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What would cause my car to never go above 6375 rpm?

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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:45 PM
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What would cause my car to never go above 6375 rpm?

I am working on fixing a high rpm miss, but i found something very interesting when I was logging some WOT passes. Keep in mind my rev limiter is set at 6950 rpm. Every time i accelerate from a stop, it pulls right up to exactly 6375 rpm, then starts missing like its hitting the rev limiter. 6375 is flat out as high as it will go. Whats up with that? I can't figure it out....If the rev limiter is set at 6950, it should pull right up to the rev limiter just fine. It doesn't seem like an ignition issue to me, b/c its just weird that it stops pulling at 6375 EVERY time. Sounds like something in the programming is preventing me from going over 6375. My log goes like this:
RPM:
6000
6055
6185
6245
6300
6375
6375
6250
6200 <---still WOT, even though revs are falling...

Every time it just stops pulling at 6375 exactly. Anyone have any ideas?

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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:50 PM
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The stock PCM uses an 8-bit data field for RPM. Each "number" represents 25rpm, so the max RPM that will fit in the data field is 255 X 25 = 6,375. It will support RPM higher than that, it just can't indicate it on a scanner.
Old Jun 9, 2003 | 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by Injuneer
The stock PCM uses an 8-bit data field for RPM. Each "number" represents 25rpm, so the max RPM that will fit in the data field is 255 X 25 = 6,375. It will support RPM higher than that, it just can't indicate it on a scanner.
So its actually going above 6375 rpm, it just won't show it on a scanner. Damn it, sounds like an ignition issue still
Old Jun 9, 2003 | 02:09 PM
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How did you adjust the lash on those Comp R's? Anything more than an 1/8 turn is too much. If you went near 1/2 turn...you just found your problem.
Old Jun 9, 2003 | 02:53 PM
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The new version of TTS DataMaster is supposto poll a different field in the pcm (a 16 bit value) so can read higher values (it's on their site as a beta product).


Sounds like you are having some other issue - it is probably higher than 6375 - that value in just an artifact of the pcm scaling method, as outlined above.


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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 03:09 PM
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How did you adjust the lash on those Comp R's? Anything more than an 1/8 turn is too much. If you went near 1/2 turn...you just found your problem.
Would that lash adjustment apply for Hotcam kit roller rockers as well? I'm having a miss starting around 5500 that I am trying to figure out as well, I think I may have them adjusted too tight. I thought I was supposed to go 1/4 - 1/2 turn past zero lash?

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Old Jun 9, 2003 | 04:48 PM
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Would that lash adjustment apply for Hotcam kit roller rockers as well? I'm having a miss starting around 5500 that I am trying to figure out as well, I think I may have them adjusted too tight. I thought I was supposed to go 1/4 - 1/2 turn past zero lash?

Thanks.
The Comp R's come with a bit of pre-load. All they need is between a 1/16th - 1/8th of preload. I know from experience that if they're too tight, you'll rev to a point, and then it will feel like you've hit a wall.

I have mine a tad bit less than an 1/8th turn. Now revs freely...
Old Jun 9, 2003 | 06:47 PM
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Originally posted by 4drLT4
The Comp R's come with a bit of pre-load. All they need is between a 1/16th - 1/8th of preload. I know from experience that if they're too tight, you'll rev to a point, and then it will feel like you've hit a wall.

I have mine a tad bit less than an 1/8th turn. Now revs freely...
Cool, I'll re-lash them then. I have them at 1/2 turn past zero lash. Thanks
Old Jun 9, 2003 | 06:55 PM
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rpm 16 is the value you want to look at in datamaster.
Old Jun 19, 2003 | 09:29 PM
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Originally posted by 4drLT4
The Comp R's come with a bit of pre-load. All they need is between a 1/16th - 1/8th of preload. I know from experience that if they're too tight, you'll rev to a point, and then it will feel like you've hit a wall.

I have mine a tad bit less than an 1/8th turn. Now revs freely...
Thanks for the info bro, thats exactly what it was I gave it about 1/16-1/8 turn past 0 lash, and it now revs to 7000 no problem. I originally had it at 1/2 turn past 0 lash, which was obviously way too tight.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 08:14 AM
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Originally posted by allmotorta
Thanks for the info bro, thats exactly what it was I gave it about 1/16-1/8 turn past 0 lash, and it now revs to 7000 no problem. I originally had it at 1/2 turn past 0 lash, which was obviously way too tight.
I heard a roumor that they make the Comp R' lifters again. Is it true? If true, where can you get them?
Thanks guys!
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:43 AM
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Combination Motorsports carries them.

http://www.cmotorsports.com

Great guys, great prices, great service. Flat out, GREAT!
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 11:48 AM
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i do not understand how it could cause that problem, not saying anybody is wrong, just don't understand
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 12:38 PM
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ltlhomer,
Thanks for the info! I heard good things about those guys, too.
Old Jun 20, 2003 | 02:31 PM
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Originally posted by allmotorta
Thanks for the info bro, thats exactly what it was I gave it about 1/16-1/8 turn past 0 lash, and it now revs to 7000 no problem. I originally had it at 1/2 turn past 0 lash, which was obviously way too tight.
Glad I could help...enjoy!!
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