Wheel Bearing's.....WTF??????????
Originally posted by DR.ZED
170,000 miles (271,000 kms) and haven't touched a wheel bearing front or rear.
170,000 miles (271,000 kms) and haven't touched a wheel bearing front or rear.
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ok , so today i went to tires plus to get this checked out:
I had the two top tech's look at it(not the morons who just change tires), I also took them both for a ride in it, and we pulled off both the back wheels. Both of them said that they had seen alot of camaro's with these problems(early wheel bearing failure). Anywayz, they both said that it sounded exactly 100% like a bad wheel bearing, BUT they've never seen a wheel bearing go out without leaking grease and oil onto the inside of the rim, and my car is not leaking anything at all. So WTF is going on here?
They said its a possibility thats it would be the gears or rearend related? What do you guys think? I have proper level of fluid and about a month ago I flushed it and put in the GM lim. slip add. So what could be the problem here? I dont think its my gears, they are factory, with low miles.
Any ideas would be appreciated?
I really do not want to pull the axles out just to CHECK to see if its the bearings........
I had the two top tech's look at it(not the morons who just change tires), I also took them both for a ride in it, and we pulled off both the back wheels. Both of them said that they had seen alot of camaro's with these problems(early wheel bearing failure). Anywayz, they both said that it sounded exactly 100% like a bad wheel bearing, BUT they've never seen a wheel bearing go out without leaking grease and oil onto the inside of the rim, and my car is not leaking anything at all. So WTF is going on here?
They said its a possibility thats it would be the gears or rearend related? What do you guys think? I have proper level of fluid and about a month ago I flushed it and put in the GM lim. slip add. So what could be the problem here? I dont think its my gears, they are factory, with low miles.
Any ideas would be appreciated?
I really do not want to pull the axles out just to CHECK to see if its the bearings........
Pulling the axles is easy. Take the wheels and diff cover off. Unthread the one bolt that holds in the pin that goes through the ring gear carrier. Pull the two c-clips and slide the axles out.
My left rear bearing was growling at 82k miles, pulled the axle out and the shaft was scored bad. Ordered a new replacement part (called a 12-bolt) and that fixed it. =)
About a year after I bought my 12-bolt, found out I could have gotten an offset bearing. Oh well, I've still got the ol' 10-bolt sitting in the garage, waiting for the restoration in 30 years!
My left rear bearing was growling at 82k miles, pulled the axle out and the shaft was scored bad. Ordered a new replacement part (called a 12-bolt) and that fixed it. =)
About a year after I bought my 12-bolt, found out I could have gotten an offset bearing. Oh well, I've still got the ol' 10-bolt sitting in the garage, waiting for the restoration in 30 years!
I have a similar problem and I started the thread linked below. Read my original post and tell me if my problem sounds similar to yours.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=152839
I'm VERY curious because I'm going to pull the rear in about 3 months and either rebuild it or cough up the $$$ for a Strange 12-bolt.
http://web.camaross.com/forums/showt...hreadid=152839
I'm VERY curious because I'm going to pull the rear in about 3 months and either rebuild it or cough up the $$$ for a Strange 12-bolt.
Hey Blue, the only whining I hear is you. If you want reliable, buy a Corolla. If it is a wheel bearing, big deal - fix it. It's just a car, and it needs a repair. It's not the end of the world.
Just why your "expert" techs would think that a bad wheel bearing must also cause a leak I don't know. The two are not related, unless the bearing has destroyed itself and the axle play knocks the seal out. If the wear is that bad though a kindergarten graduate could diagnose it.
These cars have Auburn style limited slip units, which tend to make metal particles as they wear normally. That means a differential oil change every year to eliminate the particles and clean the magnet. You have been changing the diff oil yearly, or at least every other year right? No? Too bad.
College eh? Does that explain the "WTF" and ****?
Just why your "expert" techs would think that a bad wheel bearing must also cause a leak I don't know. The two are not related, unless the bearing has destroyed itself and the axle play knocks the seal out. If the wear is that bad though a kindergarten graduate could diagnose it.
These cars have Auburn style limited slip units, which tend to make metal particles as they wear normally. That means a differential oil change every year to eliminate the particles and clean the magnet. You have been changing the diff oil yearly, or at least every other year right? No? Too bad.
College eh? Does that explain the "WTF" and ****?
No, mine was not leaking. If it is making noise, there's something wrong, keep driving it and there will be lube dripping out.
Best bet is to trade it in on a coffee-canned Honda Civic. A Camaro is going to nickle and dime you to death.
Best bet is to trade it in on a coffee-canned Honda Civic. A Camaro is going to nickle and dime you to death.
im at 165,000 miles and the fronts are still fine... along with the front struts.. but the rear is a different story... my car has broke "10" 10-bolts, shearing the teeth right of the pinion.. u might want to check the axles to see if they are pitted.. depending on what ABS system you have the OEM axles vary in price... i got one for my car at a local dealer for i think $119.00, and that is for the 4 channel abs.. you can also get space saver bearings if the axle is starting to pit, the space savers just move the friction point inwards a little (i think).... rear bearings are cheap $10 - $20 for each.. if you plan on doing this your self you might want to rent, buy, borrow a SLIDE HAMMER... makes it so much easyer to take out the bearings..
thanks for the advice guys
as for vader, if you dont have anything constructive or benefical, then shut the heII up. Unlike you, who is probably some rich momma's boy, I have to pay for every dime on my car, I'am 18 and attend OSU(which cost a ****load as well), and pay for this crap, do you have an idea how much insurance is for a z28 when you 19yrs old. So kiss my A$$. Furthermore, I've only had the car for 18,000 mi and have already changed the rear fluid twice. 2nd, usually the only reason for a bearing to go, is if the seal is gone and its not lubricated, most bearings leak if they are going out, that is why I asked, 3rd of all, i described the noise and it is NOT gear noise. Its what this other guy said, "sounds just like tire noise, except louder." Thanks for everyone else's help though, too bad vader's a ****.
Guess I'am just going to pull it apart and see what everything looks like.
as for vader, if you dont have anything constructive or benefical, then shut the heII up. Unlike you, who is probably some rich momma's boy, I have to pay for every dime on my car, I'am 18 and attend OSU(which cost a ****load as well), and pay for this crap, do you have an idea how much insurance is for a z28 when you 19yrs old. So kiss my A$$. Furthermore, I've only had the car for 18,000 mi and have already changed the rear fluid twice. 2nd, usually the only reason for a bearing to go, is if the seal is gone and its not lubricated, most bearings leak if they are going out, that is why I asked, 3rd of all, i described the noise and it is NOT gear noise. Its what this other guy said, "sounds just like tire noise, except louder." Thanks for everyone else's help though, too bad vader's a ****.
Guess I'am just going to pull it apart and see what everything looks like.
Originally posted by Blue96z28
Guess I'am just going to pull it apart and see what everything looks like.
Guess I'am just going to pull it apart and see what everything looks like.
You can't predict when things will break or perfectly compare one car's service record to another.
I tend to agree with Vader and if you don't have the money to spend on the car, get something else. Your attitude is very poor.
Thank-you Shoebox.
Blue I thought I was being helpful and constructive. Bearings do not leak, seals do. And bearing will wear out and not necessarily cause the adjacent seal to leak. Don't confuse one with the other.
No I am not some rich Momma's boy. In fact my car is two years older than yours, and at last count I am nearly 30 years older than you, so it seems you have the silver spoon, not me. And as I am not rich I learned to repair all of my cars myself, and make a decent living doing it for others.
I only asked about college to help me understand your ability to express yourself.
Blue I thought I was being helpful and constructive. Bearings do not leak, seals do. And bearing will wear out and not necessarily cause the adjacent seal to leak. Don't confuse one with the other.
No I am not some rich Momma's boy. In fact my car is two years older than yours, and at last count I am nearly 30 years older than you, so it seems you have the silver spoon, not me. And as I am not rich I learned to repair all of my cars myself, and make a decent living doing it for others.
I only asked about college to help me understand your ability to express yourself.
Originally posted by DarkHorse
Off topic but curious:
So, Are you 18 or 19?
Off topic but curious:
So, Are you 18 or 19?
lolYeah I know I cry alot here, but thats what about 75% of the posts are. Everyday I see one that say, "OH MY GOD I'AM GOING TO SET MY CAR ON FIRE." So I'am sorry that I make you all listen to it, but I'am just trying to get advice, and maybe save a little money on repairs. I was tring to compare, mainly just looking for a quote on how much it might be, or if when the bearing went out it ruied anything in the rearend? Just looking for that kind of advice. But I'am sure at least someone will agree with me that vader was being a ****.
But I'll tare into it and then get back to you guys.......
I also agree with Vader, these cars break often (just look at the posts) and just cause you've been keeping up on the recent maintanence doens't mean that previous owners have.
I doesn't have to leak to be a wheel bearing and the noise should be readly identifiable by a competent mechanic.
I can understand your frustration but calling folks, who are trying to provide advice, names is not going to help your cause.
I doesn't have to leak to be a wheel bearing and the noise should be readly identifiable by a competent mechanic.
I can understand your frustration but calling folks, who are trying to provide advice, names is not going to help your cause.


