OK, im finally getting a set of much needed headers, the only question is which brand. I know full well SLPs reputation as one of the better shorty headers on the market, ease of install is probably better then most and they flow well for shorties, plus they have the SLP name going for them too. TTS are headers Ive seen on tbyrnemotorsports.com. The price between them is roughly a wash for me, a matter of 50 bucks when the price is already over 700 is not a factor too me. I dont know anyone that has run TTS headers, nor have I really heard of anyone on the forum that runs them. They claim to be much easier to install based on the way they are designed for the tight engine compartment on the LT1. They both come with ypipes, and are both coated. So really Im asking for any reviews on the TTS either first hand or just from what anyone might have heard. Not to be a dick, but Ive heard all the basic reviews before, so please dont recommend i get longtubes, its not gonna be a good fit on a stock cam and head motor. Ive got it narrowed to these two brands, so i dont need every brand recommended either. Since I dont want to take more then one crack at the install I would like to get the best set of headers on the market. The big thing i see is the fact the TTS headers have a 1/2" thick flange, thus elmiminating the need for gaskets, thats certainly a plus. Any first hand experiances with TTS headers, installing, performance, reliability would be greatly appreciated. Thanks in advance for anyone that can offer an educated opinion to that novel above.

 

I just put on a set of SLPs. Very happy with them. Make sure you buy the coated ones. I bought a set of used headers from a member who gave me an awesome deal!! I would buy a used set if I could find them before I would buy a new set.

 

I know you don't want suggestions of other brands, so i'll stick with the brands you mentioned. Have you considered a single cat conversion and using slp midlength headers? I think you should seriously consider it.

-brent

 

How long did it take you to put them on, if you did it yourself. Anything special that you removed to make the install easier. Also how were the performance gains.

 

I went with arp ss hex head bolts 3/8 x 1". The headers are easier then removing the stock manifolds. I also tack welded the bolts to the flange. The exhaust flange going down to the exhaust pipe. It makes it easy when tighting it back up to the Y pipe. You will have to remove a couple of plugs and the dip stick tube.

 

So did you not notice my post or are you ignoring me because i didn't follow your protocol?

I just wanted to make sure you were aware of the single cat conversion as an option for staying street legal (99% of shops wouldn't know the difference and if they did they probably wouldn't care and would pass you anyways).

If you already know about it and already have a specific reason for not considering it, then sorry for wasting yoru time and have fun with your shorties. If you want to know more about it as another option, just ask.

-brent

 

No wiseguy, I just was at the computer right when the first response came through, and actually I didnt notice it because it must have come through as i was responding to the first one. Its not that Im not grateful for any and all opinions, I have narrowed my choices down to those two, Im going to buy in the next 2-3 days, I dont have time to get a bunch of B.S. responses. Staying street legal is not a problem, plenty of longtubes are street legal. Also I already have a single cat so I have no need for a conversion. I dont want longtubes because its a stock motor as I stated before, no immediate plans for a cam, heads etc, so I dont want to risk loosing backpressure on an already great flowing exhaust even with stock manifolds. Of course when the spray is on it doesnt matter what size the headers are, but as long as its a stock motor the benifits are not going to be substantial enough to warrent the pain in the *** install of longtubes and possibly loose backpressure in the process. Again I dont mean to be an assh@le, but I have reasons for everything that I do. The plan down the road is a completly built motor install with longtubes. Before that will be a 12 bolt and most likely a new trans, but so far the stock ones doing fine at 145k. Please dont be petty and childish about how the way I went about asking for advice. If I cant contribute an intelligent or educated response to a post when people ask for it, I dont respond, and thats all i was asking for here. Right now I want the best set of shorties on the market and the choices are down to those two brands. Any feedback on either one is appreciated. And as a sidenote, I have considered every option and brand imaginable, SLP and TTS are the only two left standing.

 

Then get the SLP's, if you say you haven't really heard much about TTS there is probley a reason for that.

 

Thats a possibility, but every brand has to start somewhere. I doubt seriously Tbyrne is going to sell a loser product which is one reason why I am giving it a long look. Its certainly not a bargin brand like Pacesetter is, and at the price they want I am less concerned about the quality being poor then I would be if i got a set of coated $300 Pacesetters. But the things that I am intrigued about with the TTS are the fact they are a totally differant design the other headers and they dont use gaskets. Im just lookin for some real world feedback before I make my final decision.

 

Just curious, you keep saying shorties. The year of your car is 95 and that only had one cat. Therefore, the SLP headers you want are more or less considered mid's. SLP, MAC, BBK, Edelbrock, RKsport, AS&M; all of these make Mid length headers. You can get Mid length headers much cheaper than the 800+ that youre talking about, even with jet-hot coatings. The TTS headers you are looking at on Tbyrne are kinda misleading. They say 95-97 but its more like 96-97, with 95 cars that are dual cat that were from California. Those TTS headers are unnecessarily short and constricted for your car. However, if you really want to choose between those two, then go for the SLP's. Much less constricted design if you get the ones for your vehicle year.

 

You figured me out! I'm actually a 12 year old kid who has never even seen an LT1 in person and i wasn't trying to help you at all.

And I also hope you don't lose your precious backpressure. You're well on the way to making some serious hardcore power in the future with your planned "totally built motor".

can you please direct me to where i can buy some street legal longtubes?

While i'm at it i might as well also suggest you listen to eaglenight57 since he makes and excellent point that you don't even know what you have or what you need to buy (midlength slps, NOT shorties). Way to do your research azz. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you needed shorties when if only i would have checked your signature like eaglenight did i would have realized that you were the one wasting my time.

have a nice life.

-brent

 

I group anything thats not a longtube into the shorty catagory. The design is something that looked odd to me on the TTS, which actually is probably why I havent ordered either one yet, i wanted to hear more feedback on TTS. Also, whats in the picture isnt necessarly reflecting the exact set that would go on my 95, the SLP shorties for a 96 duel cat look almost the same as far as length goes, the only differance is the design. Yea, I am leaning more towards SLPs, but i still would like to at least find one person that has TTS before buy.

 

[QUOTE=94formulabz]You figured me out! I'm actually a 12 year old kid who has never even seen an LT1 in person and i wasn't trying to help you at all.
And I also hope you don't lose your precious backpressure. You're well on the way to making some serious hardcore power in the future with your planned "totally built motor".
can you please direct me to where i can buy some street legal longtubes?
While i'm at it i might as well also suggest you listen to eaglenight57 since he makes and excellent point that you don't even know what you have or what you need to buy (midlength slps, NOT shorties). Way to do your research azz. I gave you the benefit of the doubt that you needed shorties when if only i would have checked your signature like eaglenight did i would have realized that you were the one wasting my time.

OK jackass, your just a flaming ****** who gets hung up on some petty **** because I didnt take your goddamn advice. Yea I dont want to loose backpressure on a STOCK MOTOR, Im sorry I was smart enough to weigh in the fact that longtubes might not be as benificial on a stock motor as they would be on a built one. And to qoute eaglenight: "more or less considered mid's". If they are not longtubes, i consider them shorties, jesus what a bitch you are to quival and make a point over something so stupid. Also, if you get the longtubes with EGR and AIR hookups, well by god thats all you need to be STREET LEGAL. Since SLP only makes one set of headers for a 94-95 Camaro and doesnt designate them as shorties or midlengths, I call them shorties since they arnt LONGTUBES. There was a reason I asked for people that had first hand experience with either brand, so i could avoid dumbasses like you. Goddamn, grow the F#ck up. Thanks to all the other replies.

 

If you move the cat, AT ALL, you are no longer Street Legal, which then makes any and all Long Tubes Illegal. And those TTS are NOT what you want, they will not fit your car. They are for dual cat cars, and wont work. The Passenger side header on both 94-95 and 96-97 style headers is almost identical, its the driver side header that is very different. With the 96-97 style, its all squished up to fit the stupid cat that GM decided to put in the engine compartment.

 

That is exactly the kind of info i needed. Thanks for the tips, but You can run longtubes without moving the cat, takes some work but you can, also, TTS says they make headers for the single cats as well, because i was thinking the same thing you were when i saw the pics of them. Like i said im most likely gettin SLPs, i just cant believe no one has TTS.