telegraph tonight....
Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI
The pitbull is a sure way to attract the opposite sex
The pitbull is a sure way to attract the opposite sex

The other female pitt was beautiful. They really took to each other that's for sure.
True the dog had more fun out there than we did. But as soon as we are ready to roll...watch out
Maybe next weekend ill bring Tank and Devenomer can bring Hunter, our 130 pound Rottweiller, out.
There's nothing more dangerous than a pitbull/rottwieler owner in denial. They may be the nicest dogs on earth most of the time but it just takes that one kid that hops the fence to get his ball and gets mauled that brings everything into reality. They are aggressive teritorial animals that are very unpredictable. That goes for a lot of dogs but for the most part those two are the worst or most commen. I'm all for people owning them, just respecting the fact that they can be very dangerous. To say that all pitbull/rottwielers are alright because your are is just a little naive.
Not bashing, just the comments hit a little nerve. Theres a Rott across the street from me that damn near goes through the front screen every time I walk out to my truck. I am a little affraid that my 2 year old daughter might be in danger at some time in the future and I may have to put a bullit between the dogs eyes.
By the way I've owned both types of dogs and they were both great.
-Jon
Not bashing, just the comments hit a little nerve. Theres a Rott across the street from me that damn near goes through the front screen every time I walk out to my truck. I am a little affraid that my 2 year old daughter might be in danger at some time in the future and I may have to put a bullit between the dogs eyes.
By the way I've owned both types of dogs and they were both great.
-Jon
I never said they were not dangerous dogs. But, as with any breed, how the dogs are brought up plays a big part in their attitude and temperment.
We know all of our dog's (4 total) limitations. You respect your dogs and they will respect you. Education about whatever breed you own is the best way to train as well.
We know all of our dog's (4 total) limitations. You respect your dogs and they will respect you. Education about whatever breed you own is the best way to train as well.
Originally posted by ur2slow
There's nothing more dangerous than a pitbull/rottwieler owner in denial. They may be the nicest dogs on earth most of the time but it just takes that one kid that hops the fence to get his ball and gets mauled that brings everything into reality. They are aggressive teritorial animals that are very unpredictable. That goes for a lot of dogs but for the most part those two are the worst or most commen. I'm all for people owning them, just respecting the fact that they can be very dangerous. To say that all pitbull/rottwielers are alright because your are is just a little naive.
Not bashing, just the comments hit a little nerve. Theres a Rott across the street from me that damn near goes through the front screen every time I walk out to my truck. I am a little affraid that my 2 year old daughter might be in danger at some time in the future and I may have to put a bullit between the dogs eyes.
By the way I've owned both types of dogs and they were both great.
-Jon
There's nothing more dangerous than a pitbull/rottwieler owner in denial. They may be the nicest dogs on earth most of the time but it just takes that one kid that hops the fence to get his ball and gets mauled that brings everything into reality. They are aggressive teritorial animals that are very unpredictable. That goes for a lot of dogs but for the most part those two are the worst or most commen. I'm all for people owning them, just respecting the fact that they can be very dangerous. To say that all pitbull/rottwielers are alright because your are is just a little naive.
Not bashing, just the comments hit a little nerve. Theres a Rott across the street from me that damn near goes through the front screen every time I walk out to my truck. I am a little affraid that my 2 year old daughter might be in danger at some time in the future and I may have to put a bullit between the dogs eyes.
By the way I've owned both types of dogs and they were both great.
-Jon
http://www.devenomer.com/
Looks like you got yourself a new ride. Looks pretty wicked!
When are we gonna see it up on telegraph?
Looks like you got yourself a new ride. Looks pretty wicked!
When are we gonna see it up on telegraph?
Originally posted by IROC5.7TPI
Dude don't say you know me or my dog. You just pissed me right off. My dog won't even bark at a person coming to the door or passing by the house. It has no aggression whatsoever. I am not in any kind of denial, i just know how to raise my animals. Just because your neighbor raised his dog to intimidate you doesn't mean **** about mine. You just rubbed me the wrong way buddy. Its not my dog you gotta worry about, its me. I'll shoot your *** before I'll let my dog get hurt... Oh, and if your kid wanders onto someones property that has a dog that is somehwat aggressive... Its on YOU. Its your kid. you teach it. Don't blame the owner whos in "denial" blame the parent that don't watch their toddlers at all times.
Dude don't say you know me or my dog. You just pissed me right off. My dog won't even bark at a person coming to the door or passing by the house. It has no aggression whatsoever. I am not in any kind of denial, i just know how to raise my animals. Just because your neighbor raised his dog to intimidate you doesn't mean **** about mine. You just rubbed me the wrong way buddy. Its not my dog you gotta worry about, its me. I'll shoot your *** before I'll let my dog get hurt... Oh, and if your kid wanders onto someones property that has a dog that is somehwat aggressive... Its on YOU. Its your kid. you teach it. Don't blame the owner whos in "denial" blame the parent that don't watch their toddlers at all times.
As far as my situation you obviously mis-read what I wrote. This dog is trying to get out at people nobody is going in it's yard. As far as being intimidated that couldn't be farther from the case. I can't waite for the day that it comes after me, it's when it comes after one of my kids playing in MY yard the I'm scared to death of. Also when I was referring to a kid jumping over the fence, I wasn't referring to a toddler.
I was talking about a 10 year old going to get his ball not realizing that his life is about to be endangered. If you think for one second that the police are going to go and tell that kids parents "well it his fault because he shouldn't have been on that guys property" you are sadly mistaken. Are you going to shoot the police officer when they go to drag your dog away.
All I can say DUDE is good luck.
Last edited by ur2slow; Apr 19, 2004 at 09:26 AM.
Sorry UR2SLO but the whole stereotype that pitbulls receive is BS and it just pisses me off that there are so many people out there that think because its a pitbull or a rottweiler that they are mean and bred to kill. I don;t have any kids so that why I defend my animals because they are my family. I raised them and know for a fact that if a kid (lets say a 10 year old by your example) came in my yard the only thing that would happen to it is it would get lciked to death. Sorry to come off as an @sshole but I really defend these animals for the bad rap that they have. And you are correct in saying that a bunch of young kids own them because they think its cool. Most of them think its cool to have a mean animal. I don't. Didn't mean to jack the tele thread here. sorry.
Plain and simple... I defend my animals as most would defend their children. In fact I think i am more responsible towards my pets than most people are with their kids. My black lab listens better than my neighbors kid. Anyhow enough of this.
Plain and simple... I defend my animals as most would defend their children. In fact I think i am more responsible towards my pets than most people are with their kids. My black lab listens better than my neighbors kid. Anyhow enough of this.
I think this is kinda getting off-topic...but since it hits home to me as well...
I am an owner of a Rott myself. I take care of my dog, I train it to be respectful and to know his place. He is not overly aggressive or territorial. That said, EVERY dog still has to be watched. There are always cases of dogs who are the most gentle dog in the world, but the right circumstances has led to something terrible. You are right, it takes that one kid who thinks it is okay to hop the fence to retrieve a ball to change everything. We watch our dog carefully, especially when he is out running around (usually laying around) in our yard. You just never know what will happen. We don't think that he would do anything if something like that were to happen, but what do we REALLY know? We don't, and we act responsibly about it just as we are supposed to.
It is the OWNER of the dog that needs to take responsibility for their animal. The dogs get bad reputations because the owner is negligent. Not EVERY Rott or Pit Bull or whatever is aggressive and territorial. Some are, some aren't.
Like I said, my dog is a gentle giant. We have a 7-year old. When I play rough with Cooper (my dog), he plays rough with me. However, when my son plays with him, Cooper is VERY delicate and won't even begin to start playing rough like he does with me. Heck, our kid climbs all over him, and he just lays there with a look on his face like "how humiliating". We are very fortunate to have a dog with such a demeanor. If you care enough to do a seach, I have mentioned a few other caes of how good our dog is.
I am not in "denial" or being "naive". You can ask a few dozen people in this forum who have been to my house as they have met my dog, he's a big baby.
Of course, I could list a thousand people who have met my dog and it wouldn't make a difference because again, we always watch him VERY carefully just in case that ONE time should occur. That is every responsible dog owner's obligation.
It sounds like the Rott in your case was not trained well nor is it cared for properly. It is dogs/owners like that which gives others a very bad name. You may want to talk to the authorities and just get it on record that your neighbor's dog is acting in a manner that concerns you. From the sounds of it, they need to look into it. It is too bad you have to live like that.
For the record, you are more then welcome to drop by my place with your daughter to meet my dog. He loves kids...with gravy. Just kidding. He does like kids and people. He happy to see a visitor in our home and he usually just sniffs them for a moment to check them out and then when he realizes they are not hiding a Milk-Bone somewhere in their pocket, he goes back and lays down. He's pretty lazy.
I know it is an awkward invitation and probably nothing you are interested in, but in all seriousness, the offer is open. We can talk shop, too.
Really, though...it is such a shame that bad dog owners give good dog owners a very bad name and because we are so very happy with our dog as part of our family, it definitely hits a nerve when people judge our dog like that because it is easy for us to feel as though it reflects on us. Being cautious is a smart thing, but being judgmental is not always fair.
Please speak to the authorities about your neighbor's dog. Again, just to get it on record.
I am an owner of a Rott myself. I take care of my dog, I train it to be respectful and to know his place. He is not overly aggressive or territorial. That said, EVERY dog still has to be watched. There are always cases of dogs who are the most gentle dog in the world, but the right circumstances has led to something terrible. You are right, it takes that one kid who thinks it is okay to hop the fence to retrieve a ball to change everything. We watch our dog carefully, especially when he is out running around (usually laying around) in our yard. You just never know what will happen. We don't think that he would do anything if something like that were to happen, but what do we REALLY know? We don't, and we act responsibly about it just as we are supposed to.
It is the OWNER of the dog that needs to take responsibility for their animal. The dogs get bad reputations because the owner is negligent. Not EVERY Rott or Pit Bull or whatever is aggressive and territorial. Some are, some aren't.
Like I said, my dog is a gentle giant. We have a 7-year old. When I play rough with Cooper (my dog), he plays rough with me. However, when my son plays with him, Cooper is VERY delicate and won't even begin to start playing rough like he does with me. Heck, our kid climbs all over him, and he just lays there with a look on his face like "how humiliating". We are very fortunate to have a dog with such a demeanor. If you care enough to do a seach, I have mentioned a few other caes of how good our dog is.
I am not in "denial" or being "naive". You can ask a few dozen people in this forum who have been to my house as they have met my dog, he's a big baby.
Of course, I could list a thousand people who have met my dog and it wouldn't make a difference because again, we always watch him VERY carefully just in case that ONE time should occur. That is every responsible dog owner's obligation.
It sounds like the Rott in your case was not trained well nor is it cared for properly. It is dogs/owners like that which gives others a very bad name. You may want to talk to the authorities and just get it on record that your neighbor's dog is acting in a manner that concerns you. From the sounds of it, they need to look into it. It is too bad you have to live like that.
For the record, you are more then welcome to drop by my place with your daughter to meet my dog. He loves kids...with gravy. Just kidding. He does like kids and people. He happy to see a visitor in our home and he usually just sniffs them for a moment to check them out and then when he realizes they are not hiding a Milk-Bone somewhere in their pocket, he goes back and lays down. He's pretty lazy.

I know it is an awkward invitation and probably nothing you are interested in, but in all seriousness, the offer is open. We can talk shop, too.

Really, though...it is such a shame that bad dog owners give good dog owners a very bad name and because we are so very happy with our dog as part of our family, it definitely hits a nerve when people judge our dog like that because it is easy for us to feel as though it reflects on us. Being cautious is a smart thing, but being judgmental is not always fair.
Please speak to the authorities about your neighbor's dog. Again, just to get it on record.
Whew Jason I thought you were gonna come in here and warn us for going off topic and lock the thread.
Glad too see you're another responsible pet owner. Maybe we should start a new topic?
Again sorry for threadjacking.
Glad too see you're another responsible pet owner. Maybe we should start a new topic? Again sorry for threadjacking.
James and I have the mentality that if our dogs attack someone/something it is our own fault. Our dogs learn from us.
It is true...look at the recent pittbull attacks, see what type of environment they were raised in. You would be surprised by the accounts that ASPCA have made against Pitts and other Bully breeds as well as Rotts. Many were raised in captivity, fed gunpowder, raised to fight or be aggressive animals. It's not the dog's fault. These are animals that turn to us to bring them up right. RESPONSIBLE ownership is they key.
When I was younger we adopted a Golden Retriever from the Humane Society. Now these dogs are supposed to be nice, a family dog. Well...turns out that this dog wasn't. They told us he needed a little extra TLC because his previous owners neglected him. But this animal was dangerous. You could not go near his food dish...you couldn't go near his face. By looking at him he was a sweet looking dog. But I would rather stick my hand in my Pitts bowl than his.
Mike, PM us or email us and let us know if you ever go out to Telegraph, maybe you can bring your baby up there. We have Tank in his harness to help people around us feel more at ease. But he always loves meeting new people and dogs. He is a little more frisky with female dogs.
It is true...look at the recent pittbull attacks, see what type of environment they were raised in. You would be surprised by the accounts that ASPCA have made against Pitts and other Bully breeds as well as Rotts. Many were raised in captivity, fed gunpowder, raised to fight or be aggressive animals. It's not the dog's fault. These are animals that turn to us to bring them up right. RESPONSIBLE ownership is they key.
When I was younger we adopted a Golden Retriever from the Humane Society. Now these dogs are supposed to be nice, a family dog. Well...turns out that this dog wasn't. They told us he needed a little extra TLC because his previous owners neglected him. But this animal was dangerous. You could not go near his food dish...you couldn't go near his face. By looking at him he was a sweet looking dog. But I would rather stick my hand in my Pitts bowl than his.
Mike, PM us or email us and let us know if you ever go out to Telegraph, maybe you can bring your baby up there. We have Tank in his harness to help people around us feel more at ease. But he always loves meeting new people and dogs. He is a little more frisky with female dogs.
Originally posted by Timberwolf
Why would they feed them gunpowder? Never heard of that before. I get this mental picture of something from the coyote/roadrunner cartoons
Why would they feed them gunpowder? Never heard of that before. I get this mental picture of something from the coyote/roadrunner cartoons
Originally posted by JasonD
There is an urban ledgend that feeding dogs gunpowder makes them mean and crazy. It gives them ulcers, that is about it.
There is an urban ledgend that feeding dogs gunpowder makes them mean and crazy. It gives them ulcers, that is about it.


