I just want an education about carb plate style nitrous systems. It seems that every company has one available and pricing is all about the same. What are some of the differences to look for? Which kits have good reputations? Thanks

 

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Ryan

 

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Good Question! I have herd that the new style NX plates have precision drilled holes in their bars that are better than the older styles (NX, NOS, Edelbrock, etc.) I also herd that the older style bars were not efficient in supplying enough fuel/nitrous to the rear cylinders on a SBC.

I would like to here from some seasoned nitrous junkies on this.
Can anyone validate this info?

Heavy

 

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Then new NX plates do not even have bars.... They have the holes drilled directly into a billet plate... The nitrous actually flows through the plate.. The great advantage of this is that with the holes drilled through billet, you can aim where you want the flow to go...They say that the new NX gemini Twin, and gemini Quad plates totally relieve distribuition problems on a single plane intake manifold. I just recently purchased a gemini quad plate, and I am VERY VERY impressed with it's design.

 

Plate's are not all the same! I only know one guy that tried switching from NOS to NX's plate system and this was NX's race system that used two spray bars plumbed through each side. The guy switched to the NX system and his ET feel by 3 tenths and after talking with NX and replacing parts on this new system he found out that the spray bars where plumbed from the factory with the spray bar orifices spraying at the side of the intake manifold walls? **** poor quality! He switched back to NOS plate and picked 3 tenths back up.

The guy's screen name is Mr.SS check this site, many people there are using plates with great success and will tell you the thruth as to what works and makes power and why. www.gofastzone.com You hear from guy's with 7 second street cars and slower.

 

Not **** poor quality..... The plate with the 2 spray bars on each side is the gemini twin.... The instructions also state that if you have a single plane intake with the clover shaped top, then you have to do a little machine work for it to aim the mixture right. When it was shooting across, it was hitting the bumps in the middle, which have to be machined down. If the intake is machined (as mine had to be) the nx plates distribute nitrous and fuel much better than a standard center spray bar plate.

 

Interesting, so if I understand it correctly NX requires the intake to have some machining done in order to run this plate. That must have slipped NX John Phillip's mind when he was also trying to figure out the problem when we all where at a recent NSCA race. Considering the intake used(Dart/Wilson with dominator top 4500) this intake would have still required machining?

I guess that's why he switched back to NOS plate and started running back in the 8's again.

With all that exspense just to run the NX plate may as well go with a direct port fogger. Heck costs should be to far off.

 

I Did mine using bluing compound and a die grinder, matched it to the plate and my intake is a DART as well.... Any half abled person can do it in their own garage. If it was on a Victor Jr. Intake then no machining would be required. I've had so much NOS stuff go bad, that I will never buy their crap again.. Just look at the quality of NOS's solenoids, bottle heaters, bottle openers, and just about everything else they sell. If I have to grind on my intake a little bit to get the best distribution, and safety, then by-god, I'll do it. Especially on a small block chevy, where cylinders 5 & 7 are right next to each other in firing order.

BTW.... NX doesn't even use the dual spray bar gemini twin anymore (although there wasn't anything wrong with it.) It's now completely billet, with no spray bars inherant.

Straight up, your boy messed up by not following directions. The majority of racing and gaining performance involves more than "bolt on" parts. Damn near every project on a high end race vehicle demands a little fabrication, and inginuity.... With your boy as the exception, everyone else I've ever talked to that switched from NOS to NX has stayed NX.

 

Very good points you mentioned.

About the NX billet spray assembly...

What kit comes with it?

I was looking into the Hitman kit for next year, does it use it or the old spray bar type?

 

I'm not sure about the hitman system. I know that the higher end systems come with the new plate, but I haven't seen the new hitman system yet. I'm not a dealer, I just happen to be good friends with one... lol....

 

I'm guessing your in the southern region maybe even in Texas? NX country. That would explain your love for there garbage systems seeing NX is in your back yard located in Texas.

I have one question to ask ya how much are you spraying your motor? I'm guessing not much considering your ET's, with that in mind that should be even more reason to switch to a different company. If you need me to explain I will. I just wish you and the other NX followers where remotely close to Michigan so I could demonstrate first hand how a suprior nitrous system performs.

If I said it once I will say it again just look at what the fastest car's out are running for nitrous systems and it sure isn't NX! It's NOS PRO RACE FOGGER AND PLATE SYSTEMS.

Even the LS1 guy's even know what makes power, the majority of them run NOS systems.

You telling me my friend messesd up by not reading the instruction is a laught! He's running high 8.90's with a sbc in a 3000lb car, what are you running again? Low 11's on the bottle!

You must have missed the part about John Phillips not even knowing how to fix the problem, obviously you don't know who John is, he is NX's top tech that travels to the majority of NSCA races. The fact you fail to realise is a plate system was meant to just bolt on not modify the intake to use it, kinda defeats the idea behind the whole plate concept of no modifacation just bolt on and go idea.

Sounds to me NX once again released a poor manufactured product again with out enought R&D. As far as any other manufacture requiring a person to remove there intake to modify the inside in order for the system to perform there is not a one out there except NX. Now why is that? Seem kinda odd to me plus if most people new this up front they would not have more than likely purchase the kit.

I'm interested to hear anyone answere why NX would have a person go to these lengths in order to run the kit? It for sure isn't make a huge difference in power.

Anyone?

 

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, and that is mine... Why you have to go and talk smack about me is another thing.. That was uncalled for. I never talked smack, just said your boy didn't read the directions, and if he DID NOT machine the DART intake, then that's why he dropped 3 tenths.... I'm guessing that the NX tech just figured he was like any other normal human and he read the directions, but evidently you're "super racer" boyfriend didn't.

My car runs 11.3 in Amarillo Tx.... We are at 3800 feet, but usually the corrected altitude is upwards of 6000 FEET!!!!

My car ran 11's on a 8.1:1, cast piston, $325 dollar bottom end... That's what I payed for it.. It was a reman stock replacement shortblock. I bought it with the intention of selling the car after I got it running. Total money in the car running low 11's was $3100. So not too bad. I was spraying 150 shot with NX solenoids (because 2 NOS solenoids started leaking POS's).


If anyone else has noticed, every time JWINN posts something, he talks smack.. He did the same thing on a post I made about electric fuel pumps. So therefore, may his "8 second street Camaro" please break a rocker arm, and launch a pushrod through his throat.

 

Maybe consider the tone you have brung forth in both the past and present would be a good indicatore why you recieved the response you did!

Now instead of crying like a little girl how about giving me your solid explanation about the question I asked? Just as you make accusation to the intelligence about a experienced racer and his problem with a NX plate system that infact isn't something normal to have to do in order to make a plate work.

Your giving advice or nocking someones response because what they say or beleave at the same time it shouldn't be a surprise when your point gets argued. You should go back and read what you just posted, I mean common are you kidding me! Don't cry when you get challenged on a topic. What do you expect when you make comments like you did eventually your going to run into people that will defend what they think is true.

What's so wrong with what I said? I just gave my opion. If your upset about the ET comment then work on toughing up or get that car going faster so you can support what smack your dishing out! Everybody gets beat up on at one point or another when it comes to track times. Its all good fun.

Now dry them tears up because there getting all over that skirt your wearing!

 

Hey guys, sorry for bringing this sore thread up again but I need to have a question answered.

I purchased a used NOS cheater kit and it cam with 2 plates! The first is a black NOS plate that has the 2 bars mounted through the center each having 4 spray holes. The other plate is an unknown brand that is 1 inch thick, silver or aluminium in color, and has very similiar spray hole setup. I was told that the old school design of these plates tend to leave the rear 2 cylinders LEAN sometimes. I feel this is true BUT do the newer spray plates with ALOT more holes eliminate this problem?

Also, I called NX and they told me they didn't know anything about that billit plate with the built in spray holes. They said their new plate is the gemini plate with dual nitrous/fuel bars than run near the outer edges of the plate. Those are a little pricey.

There is a guy on Ebay selling this no name brand nitrous equipment for very reasonable prices and I was wondering if his multi-hole plate would be worth trying over the old school plate??

Heres the ebay link to the plate...

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2455820057

thanks guys!