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Old Mar 7, 2003 | 07:58 PM
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Can any tell me how big of shot different pistons will take cast, hypereutectic, and forged?
Old Mar 8, 2003 | 10:31 AM
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basically you've got two main types- cast and forged.

normally your stock or OEM pistons are just a regular cast aluminum piston. the next step up would be a cast hypereutectic piston, which basically just adds a little more silicon in the aluminum mix to strengthen the piston. hypereutectic pistons are better than OEM pistons, but are not the best.

from there you move up to forged pistons. the main two types of alloys used in the aluminum forged pistons are 2618 and 4032. forged pistons offer many more advantages over cast pistons including- density, strength, and durability. they are lighter and also help the engine to run cooler than with a cast piston.

a important advantage of forged over cast is what happends at the point of piston failure. generally, under extreme conditions, such as detonation, forged pistons tend to sort of "get plastic", and fail gradually. meaning there's normally time to replace them before the engine is gone. hypereutectics are more prone to facture and can actually break to pieces under extreme conditions, often wasting a motor.

obviously, the best route to go would be to build a bottom end consisting of a good forged set up (pistons, rods) but understandably not everyone can afford that. the stock pistons on a LT1 should be good up to a 150 shot or so. if the N2O is to be used on a regular basis and you are looking for longevity, i would stick closer to a 100 (maybe occassionally swapping the 150s). i've sen people run a higher shot (than 150), but most of the time those are poeple that have other modes of transportation, if you get my drift



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Old Mar 16, 2003 | 10:24 AM
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Originally posted by COMNBYU
basically you've got two main types- cast and forged.

normally your stock or OEM pistons are just a regular cast aluminum piston. the next step up would be a cast hypereutectic piston, which basically just adds a little more silicon in the aluminum mix to strengthen the piston. hypereutectic pistons are better than OEM pistons, but are not the best.

from there you move up to forged pistons. the main two types of alloys used in the aluminum forged pistons are 2618 and 4032. forged pistons offer many more advantages over cast pistons including- density, strength, and durability. they are lighter and also help the engine to run cooler than with a cast piston.

a important advantage of forged over cast is what happends at the point of piston failure. generally, under extreme conditions, such as detonation, forged pistons tend to sort of "get plastic", and fail gradually. meaning there's normally time to replace them before the engine is gone. hypereutectics are more prone to facture and can actually break to pieces under extreme conditions, often wasting a motor.

obviously, the best route to go would be to build a bottom end consisting of a good forged set up (pistons, rods) but understandably not everyone can afford that. the stock pistons on a LT1 should be good up to a 150 shot or so. if the N2O is to be used on a regular basis and you are looking for longevity, i would stick closer to a 100 (maybe occassionally swapping the 150s). i've sen people run a higher shot (than 150), but most of the time those are poeple that have other modes of transportation, if you get my drift



good luck, jon
Old Mar 16, 2003 | 06:12 PM
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stock LT1 pistons are hypereutectic.......

i sprayed the hell out of mine with the 150 shot with TR6's only pulling 2* of spark till i lost a piece of a piston. i was going through about a bottle a week. the hyper pistons cannot handle the heat and the ring lands begin to rack. if you spray a 150, pull 4* of spark to keep the heat down.

now i am just trying to get this 383 running right so i can spray the forged slugs to death!
Old Mar 17, 2003 | 04:35 PM
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Thanks guys can any of you tell me who makes a good cheap set of forged pistons.
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Old Mar 18, 2003 | 12:45 AM
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SRP makes affordable forged pistons.
Old Mar 20, 2003 | 02:05 AM
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Originally posted by '95 z-28/ '00 montepace
stock LT1 pistons are hypereutectic.......

i sprayed the hell out of mine with the 150 shot with TR6's only pulling 2* of spark till i lost a piece of a piston. i was going through about a bottle a week. the hyper pistons cannot handle the heat and the ring lands begin to rack. if you spray a 150, pull 4* of spark to keep the heat down.

now i am just trying to get this 383 running right so i can spray the forged slugs to death!
WOW a bottle a week! do you spray that thing on your way to work? I don't have nitrous, but I thought you could get around 10-12 runs per bottle, looks like you really enjoy the gas.--although I can't say I blame ya
Old Mar 20, 2003 | 07:33 AM
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i sprayed everywhere. i would look for excuses to drive just to spray
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 03:46 PM
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Thanks for the info. I plan on useing forged pistons for the same reason.
Old Mar 24, 2003 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by '95 z-28/ '00 montepace
stock LT1 pistons are hypereutectic.......

i sprayed the hell out of mine with the 150 shot with TR6's only pulling 2* of spark till i lost a piece of a piston. i was going through about a bottle a week. the hyper pistons cannot handle the heat and the ring lands begin to rack. if you spray a 150, pull 4* of spark to keep the heat down.

now i am just trying to get this 383 running right so i can spray the forged slugs to death!
Yeah baby .....same here.....broke the ring lands in #1 sprayn a 150 shot hard and often. The block is a the machine shop right now. This warm weather is gettn me real antsy. Im about ready to put the kit in the mini van.....Ive got 3 full bottles to spend.
Old Mar 25, 2003 | 10:50 AM
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gold vert, where are you located?




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