Very simply, higher octane fuels SLOW DOWN the burn rate. What this does is provide a more controlled burn of the air fuel mixture in the combustion chamber.

As far as slowing you down, I find that claim hard to believe. I would be more inclined to believe it is just a waste of an extra .20 per gallon if your engine does not require the extra octane.

HInk

 

Hink!

Do you have a local dist??

Mark

 

 

yeah, I do have an airplane it's one of those fold-up Cessna's you carry around in a suitcase. Think they'll go for that one???

 

thanks for the info everyone. I went to Motown Muscle's web-site and printed out the list of gas stations they had there. I'll also check out that install univ. site for an education on detonation. (thanks sparky)

 

Mark, I believe you can get it from a local paint store, such as Sherwin Williams.

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Best ET: (All bolt ons) 11.496@116.42 (1.52)

Current best after Head & cam & nitrous:
10.88@124 (1.60)

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Hey Harold,

I know you can get Xylene and Touline from paint stores but I'd like to find a dist for the stuff Hink is talking about!!

Mark

 

Sparky, look up STEVENS DISTRIBUTING in commerce michigan. He use to carry the stuff hinks onto...
...this is also the same guy that runs the gas pumps at milan.

 

Thanks Jeff!

Mark

 

http://www.torcoracefuels.com/michigan_distributors.htm
Here's your Michigan distributors for torco race fuels and concentrates.
Skip

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Michigan Skip's Flamed 95
95Z28, K&N TPIS 150hp NOS & 27mpg!
MSD 6AL, Window switch,Ford SVO 24# injectors,
2.73's (3.42's to come) Edelbrock headers, Flowmaster exhaust
BMR SFC,LCA,STB

 

Spark... Stevens doesn't sell the Torco additive anymore, but he does sell Sunoco GT100,

The guy I bought my Torco from SHOULD be at Stanton next weekend (NMCA/NSCA). I tried to find his card but no-go.

Check Skip's link previous to this post. SORRY!


You'll want the ACCELERATOR Unleaded. That WIZARD sounds good, too... maybe I'll pick me up a can of that to add to the ACCELERATOR.

HInk



[This message has been edited by Redbird (edited August 30, 2002).]

 

Last year at M6 I had just installed the Ed Wright chip after the Lingenfelter motor from the winter before. When I got to the track and made about 3 runs I ran a best of 12.96. Then ran several 13.0 et at 109 to 110mph This was with some spark knock. I added a can of nos race additive and still had a little spark knock. I added a second can and et droped to 13.2 to 13.3. The only other changes that were made were to tire pressure to help traction which it did. 1.85 60ft. I have to think that with to much additive it lets the ignition system give you to much advance. But that is a tuning problem. The point I am trying to make is I beleive Dave D is right when he says it can hurt if car is not tuned for it. Not damage but hurt performance.
I am going to be run NOS this year so I am taking some timing out. I have never used NOS kit before. But I will be running a additive because of the NOS system. Guys, Hawk, Redbird what do you guys think? I don't want to damage the engine from spark knock or running to lean.
The NOS will be a wet kit. And I have the SuperRam. I have heard that you should not run a wet kit with the Super Ram . What do you guys think? I would rather blow the lid on the SuperRam than the engine if it came to that. I can change the system from wet to dry for about $100.00 dollars. Give me your advice.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited August 30, 2002).]

 

Chris,Are you thnking maybe the additive slowed you down? I ran last night and my times were slower by .3-.4 from the last time I ran.(on the N2O) I have been trying to dial in my shift points and ignition timing so maybe that messed me up. I get as much as 12* retard on the spray and don't know why, even with a mixture of 1/2 can torco Accelerator to 15 gal Amoco 93 which should hav bumped the octane to about 96-97. None off the juice. I did notice I got slower as the night went on too. I have been wondering though WHY worry about knock in an LT1/LT4 or any EFI motor? What was the reasoning behind the knock circuitry anyway? Did we consider that when we ran carbed cars? I didn't. Just set the timing at 36* by 3000rpm and run! I'm thinking I might just disable the knock retard (set max retard to 0) and run the timing like I think it should be.(-2* each 50hp for N2O)
What's your take on this? Mine is that the reasons for detonation is too much timing and low octane. Balance these out and you should be fine right? As far as the N2O goes I like my dry kit. That's all aihave done to the car as far as motor everything else is bone stock. I run 14.40-14.50 off juice and my best a few weeks ago was 13.55 on a 75 shot.
Skip

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Michigan Skip's Flamed 95
95Z28, K&N TPIS 150hp NOS & 27mpg!
MSD 6AL, Window switch,Ford SVO 24# injectors,
2.73's (3.42's to come) Edelbrock headers, Flowmaster exhaust
BMR SFC,LCA,STB

 

Yes I was thinking my timing was advanced a little to much. In turn the knock sensor was retarding the timing. When I added the NOS additive it let the timing advance too far which in turn slowed the car down. That is what I am thinking. The problem with removing the knock sensors is you could end up burning a piston. In the old days with carbs you had leaded gas. That is why you didn't need the knock sensors.
I would think your shift points would be around 6000 RPMs. Your computer rev limitor is set at 6000RPMs unless you have changed it.

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87 IROC L98 700R4 A few mods. Best et 12.96 at 110 mph
All motor No NOS or Supercharger.
96 WS6 FORMULA Best et 13.5 at 105 mph

[This message has been edited by Chris Ja (edited August 31, 2002).]

 

Three years ago I ran a 79 Z w/350/350TH Bowtie heads Big Crane cam 3000 stall and 4.56 w/spool and a re-worked 3310 Holley.MSD distributor and wires. No nitrous though. I didn't even think about detonation. It ran on 93 UNLEADED. It ran low 12's consistantly. Timing was 36* total by 3000rpms. I don't think my 95 would ever see 6000 the way it is now. It runs out of steam about 5600 (feels like it quit pulling). It's bone stock with the exception of an air foil and NGK plugs. Of course the 2.73's don't help any. Tell me what makes the LT1 so different from my old engines as far as knock goes. Not trying to be a wise guy, you are tho only one who ever took the time to answer my question!!!!!
Have a good Holiday bud.

Skip

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Michigan Skip's Flamed 95
95Z28, K&N TPIS 150hp NOS & 27mpg!
MSD 6AL, Window switch,Ford SVO 24# injectors,
2.73's (3.42's to come) Edelbrock headers, Flowmaster exhaust
BMR SFC,LCA,STB