Why the change in PCV's location on LT1's
You calling me a liar? What an idiot. If you don't believe me, too damn bad - 8 years on these forums, and your the first person I've had to say that to. I suspect someone will "report" this thread, but at this point, I could care less.
Unbelievable that people can't accept a small piece of data that appears to contradict their preconceived opinions.
And, one more time.... what does the PVC issue on the LS1's have to do with an LT1.... or am I suddenly on the wrong forum?
Unbelievable that people can't accept a small piece of data that appears to contradict their preconceived opinions.
And, one more time.... what does the PVC issue on the LS1's have to do with an LT1.... or am I suddenly on the wrong forum?
You cant take 2 minutes of your time and snap a pic of the inside of you intake manifold? Your car would be the 1st that I have seen with a bone dry intake manifold, and I don't see how that is possible with a motor setup for a 300+ shot like yours is. And report this thread for what? Your the only one doing the name calling.
The amount of WOT runs, or using the car exclusively for racing maybe a major consideration on the issue of oil being pushed up the PCV system fresh air tube and ingested into the intake.
My new stroker engine had that problem and I do a lot of bracket racing. For example; I bracket race almost every weekend. I make two to three timing passes and if I’m lucky, I may go as-may-as five or more rounds in the eliminations. So, I can have as-may-as eight or more WOT passes on my engine in one day!
Conversely, people who go to the track “occasionally” to test-n-tune and maybe do two or three runs “are not” placing anyway near the stress and usage on their engine that I am.
Additionally, I believe at WOT the PCV vacuum is “greatly reduced.” Therefore crankcase ventilation with the OEM PCV system is minimal and crankcase pressure will increase. And, that is the reason race engines typically have crankcase breathers, or another system to ventilate the crankcase. However, I don’t see race engines using an OEM type PCV system to ventilate the crankcase!
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My new stroker engine had that problem and I do a lot of bracket racing. For example; I bracket race almost every weekend. I make two to three timing passes and if I’m lucky, I may go as-may-as five or more rounds in the eliminations. So, I can have as-may-as eight or more WOT passes on my engine in one day!
Conversely, people who go to the track “occasionally” to test-n-tune and maybe do two or three runs “are not” placing anyway near the stress and usage on their engine that I am.
Additionally, I believe at WOT the PCV vacuum is “greatly reduced.” Therefore crankcase ventilation with the OEM PCV system is minimal and crankcase pressure will increase. And, that is the reason race engines typically have crankcase breathers, or another system to ventilate the crankcase. However, I don’t see race engines using an OEM type PCV system to ventilate the crankcase!
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Last edited by The Engineer; Apr 19, 2007 at 10:34 AM.
In regards to the LSx engines in my question. I am wondeirng what the difference is on there PCV valve? WHat did the engineers find within the PCV valve to help reduce oil consumption. FWIW.
The new Gen III PCV valve that was released recently has a small hole in it to reduce on consumption.
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...&highlight=PCV
http://www.ls1tech.com/forums/showth...&highlight=PCV
I wasnt being sarcastic. Why did you bold that, it was a statement of saying how well your car runs. I dont come on here often, and dont appreciate being titled as something I am not. No matter how much you are on here, your level of experience etc is irrelevant. I did not come across as a sarcastic individual.
In regards to the LSx engines in my question. I am wondeirng what the difference is on there PCV valve? WHat did the engineers find within the PCV valve to help reduce oil consumption. FWIW.
In regards to the LSx engines in my question. I am wondeirng what the difference is on there PCV valve? WHat did the engineers find within the PCV valve to help reduce oil consumption. FWIW.
Okay, I am no English major or a Keyboard Commando trying to **** off people.
It was a statement of how well his engine runs, and we can learn from his expertise/build up to better our engines.
I learned from just the low tension rings, as it is not good for the street. My first engine in over thirty years where I listened to the builder, instead of what I knew was right, just to gain a couple extra HP.
NE ways, not sarcasm.
It was a statement of how well his engine runs, and we can learn from his expertise/build up to better our engines.
I learned from just the low tension rings, as it is not good for the street. My first engine in over thirty years where I listened to the builder, instead of what I knew was right, just to gain a couple extra HP.
NE ways, not sarcasm.
Actually the engineers for the LS1 engines from 1997 to '02 found a way for the PCV system to consume even more oil than its predecessor. Some LS1 engines had horrible consumption problems due to what some report is a bad placement of the PCV valve which is located in the valve cover. The fix is to get a LS6 oil valley cover which then places the PCV valve in the oil valley.
Actually the engineers for the LS1 engines from 1997 to '02 found a way for the PCV system to consume even more oil than its predecessor. Some LS1 engines had horrible consumption problems due to what some report is a bad placement of the PCV valve which is located in the valve cover. The fix is to get a LS6 oil valley cover which then places the PCV valve in the oil valley.
2 breathers, a catch can inline with the pcv valve and a husky water seperator after the catch can to make sure the catch can catches everything. so far the air/water seperator is still bone dry so I'll probably take that off and just run the catch can.
That helps with the pcv valve, but still doesnt stop oil from getting in the intake, and there is still the fresh air hose that lets oil get in the intake. The way I have my car setup shouldn't let ANY oil in the intake, atleast I hope not.
2 breathers, a catch can inline with the pcv valve and a husky water seperator after the catch can to make sure the catch can catches everything. so far the air/water seperator is still bone dry so I'll probably take that off and just run the catch can.
2 breathers, a catch can inline with the pcv valve and a husky water seperator after the catch can to make sure the catch can catches everything. so far the air/water seperator is still bone dry so I'll probably take that off and just run the catch can.
In regards to the LSx engines in my question. I am wondeirng what the difference is on there PCV valve? WHat did the engineers find within the PCV valve to help reduce oil consumption.
That helps with the pcv valve, but still doesnt stop oil from getting in the intake, and there is still the fresh air hose that lets oil get in the intake. The way I have my car setup shouldn't let ANY oil in the intake, atleast I hope not.
2 breathers, a catch can inline with the pcv valve and a husky water seperator after the catch can to make sure the catch can catches everything. so far the air/water seperator is still bone dry so I'll probably take that off and just run the catch can.
2 breathers, a catch can inline with the pcv valve and a husky water seperator after the catch can to make sure the catch can catches everything. so far the air/water seperator is still bone dry so I'll probably take that off and just run the catch can.
Um not really. There is no restriction in the lines so it sucks in just as much air if there wasn't a catch can.
Here is a good write up on catch can and pressure drops throughout the PCV line with one installed.
http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/PCV...oval%20101.pdf
http://www.conceptualpolymer.com/PCV...oval%20101.pdf
And I highly doubt they lowered the flow that amount since there is no restriction. I can blow through them like it is just a 3/8" hose.



