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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 04:04 PM
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NEW DRY KIT 50-400hp

For those looking for the ultimate dry kit with power adjustability from 50 to 400hp then look no further because the kit you want is the Nitrous Pro-Flow EFI DRY SYSTEM from Wilson Manifolds.

This dry kit incorparates all the solenoids in one billet assembly block including a built in purge and fuel psi gauge from 0-150. Also has built in regulator with 6 prong weather pack connector. Everything is included in the kit and best of all the kit comes with a prewired harness plus a billet braket that holds the full throttle micro switch(application limited) and as a added bonus for those that use a Hobbs switch(Fuel Pressure Safety Switch) is also included in kt. Kit also comes with stainless jets that are lazer cut for a accurate jet size. This system uses a .125" conical discharge dry nozzle which makes for a very efficient nozzle head design. System also comes with a large .115" orifice nitrous solenoid that is standard for the kit as compared to the lame NX solenoid they include with orifice .063" SMALL! System is complete.

This is by far the best dry nitrous kit I have seen in production todate. I seen this kit when I purchase a intake manifold from Wilson's. If anyone has doubts about the company that makes this kit rest at ease becuase Wilson Manifolds has been making sheet metal intakes and CNCing cast intakes for years and is a well respected company in the drag race,Nascar,street rod,SCCA Trans-Am circles.

Check it out you will not be sorry!
Old Oct 11, 2003 | 04:15 PM
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Comparing thier top of the line solenoid to a standard Stage 1 NX solenoid is kind of unfair don't you think? Now compare thier .115 orifice solenoid to NX Super Shark solenoid that has a .157 orifice. Wilson is definately a quality company and if someone has a F.A.S.T and a fully set up fuel system I am sure this system would be great, but its for maybe the top 2% of nitrous users and not really a bolt on and go system like what you are comparing it too.

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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 06:44 PM
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Speed,

This isn't a race kit for one and they do offer specific to model kits. As for there top of the line solenoid I wouldn't go as far to say that considering .115" orifice. Shannon Jenkins in ProMod is running there products and I doubt he puts up the ET's(6.00 in 1/4 200+mph) he does with a .115" solenoid.

I understand your reply to this thread more so for the fact you sell NX products as your bread and butter but I my self ran NX systems for far to long! After one problem after another with manufacturing defects and incomplete R&D on released items I would just not prefer to get in to it nor should you as this the product you offer.

Don't get me wrong with what I'm saying and nothing against you but I'm just giving my experience with NX and after the[B] b u l l s h i t[B] I put up with from them and broken parts caused by faulty products they released but only at my exspense or I should say the consumer. I had no choice but to make a change. Trust me when I say this I for one wish I could be saying that my NX products made the power that I needed considering the money I had in NX nozzles,solenoids and so on trying to find out why power was off and then changing to another manufacture was a huge exspense.

As for the Wilson EFI Dry kit and what it comes with it is top notch bolt on kit. How would you figure it's not? Granted this kit will go from 50 to 400hp that would not indeed make it a race kit.

If a person is stupid enought to throw a 400 dry tuneup to there stock motor then they for one shouldn't be driving a car in the first place. Anyone that even considers using nitrous should at least have some brains about the precautions and not be affraid to read the instructions included with each kit and start small. I even know NX includes such warnings with each kit, at least they used to.

I posted this about Wilson only to inform people about another very nice dry kit that is out there, not to try and sell it to them.

For one thing I don't even run Wilson nitrous kits nor do I have any experience with it but I do know when I see a very good quality kit that includes high quality parts and this infact is one of them.

Good luck to all!
Old Oct 11, 2003 | 07:26 PM
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I had a feeling I would regret replying to your post becasue I felt you would be attack me and NX and everything else. I wish I had gone with my "gut" and steered clear of your post, but unfortunately I did not and I feel that was my mistake. I don't want to get into any kind of heated debate with you or anything like that so I will apologize for replying to your post and I will post no further on your thread. Thanks

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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 10:41 PM
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That's not a problem and I can appreciate a comment but making a statement or giving advice that is not correct is something totally different and does in fact requires a reply if wrong wouldn't you agree?

You should not have any regret to this post or any other I make but facts are the facts and if you consider me attacking you then WOW! I'm sorry! I'm not attacking you or any one else or anything per say.

If you read what I said; "Don't get me wrong with what I'm saying and nothing against you but I'm just giving my experience with NX" this was nothing toward you.

If what I said bothers you or you feel I'm wrong then please by all means prove me or show me I'm wrong. I will be the first to admit I'm wrong if this be the case.
Old Oct 13, 2003 | 03:12 PM
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Dry kits are for the birds. May as well be considered a race kit with the injectors and F.A.S.T or Impedence box and the rest of the fuel system needed. Calling that a " non race" kit is kinda insane....

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Old Oct 13, 2003 | 03:38 PM
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I lay no claim to be a nitrous guru, but I have to agree with FireAm94 regarding dry kits. For the vast majority of nitrous users a wet setup seems to provide good results with easy tunability. I would certainly consider a dry kit if I were using an aftermarket ECU, but I am not.

WRT solenoids, is the orifice NX provides really that small? I started a thread on that subject and got conflicting responses. I went ahead using two 52 nitrous jets and two 32 fuel jets and they worked fine. So whatever the actual dimensions are, the solenoids were "big enough". 2x52 is ~a 220hp nitrous shot, and the solenoid is marketed as part of kit advertised for "50-150"hp so I know it's big enough for that level for sure.

As far as NX vs. other brands, I don't know enough about the various brands to get involved.

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Old Oct 15, 2003 | 06:25 PM
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I don't really see any problems running virtually any of the systems currently available. Edelbrock, NOS, NX, BG, TNT, Wilson all seem to have a decent product for the sportsman/weekend racer.

Brand X vs. Brand Y is an age old arguement, and it ain't getting any more interesting guys, lets just leave it where it sits. Preferences be as it may, I think every system has their direct market share where they shine.

My personal setup is actually using a Wilson plate w/ a few tweaks.I couldn't be any happier. (OK, well maybe I'd be happier if my class rules didn't change allowing Foggers just when I got done this plate ready LOL).
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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Good to hear input!

KTamez,

How are you comming on that 23 degree monster? LOL!!!!(23 degree) LOL!!!!

I really do like the intake work Wilson does. I had him do that intake work I asked you about. Where and when do you think you will be out this comming year?

See Ya,
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 11:19 AM
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LOL Jim. Maybe we should put my 23 degree motor (give or take a couple of degrees ), into that 25.x cert'd monster.

BTW did you already get the car tagged? If not I would before the end of this year (preferrably NOW!) The new SFI rules are nearly here. My Dad's 3 year old Jerry Bickel Corvette would already need updates, and has gone from being 25.1c to a 25.1e.

Cars like mine with Stock style suspension will be illegal below 8.50, and on the horizon any mild steel car too... Anything over 3200 lbs, man it just keeps getting more stringent. The Streets and Outlaw Tracks are gonna get crowded I think.

http://members.boardhost.com/pscaracing1/msg/78701.html
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 12:35 PM
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Originally posted by KTamez
LOL Jim. Maybe we should put my 23 degree motor (give or take a couple of degrees ), into that 25.x cert'd monster.

BTW did you already get the car tagged? If not I would before the end of this year (preferrably NOW!) The new SFI rules are nearly here. My Dad's 3 year old Jerry Bickel Corvette would already need updates, and has gone from being 25.1c to a 25.1e.

http://members.boardhost.com/pscaracing1/msg/78701.html
Hey Kurtis,

Your motor in a tube car is the way to go! With the power it will make you get a whole lot of experience in how to control a car breaking the tires loose at speeds from 0-130mph. LOL!! I remember those day and all the fun it was on the street doing block long burnouts on command.

Heard about the SFI updates and my car is at the chassis shop now. The car was certified with a Pro Tag and SFI 25.1D for the new motor awaiting to go in after the LTx motor. I have been considering going the rest of the way forward but just don't want to shell out any more cash for the rest of the chassis and upgrade to a Liberty or Lenco. I just want to get out and have some fun! Thanks for heads up on the up dates.

PS: I know where there is a 67 Corvette Tim McAmis car for sale with your name all over it! LOL!!

Take Care,
Jim Winn
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 03:55 PM
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LOL, I wouldn't buy a McAmis car, I know someone that has had some pretty serious great Customer service issues with him. I also saw a brand new McAmis car in Bickel's shop a couple years ago w/ 3 passes on it "getting fixed" because it didn't work right and wasn't square. Bickel or Haas for me if/when that day comes.I also have Brad Hadman right here in my backyard, and there isn't a chassis builder any better in the world then Brad.

Most likely the most you'll ever see me with is a 25.x backhalf like you've got going. My goal is to do some Outlaw 10.5 stuff in the future. I doubt I'll spend the coin on this car, but rather buy a competitive car turnkey (Most likely a Mustang LOL). I could've already had a Competitive Turnkey car for what I'm in this Stock Suspension Camaro.
Old Oct 16, 2003 | 07:02 PM
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I really like Wilson's stuff but when their direct port kit costs $1750 i don't see how it can be that much better than the other guys. How much is this dry kit gonna cost?
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:38 AM
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[B]Speed,

I understand your reply to this thread more so for the fact you sell NX products as your bread and butter but I my self ran NX systems for far to long! After one problem after another with manufacturing defects and incomplete R&D on released items I would just not prefer to get in to it nor should you as this the product you offer.

Don't get me wrong with what I'm saying and nothing against you but I'm just giving my experience with NX and after the[B] b u l l s h i t I put up with from them and broken parts caused by faulty products they released but only at my exspense or I should say the consumer. I had no choice but to make a change. Trust me when I say this I for one wish I could be saying that my NX products made the power that I needed considering the money I had in NX nozzles,solenoids and so on trying to find out why power was off and then changing to another manufacture was a huge exspense.

I even know NX includes such warnings with each kit, at least they used to.
I was going to buy the NX Hitman Kit for my Chevelle because I have ONLY herd great things about NX. The people swore up and down on them but didn't like NOS or NW.

What's the real deal ???
Old Oct 22, 2003 | 09:50 AM
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Almost everyone around my town runs NX and I haven't heard of ONE SINGLE PROBLEM with them. When I purchase my kit it will definately be NX.

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