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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 10:35 PM
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What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

I have a 388 and my windage tray wouldnt clear even with ARP 400 Kit w/tray so I basically didn't use it. I have no problems with oil pressure and oil is doing fine. 70 psi cold and 40 hot 20 idle. Not really sure what my options would be for trays and my pan is a 7qt pan, HV Melling pump running Castrol Syntec 10w30. I don't have any problems. Anyone else had probs. or something? I have lifter noise but that's due to a well needed rocker adjustment.
Old Jun 28, 2006 | 10:50 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

3x post.

http://web.camaross.com/forums/showthread.php?t=458503

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Old Jun 28, 2006 | 11:07 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

the site was lagging and I pressed the post button too many times I guess. Sorry. Fixed!
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 08:43 AM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

The problem with no tray or oil control baffeling is that under rpm the crank will develop a "rope" of oil that hinders the cranks normal movement sucking a few HP to move this rope around. It can also cause a slight off balance issue at even higher rpms.

Also G forces during driving will slosh the oil out of the pan up into the crank.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:08 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

Just wondering because I haven't had any problems.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 05:36 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

The longer Milodon studs worked for me. I went through the pain-in-the-*** of fitting a Diamond Stripper windage tray to splayed caps and customized the place where the dipstick pokes through, but the studs were no prob. My tray is about .100" from the rods and everything else.


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Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:09 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

If ya run a stock pan then it is mandatory. It helps keep the oil from climbing the back of the pan under acceleration. If it's a built motor then an after market pan and tray should be on it with the proper pickup.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 07:41 PM
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Well I'm using the 400 SBC stud kit from ARP but it was too short and rods hit it. What's the part numbers or links to those studs and that baffle??? I need to do something about it. Can't believe that it wouldn't clear the stock baffle, maybe my studs will work but with a diff baffle.
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:06 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

These are what I used from Summit. There are lots of other options, too. I shortened the ends of the studs near the shallow end of the pan.

MIL-32250 Tray
MIL-81150 Studs
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:18 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

wont that cause the oil to foam since now you have a stroker which means it will go deeper into the sitting oil causing foam and loos of oil pressure due to sucking up foam?
Old Jun 29, 2006 | 10:37 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

The crank on a 383 will be far from the oil in the sump of a stock pan.

The diamond stripper is what I have on mine as well. With the milodon stud kit.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 07:58 AM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

I used the Diamond Windage tray also and the Milodon studs.
For the record the Milodon studs are ARP studs anyhow.
Stock pan will need to be clearances a bit but nothing a hammer can't handle.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:13 AM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

I wont need to clear it. Running the ARP stud kit now for 400 SBC w/windage tray. The pan is 7qt pan and it is square on the bottom and the oil is far from the crank, the oil pressure is normal for me. Runs 70 PSI cold start up and 40 psi driving/20 psi idle. Syntec 10w30 and those are as advertised too by Melling HV Oil pump. And I have the Meloden pickup.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 08:21 AM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

My bad I forgot you said you're not running the stock pan.
My comments about the studs was just for anyone not familar with the Milodon studs.
Old Jun 30, 2006 | 09:02 PM
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Re: What are the disadvantages of not running a Windage Tray?

So all i have to get is the windage tray and bolt it up huh?



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