What is the best thing to use to retard the timing when the nitrous is on? I want something that I can drive around with full timing with and then when I turn the nitrous on, it will pull back timing. I was thinking about selling my MSD 6AL and getting a Digital 6 but I was wanting to know if there was a cheaper way with something that will work with my MSD 6AL. I dont want anything hard to use, just something that will pull back timing when the nitrous is on.

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1980 Camaro Z28 Sikkens 3 Stage Blue and Purple

1994 Camaro Z28 Teal M6
Ported Heads, LT4 Hot Cam and Springs, 1.6 RR's, Mac Headers and Offroad Y Pipe, Flowmaster Catback, Resonators, Flowtech Cutout, NX 150 Horsepower Shot of Nitrous, NX Bottle Heater, NX Remote Bottle Opener, NOS Purge, KB DD SFCs, BMR STB, Hypertech 160 Thermostat, Redline Water Wetter and Synthetic Diff. Fluid, McLeod Dual Performance Clutch, K&N FIPK, LT4 KM, 1LE Bellow, Holley 58mm Throttle Body, TB Coolant Bypass, Metco Valve Cover Breather, LPW Rearend Support Cover, Strange 3.73s, Eaton Posi, TA Stud Kit, Lakewood LCAs and Adjustable Panhard Rod, LS1 Driveshaft, March Underdrive Pullies, MSD 6AL, MSD Window Switch, MSD Blaster Coil, NGK TR6's, Mobil 1 Synthetic, Pro 5.0 Shifter, Intrax Lowering Springs, BFGoodRich Comp TAs 255/50/16, Nitto Drag Radials 245/50/16, AVS Blackouts on the back.

339 RWHP Corrected with two broke rings

465 RWHP Corrected on the nitrous with the clutch slipping bad and two broke rings

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Me too. But it looks like upgrading the ignition to a dig. 6 or similar is the only way to go right now.

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Mario,
White 94 Z28
Yeah I got a few mods
Video
Black 87 IROC-Z

 

I see a lot of msd timing control boxes on ebay....cheap. I have a Digital6, but if on budget a used box saves money.

 

use the dig 6 .........it has a built in retard the pink wire hook it up to the power source on the solnoid and as soon as you spray it it will pullout as much as you need/want then back ti normal on motor i have it and it eorks great ..
jeff

 

i use a msd start/retard box from jegs i think it was $150

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racer1
lpe heads,intake,mac headers,nos,random torque arm,eibach drag kit,3.73s,slp,callaway honker,sfc,msd,c/e rear shocks,afpr,march pullies

 

Is it easy to use?

 

MSD has a couple different options for add-on ignition retard boxes.

-K

 

I want something that I can just use to retard the timing when on the nitrous, I dont want anything for starting or anything.

 

I've heard that the add on retard boxes pull 4 degrees of timing all the time. I don't want to pull timing N/A. Only on juice. Can anyone verify if this is true? That's the only reason why I haven't gotten one yet.

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Mario,
White 94 Z28
Yeah I got a few mods
Video
Black 87 IROC-Z

 

I dont want that either. I only want it pulling timing when the nitrous is on.

 

http://www.ramchargers.com/cgi-bin/n...890&cat2=26891

I hope the link comes thru ok.

TurboBob

 

http://www.msdignition.com/images/pn8982.GIF

MSD #8982

Start/Retard Control

Start retard eases cranking on engines with locked-out timing.
Single stage retard for high rpm or nitrous applications.
Choose 10° or 25° of retard during cranking.
For use on 4, 6 or 8-cylinder engines.
This new timing control is the direct result of MSD being at the races and listening to what racers want. With the large number of engines running locked-out timing, racers wanted a simple way to retard the timing during cranking plus have a single stage of retard available. The start retard provides either 10° or 25° of retard during cranking only. The timing will retard only while cranking and returns to the set mechanical timing once the engine starts and you release the key. Along with the start retard, this new Control also has a single stage of retard. This one retard can be activated in times of nitrous to prevent detonation or high rpm to achieve a little more top end. The amount of retard is adjustable with plug-in modules and is activated by a single wire that can be connected directly to a nitrous solenoid or a micro switch on the shifter. The Start/Retard Control is easy to install and program. It must be used with an MSD Ignition Control.
Start/Retard Control - PN 8982
Not legal for sale or use on emission controlled vehicles.

 

call ramchargers in madison hgts mi
ask for craig or terry tell them 209racing
and they will take care of you


best thing to get is msd dig 6 it puls timming only when you spray it
plus its a good piece of equipment
to have anyway

 

You can trick the cpu to pull 4 deg of timing out by messing with the ait. When the air temp reaches a certian temp it pulls out a max of 4 deg.(at least on my vette cpu). You have to find out what the resistance of the sensor is when it reaches that. Then have it hooked to another relay that is triggered when on the gas and it will switch over to the set resistor. I think it should be 750ohms. Almost just like the KR bypass swithch.

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94 Z28 M6 [R.I.P.] ( stupid stupid snowplow)
97 Corvette. MN6. All the goodies.
00 ZR600EFI Arctic Cat

 

Right on Kurtis! that's exactly what I'm looking for.
I've seen it several times, but obviously didn't read the print.
Only $119 from Summit.