I was looking on VRE and im thinking about getting this engine for my 94 Z28. The only problem is, with this setup, what kind of cam should I get for this? Anything I should add to this engine? What about the options?

Advice please...Check below at the specs

Thanks,
Jack


Description:
This package is a step up from our Economy series. These packages are ideal for stree/strip applications that will be both a stout street performer as well a fierce competitor at the drag strip.
Specs:
Eagle 4340 3.750" Crankshaft
Eagle 6.000" H-Beam Rods
SRP Forged Pistons
Perfect Circle Piston Rings
Clevite Rod Bearings
Clevite Main Bearings
Clevite Cam Bearings
ARP Main Studs
Fully Machine Block w/Deck Plates
Balance Rotating Assembly
Assemble Short Block


Options:
Fel-Pro Intake Gaskets $20.99
Tool Steel Piston Rings $200
Upgrade to Diamond pistons $250
Coating of piston skirts and tops $315
BBK 58mm Throttle Body $309.99
ATI Harmonic Balancer $379.99
ARP Harmonic Balancer Bolt $21.99
Upgrade to Compstar 6.000" Rods $100
Milodon 6qt Oil Pan w/Oil Pump $220

Price:
$3415 *No Core Block Required*

 

All depends what you want to do with it and how much you want to spend on the project.
Fill us in on the application and you'll probably get a pretty good sense of what kind of cam and add-ons you need.
VRE would ask you the same question if you called.

 

what do mean application?

 

I need to know what else I need to put on this engine to make it complete to run....

 

heads and intake for sure

 

Sure, but what do you want to optimize the motor for?
Daily Driver
Street Toy
Dedicated Drag Race
Hauling Cattle?

Do you have a goal in mind? How fast you want to go?
Maybe you want a supercharger motor or maybe you'd rather go N/A or N20.

That all plays into what heads, cam, valvetrain, and internal components you select.

I mean, you could buy that shortblock as they describe it, shove your stock
components back into it and call it done if you really wanted to.
It wouldn't have a whole lot of power up top and probably wouldn't be good
for anything but cruising around and saying "Hey. I have a 383!"

Do you see where I am going where this?


Of course, you could also just buy a complete motor (longblock) and call it done.
The generic builds are pretty much optimized for street toys.

 

Is there any websites like VRE, that already have a comeplete engine to buy?

 

My car is going to be a daily driver but street toy as well. I wanna be able have the power and speed if a damn Mustang decides to roll up next to me. I want it between 400rwhp to 500rwhp. I was thinking about putting a Pro Charger down the road. I really need to know if I bought this engine, what else do I need to put on the engine so I can get my money straightened out for the parts.....

Thanks,
Jack

 

First of all, please do some searches on the forum for cams and 383 builds, and I am sure you will find more information then you can read in a year.

Application: What are you planning on using it for? daily driving? dragstrip only? autocross? planning on supercharging/turbocharging? nitrous? What is your horsepower goal? What is your budget? All these questions are important because it allows the engine builder to understand exactly what parts he should put together for you.

It is a shortblock, so you are going to need to buy a valve train for it, (heads, cam), before it could be considered complete (longblock). Two excellent companies that do that are AI (http://www.advancedinduction.com/AiPolicies.html) and Lloyd Elliott (http://www.elliottsportworks.com/lt1.html).

What I would do is figure out what the most is I am willing to spend, and then tack on another $1000 for any extras you will inevitably need along the way. Then go price a short block and a set of heads. Once you figure out what you can spend you can talk to VRE about building you an engine.

 

Alright, I think I understand where you're at.
One of VRE, Golen, LPE or otherwise's crate motors sounds like what you want.
Nothing extreme, but certainly well-designed to last.

Getting 400rwhp should require too much effort, even a 220/230 cam with
ported stock heads in a 383 can get there with supporting mods.
500rwhp is going to require something a little more extreme. (and expensive)

Exactly.

 

Hell, you could get really close 400whp by just buying a set of LE2's (heads and cam) and putting that on your current motor. Obviously you need all the supporting mods (intake, headers, exhaust, injectors, tune), but that would run you probably $3000 for everything, and save you a lot of money over a full engine build. However, if you have the money for a full crate engine then go ahead and do what has been suggested already. If you are really planning on adding something like a supercharger or nitrous, I would encourage you to research 355 builds. They are somewhat more cost effective and would meet your goals perfectly. Keep in mind, once you start getting into the the area above 400whp, start thinking about your stock rear end which will probably shatter like the cheap piece of glass that it is. If you aren't planning on launching with slicks you should be ok. Otherwise budget aside $2000 for a 12 bolt or a 9 inch rear end.

 

after dueno's suggestion of the new 12 bolt, then you will need a new transmission and driveshaft to hold the power, and a new stall or clutch (depending if it is auto or manual) to put it to the ground. Then you will end up re-upgrading your supporting mods wherever you skimped out. The cycle never ends!!

 

Thanks everyone....I know I could probably get 400rwhp with my current engine, but one problem...It has 104K miles and not exactly been taken care of great. It sat for about 3 years. I started it every once in awhile. I got in a wreck and took awhile to get fixed. Right now its running good but could be better. Thats why Im looking to get another engine. Im even thinking about getting my engine I have now, and replacing the pistons, rods and bearings, but hell, if Im gonna spend that kindve money, I might as well get a fresh engine and work it up.

After I get the internal stuff done in my engine, Id like to put some bolt ons like headers, exhuast, etc...then get my rear-end done and tranny..After all that, Id like to get a Pro Charger on there.

But as I said, this will be a daily driver. Not every single day because I got a bike too. Saves me alot on gas, but i love my camaro and want get the best for my money.

Thanks again everyone,
Jack

 

...........Is it better to put a supercharger or turbo on 355 rather than a 383?

Jack

 

I suggest starting with the NA build you have planned... "400-500 rwhp" and at least get that in the car, then decide if you really need to go for a force inducted (turbo/supercharger) build down the road. One step at a time.