SID - Read this
SID - Read this
auslandt
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Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posts: 7
97 Clutch master,slave, or other problem
Today when I was stopped at a light with the clutch pedal pushed in, I felt the pedal pop. I let the pedal out and now it was VERY soft. I then tried to put it in gear and had a hard time. No grinding, just had to keep clutching on the soft clutch and push the shifter. It finally did go in. Now when I let out the clutch, the point of engaging was about 1/4 inch from the floor. Normally the engage point is rather high in the pedal travel.
I drove it around a bit, the gears are hard to get into, but doable. Never grinds. The pedal has gotten a little stiffer and the engage point is now 1/2 to 1 inch out.
Also the clutch never slips when it is engaged.
I checked the clutch fluid (it was ok). Could this be a master or slave issue. Could it be a clutch issue? Or does the M6's hydralic clutch auto adjust and this is normal?
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97Z-M6
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Registered: Mar 2002
Location: near waco tx.
Posts: 972
this may sound strange but something very very similar happen to me. i broke a spring in the clutch and a piece got hung in the presure plate and the pedal got soft and hard to shift into first. and the release point was right off the floor and the cluthc held good.
i said all that to say when a piece of a spring gets hung on one side in the pp the hyrdalic system doesnt need alot to disengage it becuse half of the force is being held close and the clutch is still partly engauged. making kinda hard to engauge 1st gear. and that makes the hydralic system feel weak.
so bet you have a broke clutch. i know it sounds strange but the same thing happen to me and i finaly pulled the tranny and thats what i found replaced the clutch. put it all back together and all is good.
if you have any questions about my explanation i post back tonight. sorry so breif but im leaving work.
oh go out in the driveway and put your car in nuetral and let out on the clutch and then push it in and listen for the input shaft to stop spinning if it doesnt try to put it in gear with the clutch pushed in and see how much force it takes to stop the input shat form turning. and if it takes alot of force to stop the input shaft with the clutch pushed in, i bet you have a broke clutch and a spring hung in the pp.
i check the post agian tonight. good luck.
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AMBITION WITHOUT CONTRIBUTION IS WITH OUT SIGNIFICANCE....
97 6 speed 4.10
gears,kevlar clutch,
ported maf, ram air,
tb bypass, 160 stat, fan switch mod,
skip shift eliminator, pro 5.0 shifter,
taylor 8.5mm wires, bullet exhuast,
obd1 coversion consisting of:
AIR,EGR,A/F ratio 13.0 to 1
rev limiter at 6500, fans at 180,
soon to have 236/242 on a 110lsa with ported heads, and long tubes. and tunerecat.
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Sorry for the long paste, but my mind has been warped with disgustingly huge ERD's today at work and its gone into meltdown... I can't find the email this post to someone link to just link to it, hehehe
BUT I've seen this guy 97Z-M6 write similar before on issues with clutchs and the problems that we both have been having... And while you say your clutch is fine, I just figured I'd see if you have read this...
Jeff
New Member
Registered: Jan 2002
Location: Austin, TX, USA
Posts: 7
97 Clutch master,slave, or other problem
Today when I was stopped at a light with the clutch pedal pushed in, I felt the pedal pop. I let the pedal out and now it was VERY soft. I then tried to put it in gear and had a hard time. No grinding, just had to keep clutching on the soft clutch and push the shifter. It finally did go in. Now when I let out the clutch, the point of engaging was about 1/4 inch from the floor. Normally the engage point is rather high in the pedal travel.
I drove it around a bit, the gears are hard to get into, but doable. Never grinds. The pedal has gotten a little stiffer and the engage point is now 1/2 to 1 inch out.
Also the clutch never slips when it is engaged.
I checked the clutch fluid (it was ok). Could this be a master or slave issue. Could it be a clutch issue? Or does the M6's hydralic clutch auto adjust and this is normal?
__________________
97 Z28, M6, K&N CAI, SLP Loudmouth, and lotsa future plans...
97Z-M6
Member
Registered: Mar 2002
Location: near waco tx.
Posts: 972
this may sound strange but something very very similar happen to me. i broke a spring in the clutch and a piece got hung in the presure plate and the pedal got soft and hard to shift into first. and the release point was right off the floor and the cluthc held good.
i said all that to say when a piece of a spring gets hung on one side in the pp the hyrdalic system doesnt need alot to disengage it becuse half of the force is being held close and the clutch is still partly engauged. making kinda hard to engauge 1st gear. and that makes the hydralic system feel weak.
so bet you have a broke clutch. i know it sounds strange but the same thing happen to me and i finaly pulled the tranny and thats what i found replaced the clutch. put it all back together and all is good.
if you have any questions about my explanation i post back tonight. sorry so breif but im leaving work.
oh go out in the driveway and put your car in nuetral and let out on the clutch and then push it in and listen for the input shaft to stop spinning if it doesnt try to put it in gear with the clutch pushed in and see how much force it takes to stop the input shat form turning. and if it takes alot of force to stop the input shaft with the clutch pushed in, i bet you have a broke clutch and a spring hung in the pp.
i check the post agian tonight. good luck.
__________________
AMBITION WITHOUT CONTRIBUTION IS WITH OUT SIGNIFICANCE....
97 6 speed 4.10
gears,kevlar clutch,
ported maf, ram air,
tb bypass, 160 stat, fan switch mod,
skip shift eliminator, pro 5.0 shifter,
taylor 8.5mm wires, bullet exhuast,
obd1 coversion consisting of:
AIR,EGR,A/F ratio 13.0 to 1
rev limiter at 6500, fans at 180,
soon to have 236/242 on a 110lsa with ported heads, and long tubes. and tunerecat.
----------------
Sorry for the long paste, but my mind has been warped with disgustingly huge ERD's today at work and its gone into meltdown... I can't find the email this post to someone link to just link to it, hehehe
BUT I've seen this guy 97Z-M6 write similar before on issues with clutchs and the problems that we both have been having... And while you say your clutch is fine, I just figured I'd see if you have read this...
Jeff
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