Any predictions what the Love Boat will run on the hose?
My nitrous stuff is on order, hope to have everything within two weeks. I am going with the new NX MAF setup, planning on spraying a 200 shot.
I got all the goodies with it, 15lb bottle, purge, bottle heater, fuel pressure safety switch, remote opener, and a Mallory 685 box with built in window switch and timing retard.
My bottom end is stock, CC306 cam and ARE stage II heads. I make 364 RWHP and 410 RWTQ on motor, car runs 12.1's @111 at 4,100 lbs. I plan to spray between 4,000-6,400 RPM. I have a 4,100 Vigilante and want to make my 4L60 live as long as possible so I don't want to spray at 3K.
I really want to run at least 10.80's, think I can shave 1.4 seconds off with a 200 shot? The car hooks great now, has all the suspension goodies. I nail down 1.6x 60's on nearly every pass.
I will be pulling timing for safety and won't spray the car much. I just want to get some good time slips and have it for when I need it
So what are your predictions?
I got all the goodies with it, 15lb bottle, purge, bottle heater, fuel pressure safety switch, remote opener, and a Mallory 685 box with built in window switch and timing retard.
My bottom end is stock, CC306 cam and ARE stage II heads. I make 364 RWHP and 410 RWTQ on motor, car runs 12.1's @111 at 4,100 lbs. I plan to spray between 4,000-6,400 RPM. I have a 4,100 Vigilante and want to make my 4L60 live as long as possible so I don't want to spray at 3K.
I really want to run at least 10.80's, think I can shave 1.4 seconds off with a 200 shot? The car hooks great now, has all the suspension goodies. I nail down 1.6x 60's on nearly every pass.
I will be pulling timing for safety and won't spray the car much. I just want to get some good time slips and have it for when I need it
So what are your predictions?
I think with a good, safe tune it will take a 200 shot without issue. I'm more worried about my tranny honestly. SSMOKEM has been spraying a 200 shot on his stock bottom end for over two years now, still together
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His Nittos are on backwards
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Good luck keeping the trans together! I would run the high octane fuel when I sprayed that much, just incase!
Ryan
His Nittos are on backwards
.Good luck keeping the trans together! I would run the high octane fuel when I sprayed that much, just incase!
Ryan
Originally posted by 96-speed
http://www.cadwiz.net/cherrybomb/Mor...ictures_2.html
His Nittos are on backwards
.
Good luck keeping the trans together! I would run the high octane fuel when I sprayed that much, just incase!
Ryan
http://www.cadwiz.net/cherrybomb/Mor...ictures_2.html
His Nittos are on backwards
.Good luck keeping the trans together! I would run the high octane fuel when I sprayed that much, just incase!
Ryan
Hey guys,
I've been running the 200 shot on my stock bottom and 93 octane since Dec of 99, over 3 years
I have 160+ runs on the juice since then.
Andy, you have much better heads than I do, so I believe 1.5 seconds is a good goal. I've been getting 1.2 to 1.3 seconds or so.
By the way, I just threw the tires on to take the pictures. Here is the way my tires are on now:
I've been running the 200 shot on my stock bottom and 93 octane since Dec of 99, over 3 years
I have 160+ runs on the juice since then.Andy, you have much better heads than I do, so I believe 1.5 seconds is a good goal. I've been getting 1.2 to 1.3 seconds or so.
By the way, I just threw the tires on to take the pictures. Here is the way my tires are on now:

Last edited by George Debski; Mar 6, 2003 at 06:31 PM.
Originally posted by George Debski
Hey guys,
I've been running the 200 shot on my stock bottom and 93 octane since Dec of 99, over 3 years
I have 160+ runs on the juice since then.
Andy, you have much better heads than I do, so I believe 1.5 seconds is a good goal. I've been getting 1.2 to 1.3 seconds or so.
By the way, I just threw the tires on to take the pictures. Here is the way my tires are on now:
Hey guys,
I've been running the 200 shot on my stock bottom and 93 octane since Dec of 99, over 3 years
I have 160+ runs on the juice since then.Andy, you have much better heads than I do, so I believe 1.5 seconds is a good goal. I've been getting 1.2 to 1.3 seconds or so.
By the way, I just threw the tires on to take the pictures. Here is the way my tires are on now:

The motor will handle it as long as your not experiencing detonantion - the hypercraptics are not very forgiving though.
piston
Unfortunately, the additional 300(+)lbs of torque is going to kill your tranny - probably within a season. Start looking now for alternatives unless you want to go through the tranny every 6 months to a year. Been there, done that... George, seeing that you're also running a TH400, sounds like you may have been there too.
piston
Unfortunately, the additional 300(+)lbs of torque is going to kill your tranny - probably within a season. Start looking now for alternatives unless you want to go through the tranny every 6 months to a year. Been there, done that... George, seeing that you're also running a TH400, sounds like you may have been there too.
Originally posted by speedmiser
The motor will handle it as long as your not experiencing detonantion - the hypercraptics are not very forgiving though.
piston
Unfortunately, the additional 300(+)lbs of torque is going to kill your tranny - probably within a season. Start looking now for alternatives unless you want to go through the tranny every 6 months to a year. Been there, done that... George, seeing that you're also running a TH400, sounds like you may have been there too.
The motor will handle it as long as your not experiencing detonantion - the hypercraptics are not very forgiving though.
piston
Unfortunately, the additional 300(+)lbs of torque is going to kill your tranny - probably within a season. Start looking now for alternatives unless you want to go through the tranny every 6 months to a year. Been there, done that... George, seeing that you're also running a TH400, sounds like you may have been there too.
I am concerned about the tranny. I had a bulletproof rebuild about 3 years and 9,000 miles ago. Still going strong. I don't expect it to last too long on the spray, it will be on the dyno before the track just too see how it's going to take it. I really want to stick with the 4l60E though, can't lose my overdrive. It does suck shelling out $2K for a good rebuild though

Thanks for the info George, I am really excited. I have been in the 12's for a long time now, I think I want to skip the 11's all together
When it comes to a big nitrous shot, I dont think there is any such thing as a bulletproof rebuild on a 4L60 - just too much torque. I went through 2 supposed "bulletproof" rebuilds on mine. By the time it was over I had over $4000.00 invested between the 2 tranny rebuilds, (which included a new valve body and the 2 convertors), only to once again have a tranny that was dead.
From what I've heard the 4L80E can make a good alternative if you want to keep the overdrive. So would a TH400 and Gear Vendor overdrive. If I wouldnt have dumped all that money in my 4l60, I could have easily afforded a TH400 with Gear Vendor overdrive, and still saved some large cash...
Oh well, that's hindsight...
From what I've heard the 4L80E can make a good alternative if you want to keep the overdrive. So would a TH400 and Gear Vendor overdrive. If I wouldnt have dumped all that money in my 4l60, I could have easily afforded a TH400 with Gear Vendor overdrive, and still saved some large cash...
Oh well, that's hindsight...
Last edited by speedmiser; Mar 7, 2003 at 10:29 AM.
Hey speedmiser,
I spent 2800 on my 4L60E before I gave up. As you said, coulda paid for the Gear Vendors!!
As we say in Florida: "If you ain't sprayin', you ain't racin'...." 
Andy, I hope it's a 2 stage or progressive, otherwise forget about any kind of decent 60" times with a 200 shot off the line!! I spray 120 off the line, and an 80 shot five tenths later. I still have NEVER hooked on the juice. Best of 1.67 with lots of spinning from 20' out to past the 60' mark.
I spent 2800 on my 4L60E before I gave up. As you said, coulda paid for the Gear Vendors!!
If I'm playin, I'm sprayin

Andy, I hope it's a 2 stage or progressive, otherwise forget about any kind of decent 60" times with a 200 shot off the line!! I spray 120 off the line, and an 80 shot five tenths later. I still have NEVER hooked on the juice. Best of 1.67 with lots of spinning from 20' out to past the 60' mark.
Last edited by George Debski; Mar 7, 2003 at 10:45 AM.
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