | 05:30 PM
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Go over to www.kyfbodies.org and see if any of the Bowling Green crew know this person.

As to post count and quality of the person, I've been on this site since Christmas 1998, through a couple of site meltdowns, and look at my post count.

You don't have to have few posts to be a crook and you don't have to have a gazillion posts to know what you are talking about.

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Old Jul 18, 2004 | 12:29 PM
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I will check into this guy , and find out what I can about him.....I am In KYfbodies and live right down the Rd from Plano.....So I will investigate it for ya snakeatinZ
Old Jul 18, 2004 | 01:10 PM
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it sucks when people like that mess things up for people like me. I don't have alot of posts, but i'm an honest person. I don't reply to alot of things because i don't know alot of things. And it's mainly 4th gens here. I only have a second gen and 2 thirdgens so my knowledge is useless. I do agree with everyone else though. If they don't have paypal or are unwilling to set up a paypal account, then i would beware. I refuse to send a money order unless i have a phone number and i have verified the address with that phone number.
Old Jul 18, 2004 | 08:47 PM
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Re: Ripped off!!!... for the second time.

Thanks everyone!!!! (94 TA TT2S) I would greatly appriciate it if you can cruz by his address. Let me know if his camaro is out front??? thanks agian everyone ya'll are awesome!!! I filled out the report with the postal service, I have not heard from him (Eugene Neal) ?
Steve
Old Jul 18, 2004 | 10:34 PM
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Re: Ripped off!!!... for the second time.

Sorry to hear! I just sold another LT1 engine yesterday to a guy from the ImpalaSS.com website and it was a face to face deal. I had him look at my 100% feedback selling on eBay and we made several phone contacts. I hate you got a bum deal. I've been in your shoes and lost $$ on stuff like this. Maybe he will be found.
I do know of a site for internet bad deals for people to use. The Internet Fraud Complaint Center. They are a federal gov. service and will notify his local authorities. They are a divison of the FBI and follow up on stuff just like this.
www.ifccfbi.gov



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