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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:11 PM
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Angry Pay-Per-View Canucks

Does anyone remember when a person could watch virtually all the Canucks games on regular old cable? Even if one didn't have cable, the antique rabbit ears would get most of the games on CBC for free..........
Today I have to pay an extra $10+tax to watch my home team play. What a load of crap.
If these damn players didn't cost so much then we could watch it on tv, no extra cost, then mabye my interest in hockey wouldn't have dwindled as it has over the last 5 years.
Everything is going up today, except for my paycheck.
Damn.......
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:19 PM
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Don't complain just act you know that commercial with the guy who steals sattelite? Be that guy
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:28 PM
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Originally posted by bunker
Don't complain just act you know that commercial with the guy who steals sattelite? Be that guy
I wanna be that guy, who has a hook up for Direct TV ?
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:30 PM
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Cool Re: Pay-Per-View Canucks

Originally posted by Pandamonkey
Today I have to pay an extra $10+tax to watch my home team play. What a load of crap.
If these damn players didn't cost so much then we could watch it on tv, no extra cost, then mabye my interest in hockey wouldn't have dwindled as it has over the last 5 years.

Pandamonkey, although your heart is in the right place in terms of our ill-fueled economy, your are a little bit misguided in your complaints . I'll explain why...

I had lunch with a small group of people a few weeks ago, which included several CEO's, chairman's and business professionals. The most notable attendee was Brian Burke, President and GM of the Canucks. He answered several questions at the end of his keynote address, and one of them was mine. I asked, "In a sports-economy of big-ticket players and increased ticket costs, why has the average hockey fan been forced to pay for Pay-Per-View games instead of enjoying a generic cable feed like years past?" In a nutshell, Brian responded that at the beginning of the year, Canuck management offers ALL 82 regular season games to the TV Networks across North America. Each network decides which games to bradcast via televsion and radio. The remaining games are either not shown, or shown via Pay-Per-View, because Pay-Per-View broadcasters are the only ones with rights to telecast games. Burke supplemented his reasoning with facts and figures, indicating that the revenue generated by Pay-Per-View games is negligible, but exists solely for the purpose of furnishing the viewer with yet another option to watch his favorite team.

So in conclusion, it has more to do with politics and broadcaster red-tape than with overpaid athletes and money-hungry owners.

FYI - The Canucks in terms of dollar-for-dollar value are one of the best teams in Sports today .
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 02:44 PM
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My anger was apparently misplaced.
By your words, the broadcast company's are to blame.
This still makes me angry though...........
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 03:04 PM
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Originally posted by JD30thZ28
I wanna be that guy, who has a hook up for Direct TV ?
MAYBE i'm that guy!


msg me
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 03:06 PM
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oh yea
the reason why its on pay per view is cause of the time they starts.. all the ones on payper view can't be air one local channels do to the time of programming...
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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Originally posted by JD30thZ28
I wanna be that guy, who has a hook up for Direct TV ?
Send an email or PM to CanadianZ.

As for the PPP games...
Notice how all the good games are PPP? Ie: tonights game with Colorado. I find it hard to believe that a broadcasting company would not jump at the chance to host this game. Almost seems like the PPP company got the first dibs on games, CBC (for HNIC)then Sportsnet, and then TSN.

Punisha69... I don't think the argument about the time the games are on holds up. Tonight PPP game is at 7pm, just like 90% of the other games played on weekdays.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:04 PM
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Re: Re: Pay-Per-View Canucks

Originally posted by LuCiFeR97Z28
In a nutshell, Brian responded that at the beginning of the year, Canuck management offers ALL 82 regular season games to the TV Networks across North America. Each network decides which games to bradcast via televsion and radio. The remaining games are either not shown, or shown via Pay-Per-View, because Pay-Per-View broadcasters are the only ones with rights to telecast games. Burke supplemented his reasoning with facts and figures, indicating that the revenue generated by Pay-Per-View games is negligible, but exists solely for the purpose of furnishing the viewer with yet another option to watch his favorite team.

So in conclusion, it has more to do with politics and broadcaster red-tape than with overpaid athletes and money-hungry owners.

I know that BB came out and officially said this, however, BB tends to be one of the best candidates for "dumbass statements" on a regular basis (IMO). Not that he's not smart - for he is. It's just that he is pure lawyer. Nothing but. And he's frequently making statements that he insists is a founded solely on the complete basis of facts... later to be proven completely wrong by his own actions (or those of others).

It's not that I disagree fully with his statement, but its more like I believe that this is just a convenient answer for him in the short run. It may be true that the PPV games are simply those that the other networks wouldn't pick up (so out of the goodness of their hearts, Orca, or whoever makes the decisions, is bringing them to us so that we won't miss anything ), but there is no doubt in my mind that this is the direction BB wants to go (more PPV) - and I don't blame him. He just won't come out and say it yet (because he doesn't have to). Its better PR for him to pretend that he (or they) is doing this "because there is no other choice."

That's my business opinion on the matter. I think BB tries to come across as a no-nonsense guy who understands the typical consumer, but I suspect he is far more snow artist who has a very convincing appearance.

I have never liked dealing with businessmen who continually insist that they are simply "telling you like it is" or they are 'trying' to give the appearance that they are being completely serious and upfront with their answers. Often things are very much different. Those who are like that in the business realm are often quite different from how they preach.

Rant terminated.
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:17 PM
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, makes me wonder thoug, how much money do they make off of the pay perview, which are commercial free, compared to public Tv where they charge hundreds of thousands for 20sec commercial space?
Personnally, although I do prefer to pay nothing for something, My dad and I always order the Pay per Views and I find that not only is the picture quality way better, especially on a 51" HDTV , but the commentary and the extra features that they include between periods, is pretty d@mn good as well. It almost makes the ppv worth it. Maybe during the playoffs, I'll have you guys over and we can watch the games on the bigscreen?
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:24 PM
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I Don't have a big screen TV.. but I do have a nice FlatScreen Vega.... yea... and DTV...
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 06:26 PM
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I've noticed on most of the PPV I have watched that during the regular commercial breaks taken by the other team and their TV crew the PPV feed just watches open ice with the players standing on the side.

Not all but some games. Also, American hockey announcers suck for the most part. Unless they are from a big hockey town. (Detroit, Boston etc)

Sometimes PPV is just an excuse to get a few buddies together and buy it or watch it at a bar.

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Old Feb 13, 2003 | 07:59 PM
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, makes me wonder thoug, how much money do they make off of the pay perview, which are commercial free, compared to public Tv where they charge hundreds of thousands for 20sec commercial space?
I believe 95% of that money goes to the networks (unlike NFL in the US which seems to be able to swing excellent contracts) and all the rest is spread amongst the NHL teams who are invaolved in the contract. I believe in PPV, nearly all the proceeds go to the team. However, I don't know what a comparison of the revenues would be. ?
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 08:17 PM
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As for the PPP games...
Notice how all the good games are PPP?
Are you looking at the same Pay Per View schdule as I am??? Although some PPV games are against Colorado and Detroit, 6 out of the 12 Pay Per View games this year are played against relatively substandard and unentertaining teams ie. Columbus, Nashville, Anaheim, Calgeary, etc. Obviously PPV is not just for the 'better' games afterall!
Old Feb 13, 2003 | 09:20 PM
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hahah i got the dish so dont matta to me haha



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